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I've been stupid busy the last couple days, but as the resident Wisconsin criminal lawyer here, I want to point out that actually (and it gives me absolutely no pleasure to say this) Lin Wood is in the right with the letters to the court regarding the bond money. Assuming bond is not forfeited (inc...

To my mind, the Proud Boys connection is an own-goal on Rittenhouse's part and should have come in. He has knowingly chosen to associate with that group while his case is pending, and cannot possibly be unaware of the negative connotations of that affiliation. To the extent that such information mi...

"Defense attorney Corey Chirafisi" Who's this guy? Wasn't Rittenhouse repped by that guy that had covid? John Pierce? The Rittenhouses fired Pierce some time ago. But Pierce was never going to be in the role of WI criminal defense attorney handling the case. That has been Mark Richards. C...

Motions in Klye [sic] Rittenhouse shooting case to be argued Friday Six weeks before the scheduled start of Kyle Rittenhouse's trial, a judge in Kenosha on Friday is set to hear arguments on a raft of motions that could shape what a jury hears. State motion to admit Proud Boys evidence: denied. Sta...

Let’s assume that the criminal case against him fails. Can he be sued for wrongful death? If so - can his bail money be the target? According to the Kenosha News story from February below, by law the $2 Million bail money will be returned to the person who paid it, which is John Pierce, who was the...

Self-defense cases are about circumstantial evidence, i.e., what evidence suggests a fear of immediate harm, and credibility, i.e., I believe the defendant did honestly fear even if those fears may have been unreasonable. How this kind of evidence is interpreted is highly dependent on who is doing ...

My bad. But did he use it on the people he shot? It does not sound like he did, which in the real world looks really bad. I think his fantasy came crashing down pretty badly and by that point he was well outside its framework. This is behavior he is going to have to explain, no question. His story ...

If Rittenhouse “had no hostility to the protestors” why did he decide to go to Kenosha, and why did he arm himself with a self-loading rifle? Seems to me both decisions indicate otherwise. You can use that as circumstantial evidence. My idea is that it is very weak when there is plenty of other, mu...

But it’s pretty clear that you think Rittenhouse was justified in killing two people and injuring a third.... So, yeah, it’s OK to bring in facts to try to generate some discussion about what those facts might mean. But don’t expect people here to assume you’re not arguing from a particular point o...

I’m an appellate litigator. Many things are “clear” and “obvious.” Pointing that out doesn’t mean I’ve somehow lost the argument. FYI a couple of profs did an empirical study! Abstract of their paper " Clearly, Using Intensifiers is Very Bad - Or is it ?" : Although scholars have generall...

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:22 pm
Really? I’m curious. Did you feel the same way about Derek Chauvin?

No.

A Kenosha News story says it was at the Pleasant Prairie RecPlex in Kenosha County. It says he had been employed there for only 20 days before the event. That is a detail I only just learned. That weakens one support for a claim to Kenosha connection that I have mentioned, so I will not put weight ...

Where was Rittenhouse working that it made it more convenient to travel to Kenosha? His furloughed YMCA job was in Lindenhurst IL. The New Yorker piece said he had just started a new life guarding job, but didn’t say where. A Kenosha News story says it was at the Pleasant Prairie RecPlex in Kenosha...

In point of fact, there is evidence he had connections to nearby Kenosha. He worked a job there. He had the buddy, Dominic Black, whom he knew well enough to stay over with. A summer job and a singular buddy is an odd motive to assign yourself a "job" that the property owner didn't want. ...

If you're interested, this video report from the Washington Post lays out a lot of interesting details about the events. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/how-the-lives-of-kyle-rittenhouse-and-joseph-rosenbaum-clashed-in-a-fatal-shooting-in-kenosha-wis/2020/11/18/5de94b5d-b7e8-4d62-a678-...

The boyfriend was at the demonstration. He was armed. He also purchased the weapon that Kyle immediately carried that evening at the same demonstration. So, one could infer the weapon was intended for that demonstration. The weapon was purchased in the spring, months before. Black said he and Ritte...

Good to know that speculation is now evidence. Speculation was not being offered as evidence. But it was: You are fabricating evidence of a benign motive. Because a benign motive fits your preferred narrative, and disproves your disfavored narrative. The only thing less credible than spinning fanta...

That's an interesting opinion, we'll see if judge and/or jury think crossing state lines to commit felonies is "totally irrelevant" or not at trial I suppose. He's not charged with any federal crimes. He's charged under state law in WI. The fact could be used as evidence by the jury, that...

Good to know that speculation is now evidence. Speculation was not being offered as evidence. The point was that the "crossed a state line" factoid doesn't support the intended implication. If it is not in fact true the Rittenhouse had a connection to Kenosha, it's not because of the stat...

sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:02 am Breaking a law always adds something of significance.

I am not sure what law you believe he broke. He isn't charged with any crimes for crossing the state line. He didn't transport the gun across the state line.

But Rittenhouse could well have had a stronger connection to Kenosha as a community he felt part of and had an interest in Good to know that speculation is now evidence. Speculation was not being offered as evidence. The point was that the "crossed a state line" factoid doesn't support th...

... I'm pretty sure the person who deliberately went out to a demonstration for a cause that was not theirs in a town that was not even in the same state as them and felt it necessary to arm themselves for journey is pretty obviously not a victim of anything. To comment on one bit of this: People l...

I’m an appellate litigator. Many things are “clear” and “obvious.” Pointing that out doesn’t mean I’ve somehow lost the argument. I overstated for rhetorical effect. Meanwhile, it can be used that way (as cover), it pays to zero in on adverbs like this and ask "if this is so obvious, why does ...

Just as a minor note, the prosecutor's motion says "Obviously he shares their ideology" which made me laugh. I was taught that whenever someone uses "obviously" or "clearly" in argumentative writing, it's to cover the fact that they have no argument. Let me file that a...

This guy? We're talking about this guy with the FREE AS FUCK shirt posing with a Proud Boy throwing the "white power sign" ? Just making sure. It verges on malpractice for his lawyers to have allowed this to happen, but I think he has a completely plausible explanation of this post-shooti...