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Senate GOP seethes at Trump impulsiveness

Top GOP officials and senators say White House chaos and impulsiveness are crippling efforts to expand the Republican Senate majority in 2018, unraveling long-laid plans and needlessly jeopardizing incumbents.

There's a widespread sense of exasperation with the president, interviews with nearly two dozen senior Republicans reveal, and deep frustration with an administration they believe doesn’t fully grasp what it will take to preserve the narrow majority or add to it. ...

Republican officials say they expected some turbulence as they learned to coexist with a president who is, at heart, a political newcomer who is relatively unfamiliar with congressional politics. But even so, the wild unpredictability of the Trump White House has led to considerable consternation and rattled a GOP firmament that views next year’s Senate election landscape as a golden opportunity to expand the majority.

“No committee likes instability, and it appears they’re creating instability,” said Rob Collins, who as NRSC executive director during the 2014 cycle helped to lead the successful GOP push to seize control of the upper chamber.
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Screw them! They let Trump happen. :violin:
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Addie wrote:Politico
Senate GOP seethes at Trump impulsiveness

Top GOP officials and senators say White House chaos and impulsiveness are crippling efforts to expand the Republican Senate majority in 2018, unraveling long-laid plans and needlessly jeopardizing incumbents.
:snippity: .
Wonder, oh wonder, it took them two years and an election to realize that they will inherit a crazy clown car as WH :?: The Republicans ought to have stream lined their selection process for POTUS candidates to include some political experience as the minimum requirement in the CV.

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CNN: Democrats' road to a House majority runs through 7 California seats:
For Democrats hoping to turn President Donald Trump's unpopularity into an opportunity to take control of the House next year, this Orange County community is ground zero.

Their target here -- Rep. Ed Royce -- is like several other established Republican incumbents in California who progressives hope can be toppled in a wave of anti-Trump backlash. In their bid to win the 24 seats necessary to take control of the House, Democrats are focusing on California -- and particularly a swath of seven Republican-held seats clustered in or near Orange County.

The reason those seats are being targeted: 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton bested Trump in all seven districts in the 2016 election. Clinton was the first Democrat since Franklin D. Roosevelt to carry Orange County, and her victory there reflected the rapid demographic changes in the increasingly young, diverse and educated region.

Royce hadn't planned a town hall meeting during the August recess -- so Indivisible, Planned Parenthood and other groups scheduled one without him. Democratic Rep. Linda Sanchez, who represents a nearby Southern California district, attended and fielded questions for hours instead.

Meanwhile, five Democrats who are running against Royce mingled with the crowd of hundreds.
Taitz's rep (and Russia apologist), Dana Rohrabacher, is also being targeted:
In addition to geography, the House Republicans whom Democrats are targeting have a key vote in common: They each supported the House's bill to repeal President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act and replace it with legislation crafted by GOP leadership and supported by Trump.

In Rohrabacher's district, Hans Keirstead, a pioneer in stem cell research who sold his business for more than $100 million in 2014 and later bought it back, has given Democrats a top recruit with a science and business background in a district where Republican registration outpaces Democrats.
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No democrat can win in California in a republican district. The loonies who self select as GOP are far right nuts committed to their one kind. Sorry about no caps. On my iPhone.

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Seventh Republican retirement signals House GOP’s massive Trump problem in 2018

Outraged by the behavior and radical right-wing agenda of Donald Trump and GOP congressional leadership, Democrats are laser-focused on winning back the House in 2018.

And that could spell huge trouble for Speaker Paul Ryan, who could end up struggling to maintain his majority.

There is no question Democrats have a massive advantage in voter enthusiasm over Republicans for the midterm, and a record-shattering edge in candidate recruitment. But many political experts are still skeptical that Democrats can win the House, due in part to how Republicans rigged and gerrymandered congressional districts.

Decision Desk HQ currently forecasts Democrats winning the popular vote for Congress by 8 percent, with Republicans retaining a majority of 23 seats — meaning there is a chance Republicans could control the presidency, House, and Senate without having won the popular vote for any of them.

But this forecast assumes longstanding GOP incumbents will defend their seats. In fact, several key House Republicans are announcing retirement, leaving open seats that are far more competitive than they would be otherwise.
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My representative, Dave Reichert, was said he will not run for re-election. My district (8th Congressional District) has been gerrymandered to make it very difficult for a Democrat to win, but it's possible.

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Here's another one.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/9 ... House-seat
Pennsylvania Rep. Charlie Dent, one of the more moderate Republicans left in the House and a frequent Trump critic, announced on Thursday evening that he would not seek an eighth term next year, saying the White House had “taken the fun out of dysfunction.” Dent, who first won his Lehigh Valley seat in 2004, had always won re-election with ease, and Democrats have never seriously targeted him. However, his departure gives Democrats a much better chance to flip this seat, which includes the cities Allentown and Bethlehem.
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With or without Trump, GOP insurgency plans for a civil war in 2018 midterms

The next Republican revolution began last week on a bright blue bus parked at a nighttime rally in Montgomery, Ala., days before a firebrand GOP candidate won the state’s Senate primary.

But unlike previous Republican revolutionaries, the hard-line figures who stepped out to cheers did not want to yank the party to the right on age-old issues such as taxes or spending. They wanted to gut it and leave its establishment smashed.

Fury infused these insurgents’ raw remarks as did a common theme: The Republican Party has failed its voters, and a national cleansing was needed in the coming year, regardless of whether President Trump was on board.

Longtime Republicans see a charged civil war on the horizon. ...

