Syria - Stepping into the Void

User avatar
maydijo
Posts: 2598
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:23 pm
Location: where women glow and men plunder
Occupation: harassing marsupials

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#301

Post by maydijo » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:49 pm

MN-Skeptic wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:40 pm
maydijo wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:29 pm
May has said this isn't an open-ended military operation; does Trump see it the same way? How will the Russians respond? Is this going to be a once-off strike on some low-level targets like last year's, or is this going to be the opening shot of WWIII?
More importantly... will it take the focus off the Comey book and the Cohen search warrant? Will it make Trump look more like a manly man who would never need to hire prostitutes?
Off Topic
More and more, I find I am fascinated by the impacts of warped masculinity.



User avatar
RTH10260
Posts: 16472
Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:52 am
Location: Near the Swiss Alps

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#302

Post by RTH10260 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:45 pm

maydijo wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:29 pm
May has said this isn't an open-ended military operation; does Trump see it the same way? How will the Russians respond? Is this going to be a once-off strike on some low-level targets like last year's, or is this going to be the opening shot of WWIII?
If the Russians aka Putin thinks he needs to retaliate, then those 2K Americans (and I think a few Brits) better hunker down for the next few days.



User avatar
TollandRCR
Posts: 20243
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:17 pm

Re: Syria - Stepping

#303

Post by TollandRCR » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:47 pm

Secretary Mattis has described three of the targets hit tonight. Are our intelligence capabilies so strong that we can tell, for example, where sarin is being stored?


“The truth is, we know so little about life, we don’t really know what the good news is and what the bad news is.” Kurt Vonnegut

User avatar
GlimDropper
Posts: 1320
Joined: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:35 pm

Re: Syria - Stepping

#304

Post by GlimDropper » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:41 am

TollandRCR wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:47 pm
Secretary Mattis has described three of the targets hit tonight. Are our intelligence capabilies so strong that we can tell, for example, where sarin is being stored?
I really try not to be too tin foil hat but the truth is sometimes the first casualty of war. Isis is an empty husk as far as Syria is concerned and the anti Assad forces aren't doing that much better. I know this isn't often a relevant question but why would Assad take such a stupid (and expensive) risk like making and using chemical weapons? They can't accelerate his eventual victory in proportion to their possible risk. I'm not saying I don't think he was using chemical weapons so much as thinking he'd be an idiot for doing so.

And it goes without saying that the timing of Trump's assault is fortuitous to the news cycle and it is rather strange that Trump is more concerned with possible chemical attacks in Syria than he ever showed himself to be about confirmed nerve agent attacks in the UK.



User avatar
Turtle
Posts: 2412
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:27 pm
Occupation: SPACE FORCE COMMANDER

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#305

Post by Turtle » Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:39 am

Alex has a mad




User avatar
Fortinbras
Posts: 2595
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:08 am

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#306

Post by Fortinbras » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:41 am

Back in 1998, just as Clinton was about to launch a military incursion into Afghanistan in pursuit of Osama Bin-Laden, the Republicans blocked him with the mantra "No War for Monica". You can figure how that worked out.

So now we are at a point where the rest of us have something similar to chant at Trump.

Trump, very uncharacteristically, read his speech as it was posted on the TelePrompter. It was contrived to pretend that this operation also punished
- and ended any cozy relationship with - Russia by whining that Russia hadn't kept a promise to remove "every last bit" of chemical warfare from Syria. I know that Putin's supposed to be a very bad man, but I don't think anyone can guarantee about "every last bit" when the client country is run by a ruthless dictator. Remember how well Bush41 did trying to persuade El Salvador not to make political dissidents "disappear"? Anyway, as it turned out Trump's bombing was nowhere near Russian troops, so apparently no Russians were even bruised. I feel confident that Putin will tolerate mere words of abuse so long as he does not suffer any tangible reverses.

At the same time, Trump boasted of having "virtually" defeated and exterminated ISIS. It turns out that ISIS is still very formidable, and is still dangerous in parts of Syria, and has some units still going strong outside Syria - which could be moved into Syria at the whim of whomever is running of ISIS. Trump wanted credit for "virtually" but whipped Putin for failing on "every last bit".

