Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:06 pm
by Maybenaut
Fiascoist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:16 pm
No appeal until after sentencing and the standard motion for new trial(not necessary except to your ins carrier). Remember Kenny Lay who died before sentencing so he was found guilty but no sentencing judgment happened so no judgment.
And there will be a presentence report extolling what patriots these people are (NOT). Then appeal. If the sentences are shorter than the prison time AND the judge thinks they got a raw deal (but not so raw to grant a new trial and they are medical messes) they might not have to start serving their time. They will get credit for current time. And Caldwell may not have to report for a few months, but the others do Monopoly go to jail card. Yeah!!!!
The same would be true if he had died after sentencing but his appeal was pending. That was the case with Aaron Hernandez, the NFL dude killed himself after being sentenced to life in prison for murder.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:40 pm
by Kendra
Spoke to one of the Oath Keepers group two attorneys. Seems like they're on track to finish up jury selection tomorrow. As always, surprise about how many lawyers there are in the D.C. jury pool (so, so many).
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:44 pm
by sugar magnolia
Is that the same trial referenced in the other thread that you said was a bench trial or do they have more than 2 trials going right now?
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm
by Kendra
sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:44 pm
Is that the same trial referenced in the other thread that you said was a bench trial or do they have more than 2 trials going right now?
The bench trial I referenced in the other thread was not for an Oath Keeper to the best of my knowledge. It is getting complicated.
I believe this is the bench trial and this defendant is not associated with OK, but
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:18 pm
by Tiredretiredlawyer
Hubby found this.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:44 pm
Is that the same trial referenced in the other thread that you said was a bench trial or do they have more than 2 trials going right now?
The bench trial I referenced in the other thread was not for an Oath Keeper to the best of my knowledge. It is getting complicated.
I believe this is the bench trial and this defendant is not associated with OK, but
We're all confused. You corrected the tweet about it being the second day of jury selection for the OK trial, but this one appears to be the bench trial.
Or not. I mostly just wait for the verdicts and sentences.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:27 pm
by Kendra
Full story: Link to Congressman investigating Jan. 6 prompts jury concerns
• Oath Keepers defense questioned a potential juror after he said
@RepRaskin
– who serves on the House Jan. 6 Commitee – was his constitutional law professor
@CourthouseNews
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:04 pm
by Kendra
Opening arguments for the second Oath Keepers seditious conspiracy group are getting underway shortly. I've circled the four defendants in this trial group below in red.
I won't be live-tweeting this trial as I did the previous one, but I will periodically provide updates.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:41 pm
by Greatgrey
The trial to determine if AK Rep David Eastman should be removed due to his Oathkeeper allegiance was supposed to start today. But it snowed like all hell last night so the trial is delayed for a day.
But this gem emerged from his proposed witness list.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:44 pm
by Kendra
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Trial begins over office eligibility of Wasilla lawmaker with Oath Keepers ties
An Alaska legislator’s membership in the far-right Oath Keepers is at the center of a trial that began Tuesday.
A lawsuit filed earlier this year challenges Wasilla Rep. David Eastman’s eligibility to hold public office, based on a clause in the Alaska state constitution that forbids someone from holding public office if they aid or belong to a group that advocates the overthrow of the U.S. government. The court case against Eastman, a Republican, will be the first to test the Alaska Constitution clause.
The lawsuit was filed by former Mat-Su Assembly member Randall Kowalke, who is seeking to disqualify Eastman from office. Despite the pending legal challenge, Eastman won reelection in a landslide last month to his Wasilla House seat, garnering over 50% of the vote in a three-way race against two other Republicans.
Eastman was stripped of his minority caucus membership and committee assignments in the final weeks of the 2022 legislative session over what Republican lawmakers called an unproductive demeanor.
The outcome of the trial could impact who controls the Alaska House during the legislative session set to begin in January. Republicans, including Eastman, won 21 of the chamber’s 40 seats. But several Republican members of the Legislature have cited Eastman’s obstructionist tactics as a reason keeping them from joining a Republican-controlled majority. If Eastman is ruled ineligible to hold office, he will be replaced by one of the Republicans who ran against him. That could increase the likelihood of a Republican majority forming.
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Eastman, a West Point graduate and Army veteran, has served in the Alaska House since 2017, and has often been at the center of controversy over his outlandish, offensive and divisive statements that have alienated him from some fellow Republicans.
