All the President's Lies

User avatar
Addie
Posts: 26431
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:22 am
Location: downstairs

Re: All the President's Lies

#426

Post by Addie » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:25 pm

Roll Call
Trump Reiterates Falsehood About California Water Diversions

California officials not sure what to make of presidential claims


President Donald Trump on Monday again falsely stated that the California government is diverting river water into the Pacific Ocean that could be used to fight forest fires, but he also signaled he will fast-track federal help.

For the second consecutive day, the president took to Twitter to contend Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown’s administration is sending water from “the North” into the Pacific Ocean. Trump contended Monday that water could be used for “fires, farming and everything else.”

The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection has been puzzled by the claims from the president, according to Fox News. But that has not stopped Trump from calling out Brown by name. ...

A day later, the president used the same tweet with the false water claim to promise "Fast Federal govt. approvals.” That likely references either future federal funding assistance or his approval to move water stored in federal facilities to help fight the California fires.


¡Estiveo! come home.

User avatar
Addie
Posts: 26431
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:22 am
Location: downstairs

Re: All the President's Lies

#427

Post by Addie » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:31 pm

Bloomberg
Trump Loses a Battle in His War on Truth

President Donald Trump admitted over the weekend that the true purpose of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his senior campaign team and a group of Russians was to obtain actionable information on Hillary Clinton. The admission is a landmark in Trump's awkward struggle to contain the Russia scandal. But it may also signal a landmark defeat in Trump's larger battle against truth.

The essential tool of democratic politics is speech. As Karlyn Kohrs Campbell and Kathleen Hall Jamieson wrote in “Deeds Done in Words,” their study of U.S. presidential rhetoric, “Public communication is the medium through which the national fabric is woven.”

Trump's furious assault on truth claws at that fabric daily. But it has yet to shred it. When he is forced to retreat from falsehoods -- such as the series of lies that he and his aides told about the Trump Tower meeting -- it's a victory for truth and for democratic institutions.

While Trump's unprecedented dishonesty is well-documented -- see Susan Glasser's fine piece last week in the New Yorker -- it's still unclear what it means for American democracy. "I don't believe our democracy can function for long on lies," writes former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper in a new book.

That's no doubt true. But how many political lies, of what sort, does it take to break the democratic camel’s back? ...

The courts, which continue to value evidence over propaganda, have arguably been the most successful defense against Trump's assault. The news media, which still struggles to convey Trump's unique unfitness, has embraced fact-checking -- a truth test -- as a useful, if incomplete, heuristic for Trump's undemocratic ways. (Although Fox News and some other right-wing outlets seem more devoted than ever to propaganda.) Even Congress, which has a rich history of hypocrisy, evasion and untruths, appears to be no more fertile ground for lies today than in the pre-Trump era.


¡Estiveo! come home.

User avatar
Fortinbras
Posts: 2633
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:08 am

Re: All the President's Lies

#428

Post by Fortinbras » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:34 pm

It may happen that, altho the latest revelation about Don Jr's meeting with the Russians does not amount to an impeachable offense nor an indictment against Pres. Trump, it could send Junior to the slammer (for lying to Congress among other things). At that point, to save Junior from having to worry about his soap, Daddy might work a deal in which he steps down in return for a break for his son.

And, of course, altho Manafort is being prosecuted for crimes in which Trump was uninvolved, when the prospect of spending years in a different sort of gated community presents itself, Manafort - and others similarly situated - may opt to regale Meuller and others with interesting anecdotes about the President.

Yours truly, Captain Obvious



User avatar
Gregg
Posts: 1386
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:09 am
Location: Cincinnati, OH USA
Occupation: We build cars

Re: All the President's Lies

#429

Post by Gregg » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:50 am

Screw Manafort. I hope that Mueller gives up on him and says, in effect, he doesn't need anything that Manafort could tell him, and he hopes that he enjoys his retirement in prison.