Trump's Syrian adventure might be entirely justified and executed with the best judgment and planning and results. But, considering that it's Trump who was giving the command, it will always feel as if this attack had a hidden motivation and was slapdash.



User avatar
TollandRCR
Posts: 20243
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:17 pm

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#307

Post by TollandRCR » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:00 am

A thoughtful article by Richard Beck, The Syria Catastrophe, nplus 1 magazine, issue 28 Spring 2017.
https://nplusonemag.com/issue-28/politi ... strophe-2/


“The truth is, we know so little about life, we don’t really know what the good news is and what the bad news is.” Kurt Vonnegut

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 16752
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#308

Post by Volkonski » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:29 am


NBC News

@NBCNews

Russia's UN ambassador: Russia condemns in the strongest possible terms the attack against Syria ... Through its actions, the U.S. makes an already catastrophic humanitarian situation in Syria even worse.
10:24 AM - Apr 14, 2018
Will this cool Trump's fondness for Putin? :think:


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 16752
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#309

Post by Volkonski » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:54 pm

A pessimistic view of the situation in Syria. When "Sarajevo 1914" is invoked you know the writer is worried.


The Guardian

@guardian

Syria crisis: danger awaits in rush for influence on crowded battlefield
https://
trib.al/mdrK1E1

11:44 AM - Apr 14, 2018
“The mechanisms and safeguards that existed to prevent escalation in the past no longer seem to be present,” the secretary general said. It is debatable exactly when the world last found itself in such a perilous situation. Perhaps the 1983 missile standoff in Europe, when a Nato exercise, Able Archer, almost triggered a panicked nuclear launch by the Soviet Union.

The level of paranoia has not yet reached that pitch, but other aspects of the current crisis are arguably more dangerous. There is less communication between Washington and Moscow and there are no longer just two players in the game, but a jostling scrum of major powers in decline and middling powers on the rise. Pursuing national agendas on such a crowded battlefield without colliding with others is increasingly hard. The precise targeting of the Friday night airstrikes was all about avoiding such a potentially catastrophic collision. But US defence secretary James Mattis and his generals were reportedly under pressure from the White House to use the strikes as an opportunity to take a swipe at Iran.

Those temptations are not going to go away, particularly after the arrival in the White House of John Bolton, a radical hawk on Iran, whose new position as national security adviser at Trump’s ear will echo what the president is hearing from Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

In the gravitational pull of these agendas and allies, there are disturbing echoes of the eve of the first world war. It has more than a whiff of Sarajevo 1914 – with nuclear weapons looming not far off stage.


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 16752
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#310

Post by Volkonski » Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:51 pm

In Moscow, a Sense of Relief After a Limited Syria Attack

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/14/worl ... &smtyp=cur
The sun was barely up before the Defense Ministry, not famous for speedy reactions, pumped out a statement underscoring that none of the thousands of Russian troops garrisoned in Syria had been threatened by the American, British and French attack and that none of its air defense systems had been mobilized.

“It looks like both sides were playing according to their prescribed roles and managed to limit the harm from this kind of confrontation,” said Aleksandr M. Golts, an independent Russian military analyst and deputy editor of Yezhenedelny Zhurnal, an online current affairs magazine. “Syria will not be the starting point for some kind of global confrontation.”

The American ambassador to Russia, Jon M. Huntsman Jr., released a statement on Facebook on Saturday confirming that the two sides had taken steps before the assault to made sure they stayed out of each other’s way. “Before we took action,” he said, “the U.S. communicated with the R.F. to reduce the danger of any Russian or civilian casualties.”

Of course, the latest attack binds Russia more closely than ever to President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. The fact that there was no immediate Russian reaction to President Trump’s scathing remarks about that alliance suggested that the Kremlin has accepted the costs involved.
Putin's official statement-

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/57257
The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons dispatched its experts to Syria in order to investigate all the circumstances. However, in a sign of cynical disdain, a group of Western countries decided to take military action without waiting for the results of the investigation.