In 2021, Eastman’s name appeared on a leaked list of lifetime members of the Oath Keepers, a group whose leader was recently convicted of committing seditious conspiracy in connection with the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol. While members of the Legislature considered taking action against Eastman after the news about his membership in the group broke, they ultimately decided against it.
The majority of the first day of the trial was dedicated to testimony from Jon Lewis, a research fellow at the program on extremism at George Washington University, where he studies domestic violent extremism. Lewis was called by the plaintiff to answer questions about the role of the Oath Keepers in inciting a violent effort to stop the peaceful transfer of power from former President Donald Trump to President Joe Biden. Lewis also testified about the inclusion of Eastman in communications from leaders of the organization.
Lewis spent hours describing the formation of the Oath Keepers and their involvement in the violent actions that took place in the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
Joe Miller, the attorney representing Eastman, did not make an opening statement. In his cross-examination of Lewis, Miller said that Stewart Rhodes’ actions are separate from those of the Oath Keepers organization and its other members. Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers, was convicted last month of seditious conspiracy. Miller went on to argue that only a small fraction of Oath Keepers members have been charged with breaking the law in relation to the events of Jan. 6, 2021.
Lewis had previously given a presentation about the Oath Keepers to a committee of the Alaska Legislature in February of this year, after the revelation that Eastman was on the leaked list of lifetime members of the Oath Keepers.
The trial is expected to resume Wednesday morning and continue through the end of the week.
In an email sent to supporters Tuesday morning, Eastman asked for money to defray his legal fees associated with the trial.
In the email, paid for by a group called “Freedom-Loving Alaskans for David Eastman,” supporters of the lawmaker said the lawsuit is “intended to send a message to every future candidate who files for office that they can be sued personally for hundreds of THOUSANDS of dollars in legal fees if they file for office.”
According to the email, Eastman has already incurred costs of more than $100,000, “and legal fees will almost certainly reach $300,000 before this case is finished.”
The lawsuit also names the Alaska Division of Elections as a defendant, targeting the agency for its alleged failure to vet legislative candidates for their adherence to the state constitution. A state attorney representing the Division, Lael Harrison, was present during the hearing but said she would not participate in the proceedings and that “at this point the division has really no role to play in this trial.”
“The division’s position is that sound public policy argues against the Division of Elections enforcing the disloyalty clause,” said Harrison, suggesting that either the court or the Legislature could enforce it. “It should not be up to the division to be the ones making that determination, conducting some kind of investigation or being the enforcers of the disloyalty clause.”
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:13 pm
by Greatgrey
And in the Eastman trial they’ve made a connection to the Bundys.
Bonus:
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:09 pm
by Greatgrey
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:30 pm
by Kendra
NEW: Jury gets the case in seditious conspiracy trial of second group of OathKeepers Jan 6 defendants
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:49 pm
by Kendra
@MacFarlaneNews
Jury will not have verdict today in seditious conspiracy trial of 2nd group of accused OathKeepers Jan 6 defendants. Back on Monday
Lengthy trial. Deliberations began late this week.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:33 pm
by northland10
Do they get the menu for lunches in advance? Did Monday's lunch look yummy?
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:16 pm
by Frater I*I
northland10 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:33 pm
Do they get the menu for lunches in advance? Did Monday's lunch look yummy?
Better question: what's the daily federal jury pay for the District of DC
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:03 pm
by Kendra
Jury has reached a verdict in OK trial two.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:34 pm
by Kendra
JUST IN: All four Oath Keeper defendants — Ed Vallejo, Roberto Minuta, Joseph Hackett and David Moerschel — have been found *guilty* of seditious conspiracy.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:15 pm
by pipistrelle
Awww.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:30 pm
by Kendra
As in Barnett’s verdict this morning, Ashli Babbitt and Enrique Tarrio’s moms were in the courtroom for Oath Keepers verdict, along with Nicole Reffitt (wife of convicted Jan. 6 defendant Guy Reffitt).
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:53 pm
by pipistrelle
They’ll be on 24/7 house arrest with no access to firearms until sentencing
Do they get access after?
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:59 pm
by humblescribe
Enrique Tarrio. . . has a mom?
I can tell you that if I had ever done any of the sort of shit that Tarrio and his elk ever did, my mom would have disowned me, and said that I was not worthy of her love and support.
Then she would have felt guilty the rest of her life and tried to figure out what she did wrong. Meanwhile my dad would have tried to talk to me to see where I strayed and why.
Keepers of the Oaf (Oath Keepers) Elmer Stewart Rhodes etc.
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 5:11 pm
by keith
How is it that elk are always getting caught up with the wrong kind of people?