That populist rage in the base as Trump struggles to enact his priorities — which lifted former judge Roy Moore to victory on Tuesday against Trump’s ally, Sen. Luther Strange (R-Ala.) — now threatens to upend GOP incumbents in 2018 as the latest incarnation of Republican grievance takes hold.
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NPR: Bannon's 'War' With GOP Has Only Just Begun
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Oh, please. :pray:
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While I can't think of anything that would give me more pleasure than to see Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell get ended by the very BS they've been stoking for years, you
Edit: generic you, I mean
do realize this is going to create a Congress with even MORE rwnj than we now have. Which means Obamacare is done. It's not done NOW but it will be done in 2019.

Republican extremism has hurt this country. It has torn us apart, made enemies out of families and neighbors, and turned half of our voting public into brainless zombies bent on nothing but destroying anything that demonstrates decency and humanity. We need less of it, not more of it.
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We, the Republic, will not survive if we see only our enemies and act only against them. We cannot survive if we blame only racism and misogyny. We probably cannot survive if we the current Democratic Party as our savior.

We may survive if we elect Democrats to city councils, state legislatures, governorships, and national offices with a single strong Democratic economic
message. The campaign that Hillary mismanaged and the Rainbow message will kill us. The Rainbow message comes after we have won on an economic message.
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... -broockman

A massive new study reviews the evidence on whether campaigning works. The answer's bleak.
In general elections, campaigns’ attempts to win swing voters appear to not work at all.
Updated by Dylan Matthews@dylanmattdylan@vox.com Sep 28, 2017, 8:00am EDT


Persuading voters to change their minds about candidates is tougher than you think. Scott Olson/Getty Images

All the outreach activity by political campaigns, including door to door canvassing, phone banking, direct mail, and even advertising, has basically no effect on voters’ choice of candidate in general elections, according to a striking new academic study.

The new analysis covers 49 field experiments conducted in real US election campaigns, typically run with cooperation from the campaigns themselves.

Campaigns spend millions of dollars during general elections on canvassing; phone banking; advertising on TV, radio, and the internet; and other efforts designed to win over undecided voters and supporters of the opposing candidate. The new study’s authors, UC Berkeley political scientist Joshua Kalla and Stanford professor David Broockman, conclude that essentially no one targeted is persuaded.

This doesn’t mean that political campaigns never matter. Kalla and Broockman find that these activities can persuade voters in primary elections and during ballot-initiative campaigns. Campaigns can still effectively turn out voters whose minds are already made up about a candidate, and voters can and do change their opinions when prompted by politicians they already support (something a previous study of Broockman’s confirmed
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If this study were conducted in the 2016 campaign I do not think it means much. That was an abnormal campaign in every regard.
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The sad fact is that Hillary Clinton and her campaign actually DID have a very robust economic plan and message. I wish that more of her advertising dollars had been used to communicate that message. I don't believe her extremely narrow loss of actual voters and election had to do with a lack of sound economic ideas and policy, but the policy got lost in the "deplorable" messaging. I really wish her campaign HAD stuck to communicating the economic policy that was robust, sound, and I believe if her advertising had hammered on it she wouldn't have lost by 70,000 votes across three states, she probably would have won by a landslide. It wasn't a lack of policy, it was a lack of using her advertising dollars to communicate that policy. Ads about Trump's obvious unsuitability just failed to really communicate the real differences between them - which was that she had sound, rational, well thought out policy, and he had "only I can fix it", which for some reason her campaign decided not to focus on in their advertising. Instead, they spent millions stating something that should have been obvious to most of us, but wasn't important enough to 70,000 voters - which is Trump and anyone like him have no business even running for President of the US.
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Remember, just 9 Republican senators are up for re-election next year. A further shift to the right will be civil war in the GOP, not the whole country shifting right.
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Perhaps the Republican party will split in two.
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I think the Democrats, despite shooting ourselves in the foot on a regular basis, have a decent chance of winning both houses of Congress in 2018. We won't have the votes for impeachment, but we'll be in a good place.
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Foggy wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:11 pm
I think the Democrats, despite shooting ourselves in the foot on a regular basis, have a decent chance of winning both houses of Congress in 2018. We won't have the votes for impeachment, but we'll be in a good place.
Who are you, and what have you done with the Doomsayer?

(And Congress will remain controlled by (two warring factions of) Republicans.)
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Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:46 pm
Foggy wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:11 pm
Who are you, and what have you done with the Doomsayer?
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Hmph and harrumph. DoomSEERs (not Doomsayers) see doom for any effort to remove the OSG from office. But we (or at least I) also see the potential for a major comeback for the forces of progressivism. Congress in 2018, the White House in 2020.

But no successful effort to shorten the four years of Sociopathic Rule.
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Foggy wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:21 pm
Hmph and harrumph. DoomSEERs (not Doomsayers) see doom for any effort to remove the OSG from office. But we (or at least I) also see the potential for a major comeback for the forces of progressivism. Congress in 2018, the White House in 2020.

But no successful effort to shorten the four years of Sociopathic Rule.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him resign at some point, either to avoid impeachment or because he no longer likes the job.
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I humbly disagree. I have said many times, there's no way he'll be impeached. None. He will hang on to the bitter end, and will run for re-election. He will bitterly, viciously attack any Republican who runs against him in the primaries. That's as far as I know today.

Oh, except Jennifer Lawrence is our next president. :pray:
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Foggy wrote:
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Oh, except Jennifer Lawrence is our next president.
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