Russia condemns in the strongest possible terms the attack against Syria, where Russian military personnel are assisting the legitimate government in its counterterrorism efforts.

Through its actions, the US makes the already catastrophic humanitarian situation in Syria even worse and brings suffering to civilians. In fact, the US panders to the terrorists who have been tormenting the Syrian people for seven years, leading to a wave of refugees fleeing this country and the region.

The current escalation around Syria is destructive for the entire system of international relations. History will set things right, and Washington already bears the heavy responsibility for the bloody outrage in Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya.


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
Fortinbras
Posts: 2595
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:08 am

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#311

Post by Fortinbras » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:29 pm

This is a golden opportunity for the Democrats to STFU. Today it seems that most Congressional Democrats are on TV bleating that Trump should get - and should have gotten - Congressional approval for Friday's action in Syria. But this strike on Damascus - "Operation Desert Stormy" - was a one-time thing; One-And-Done. The War Powers Act allows this sort of One-And-Done to a President without Congressional involvement. Only if this is going to be prolonged does the President have to get Congressional approval. This law applies to Presidents of both parties.

As far as voters are concerned, so far this Damascus bombing is a good thing, maybe Trump's only really good thing ... and the Democrats' negativity tends to suggest that their criticism has morphed into nonstop whining no matter what Trump does or doesn't do. So the Democrats should just hold their puke on this one and let Trump get his plaudits. It's Donald Trump I'm talking about, so we know he'll screw up before much time passes.



User avatar
Danraft
Posts: 550
Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:45 pm

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#312

Post by Danraft » Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:46 pm

Russian Twitter bots are amping up after being relatively quiet for the last week.
zerohedge and dailywire near the top with the standard rt sites.
white hat, dz tags attempting to shape this as a US false flag.
Hamilton shows the 1600% uptick.
http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org


We've go work to do, so pull on your sock puppets and Log In!!!- Dr Whom (DNA test prove the M is silent)

User avatar
tencats
Posts: 197
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:09 pm
Location: Illinois

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#313

Post by tencats » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:36 am

Iraq on Syria Strikes: We’ve seen this Movie and it doesn’t End Well
By Juan Cole | Apr. 15, 2018 |
https://www.juancole.com/2018/04/syria- ... oesnt.html
Iraq’s foreign ministry came out strongly against the US, British and French missile strikes on Syria. In a statement issued Saturday, the ministry called the attacks “an extremely dangerous step”that could result in a weakening of regional security.

Spokesman Ahmad Mahjub said, “The ministry underlines the necessity for a political solution that meets the aspirations of the Syrian people.” Strikes like those launched Friday, he said, “give terrorism a new opportunity to spread after its defeat in Iaq and its substantial retreat in Syria.” He said Iraq calls on the Arab League to take a clear stance against this dangerous development.

The Iraqis are clearly afraid that the North Atlantic intervention will embolden ISIL/ Daesh to start back up its operations.
:snippity:
These reactions show how profoundly the George W. Bush administration damaged American credibility on the world stage by its gotten-up war on Iraq. At a time of rising China, resurgent Russia, profound doubts about President Trump, and the rise of algorithmic fake news on social media, the United States cannot afford this major and lasting hit to its credibility. Those Americans who are now thinking more positively about Bush (why?) should reconsider.

Washington keeps hoping that post-American Iraq will emerge as a strong US ally in the region. The reality is mixed. Iraq’s Shiite elites, along with most Kurds and Sunnis, are happy to ally against al-Qaeda and ISIL and other Sunni/Wahhabi extremist groups. But Iraqi Shiites and Kurds are not willing to line up against Iran or Iranian allies like Baathist Syria. That is a key contradiction in US policy in the region, to the extent that there is any policy.https://www.juancole.com/2018/04/syria- ... oesnt.html



User avatar
Danraft
Posts: 550
Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:45 pm

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#314

Post by Danraft » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:49 am

Danraft wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:46 pm
review
Ok. Who is it? We say it here... it ends up there....
Trump press sec about Russian bots... I had randomly looked at the bot report and commented here... nowhere else... yikes



We've go work to do, so pull on your sock puppets and Log In!!!- Dr Whom (DNA test prove the M is silent)

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 16752
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#315

Post by Volkonski » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:11 pm


Maxim A. Suchkov
@MSuchkov_ALM

#BREAKING: President @EmmanuelMacron says #France has convinced #Trump to "stay in #Syria long-term" (via @AFP)
2:10 PM - Apr 15, 2018
Really? How is Alex Jones taking this news?