Honorary Commander, 699th Airborne Assault Dachshund Regiment
Deadly Sausage Dogs from the Sky

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 17128
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: All the President's Lies

#430

Post by Volkonski » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:52 am

The nation should have sent more white people to college. :(

Image


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
Carl von Ossietsky
Posts: 358
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:55 am
Location: France
Occupation: Lawyer (retired )

Re: All the President's Lies

#431

Post by Carl von Ossietsky » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:58 am

College Degree, is that 9th grade? (Asking for myself) .


будем здоровы!

User avatar
Foggy
Posts: 26193
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:00 pm
Location: Fogbow HQ
Occupation: Dick Tater

Re: All the President's Lies

#432

Post by Foggy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:17 am

No, generally it means 16th grade, provided that you finish. It's not a specific number of years after 12th grade, there are varying requirements ... and there are 2 year colleges in addition to 4 year colleges.


The point of no return is no longer even visible in your rearview mirror. :-

User avatar
Addie
Posts: 26431
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:22 am
Location: downstairs

Re: All the President's Lies

#433

Post by Addie » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:02 am

A wrestling term, apparently. :confused:
Associated Press: We’re all living in President Trump’s kayfabe world, says Jonah Goldberg


¡Estiveo! come home.

User avatar
Slim Cognito
Posts: 4865
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:37 am

Re: All the President's Lies

#434

Post by Slim Cognito » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:19 am

Volkonski wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:52 am
The nation should have sent more white people to college. :(

Image
How long before Trump tweets about his 58% approval level from Gallup?


Trying to coordinate goggies to the Trumpie currently in the most trouble:
Manafort's accountant
ImageImageImage x4

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 17128
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: All the President's Lies

#435

Post by Volkonski » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:40 am


Kyle Griffin

Verified account

@kylegriffin1
Follow Follow @kylegriffin1
More
The AP says that Trump is "pulling numbers out of thin air" when it comes to the economy, jobs and the deficit. "The numbers don't even come close" to the reality.

8:00 AM - 12 Aug 2018
TRUMP: “Great financial numbers being announced on an almost daily basis. Economy has never been better, jobs at best point in history.” — tweet Monday.

THE FACTS: He’s exaggerating. The economy is healthy now, but it has been in better shape at many times in the past.

Growth reached 4.1 percent at an annual rate in the second quarter, which Trump highlighted late last month with remarks at the White House. But it’s only the best in the past four years. So far, the economy is expanding at a modest rate compared with previous economic expansions. In the late 1990s, growth topped 4 percent for four straight years, from 1997 through 2000. And in the 1980s expansion, growth even reached 7.2 percent in 1984.

It’s not clear what Trump specifically means when he declares that jobs are at the “best point in history,” but based on several indicators, he’s off the mark.


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
kate520
Posts: 14633
Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:02 pm
Location: Dark side of the Moon
Occupation: servant of cats, chicken wrangler
Contact:

Re: All the President's Lies

#436

Post by kate520 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:22 pm

kayfabe:
In professional wrestling, kayfabe /ˈkeɪfeɪb/ is the portrayal of staged events within the industry as "real" or "true", specifically the portrayal of competition, rivalries, and relationships between participants as being genuine and not of a staged or predetermined nature of any kind. Kayfabe has also evolved to become a code word of sorts for maintaining this "reality" within the direct or indirect presence of the general public.[1]

Kayfabe is often seen as the suspension of disbelief that is used to create the non-wrestling aspects of promotions, such as feuds, angles, and gimmicks, in a manner similar to other forms of fictional entertainment. In relative terms, a wrestler breaking kayfabe during a show would be likened to an actor breaking character on-camera. Also, since wrestling is performed in front of a live audience, whose interaction with the show is crucial to its success, kayfabe can be compared to the fourth wall in acting, since hardly any conventional fourth wall exists to begin with. In general, anything in a professional wrestling show is to some extent scripted, or "kayfabe", even though at times it is portrayed as legitimate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe


DEFEND DEMOCRACY

Post Reply

Return to “Trump Administration”