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 16752
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#316

Post by Volkonski » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:10 pm

:shock: Will France save us from the worst of Trump? ;)


The Guardian

@guardian

'We convinced him': Macron says he steered Trump on Syria strikes
https://
trib.al/2SLKOA3

6:54 PM - Apr 15, 2018
French president Emmanuel Macron has claimed that he convinced Donald Trump to keep troops in Syria for the long term and limit Saturday’s joint strikes to chemical weapons facilities.

Macron said in an interview on Sunday that restricting the missile strikes to specific targets was not necessarily Trump’s initial plan. “We also persuaded him that we needed to limit the strikes to chemical weapons [sites], after things got a little carried away over tweets,” he said.

The French president also said: “Ten days ago, President Trump was saying ‘the United States should withdraw from Syria’. We convinced him it was necessary to stay. We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term.”

While it is unusual for a French president to present himself as driving US policy on military matters in the Middle East, Macron and Trump have developed a friendly relationship over the past year. Macron invited Trump to Bastille day celebrations last year and will travel to Washington on a state visit this month.


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 16752
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#317

Post by Volkonski » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Has Alex Jones gotten to Trump? ;)


CNN Breaking News

@cnnbrk

Sarah Sanders releases a statement saying President Trump has been clear he wants US forces in Syria to come home. Earlier Sunday, French President Macron said he convinced Trump to stay in Syria.
http://
cnn.it/2H16Bsr

7:42 PM - Apr 15, 2018
Seriously, with all Trump's flip-flops foreign leaders will stop believing anything he says on any subject.

Trump will be completely untrusted. The president who cried "wolf".


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 16752
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#318

Post by Volkonski » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:25 am


Guardian news

@guardiannews

Syria: chemical weapons inspectors denied access to Douma site
https://
ebx.sh/2J07tds

9:23 AM - Apr 16, 2018
Inspectors from the global chemical weapons watchdog have been unable to access sites controlled by Russia and the Syrian regime in the town of Douma to investigate an attack on 7 April that killed dozens and prompted US-led missile strikes over the weekend.

The director-general of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons told a meeting of the OPCW executive council that inspectors had not been allowed to visit the town outside Damascus, the UK delegation tweeted. “Unfettered access essential. Russia & Syria must cooperate,” the delegation tweeted.

According to Petter Lycke, Sweden’s representative at the OPCW executive council, Syria and Russia told the inspectors that their safety could not be guaranteed.

In remarks that could indicate an attempt to bog down the OPCW team, Russia’s deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, said the inspectors will not be allowed to access the site until they produce an appropriate UN permit.


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
Turtle
Posts: 2412
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:27 pm
Occupation: SPACE FORCE COMMANDER

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#319

Post by Turtle » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:39 am

Volkonski wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:25 am

Guardian news

@guardiannews

Syria: chemical weapons inspectors denied access to Douma site
https://
ebx.sh/2J07tds

9:23 AM - Apr 16, 2018
Inspectors from the global chemical weapons watchdog have been unable to access sites controlled by Russia and the Syrian regime in the town of Douma to investigate an attack on 7 April that killed dozens and prompted US-led missile strikes over the weekend.

The director-general of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons told a meeting of the OPCW executive council that inspectors had not been allowed to visit the town outside Damascus, the UK delegation tweeted. “Unfettered access essential. Russia & Syria must cooperate,” the delegation tweeted.

According to Petter Lycke, Sweden’s representative at the OPCW executive council, Syria and Russia told the inspectors that their safety could not be guaranteed.

In remarks that could indicate an attempt to bog down the OPCW team, Russia’s deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, said the inspectors will not be allowed to access the site until they produce an appropriate UN permit.
I'm sure this misunderstanding can be cleared up with a limited airstrike upon which DOTUS can tweet out another "Mission Accomplished!" and definitely for real this time because it worked so well with Saddam.



User avatar
Suranis
Posts: 15564
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:04 am

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#320

Post by Suranis » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:15 pm

Image


"The devil...the prowde spirite...cannot endure to be mocked.” - Thomas Moore

User avatar
Jim
Posts: 3015
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 4:05 pm

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#321

Post by Jim » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:38 pm

Another Trump failure?

Israeli intelligence reportedly says Trump's Syria strike failed, didn't take out much of anything

http://www.businessinsider.com/israeli- ... led-2018-4
The strike by the US, the UK, and France in Syria on Friday involved 105 missiles fired from air and sea to rain down thousands of pounds of explosives on three targets suspected of being chemical weapons facilities— but Israeli officials cited in a recent news report characterized it as a failure.

"If President Trump had ordered the strike only to show that the US responded to [Syrian President Bashar] Assad's use of chemical weapons, then that goal has been achieved," Israel's Ynetnews quoted a senior defense official as saying. "But if there was another objective — such as paralyzing the ability to launch chemical weapons or deterring Assad from using it again — it's doubtful any of these objectives have been met."

An intelligence official who talked to Ynetnews wasn't as forgiving.

"The statement of 'Mission Accomplished' and (the assertion) that Assad's ability to use chemical weapons has been fatally hit has no basis," the official said, most likely referring to a recent tweet from President Donald Trump.



User avatar
bob
Posts: 24052
Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:22 pm

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#322

Post by bob » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:48 pm

Jim wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:38 pm
Israeli intelligence reportedly says Trump's Syria strike failed, didn't take out much of anything
And: Newsweek:
Russia Says It Told U.S. Where in Syria It Was Allowed to Bomb
:
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has claimed that Moscow dictated where U.S., British and French forces were allowed to attack in the weekend's air strikes on suspected Syrian chemical weapons facilities, Sky News reported.

Coalition forces destroyed three storage and production sites in response to an alleged April 7 chemical attack on civilians that killed at least 40 people in the rebel-held city of Douma, near Damascus.

* * *

According to Lavrov, Russia had been in contact with the coalition in the days leading up to the attack, dictating its “red lines” beyond which air strikes would be considered unacceptable. Russian officials had previously warned that any attacks on Syrian territory would result in Russian retaliation.
So the very expensive fireworks was just yet more base pandering.


Imagex6 Imagex2 Imagex4 Imagex2

User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 16752
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:44 pm
Location: Texas Gulf Coast and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired Mechanical Engineer

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#323

Post by Volkonski » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:11 pm

Trump will probably tweet that that is fake news. ;)


Image“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.”
― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace

User avatar
RTH10260
Posts: 16472
Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:52 am
Location: Near the Swiss Alps

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#324

Post by RTH10260 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:01 pm

Jim wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:38 pm
Another Trump failure?

Israeli intelligence reportedly says Trump's Syria strike failed, didn't take out much of anything

http://www.businessinsider.com/israeli- ... led-2018-4
:snippity:
BusinessInsider wrote: The latest strike most likely didn't change anything on the battlefield in Syria, and it's hard to know how much of the chemical weapons stockpile it hit..
Hitting chemical stockpiles would have left a visible gas cloud. It may have caused additional civilian deaths depending the location of the armoury.

And
BusinessINsider title wrote:Israeli intelligence reportedly says Trump's Syria strike failed, didn't take out much of anything
I infer that the Israelis may have known some locations but were not asked and did not come forward to help the blabbermouth.



User avatar
RTH10260
Posts: 16472
Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:52 am
Location: Near the Swiss Alps

Re: Syria - Stepping into the Void

#325

Post by RTH10260 » Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:05 pm

bob wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:48 pm
Jim wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:38 pm
Israeli intelligence reportedly says Trump's Syria strike failed, didn't take out much of anything
And: Newsweek:
Russia Says It Told U.S. Where in Syria It Was Allowed to Bomb
:
:snippity:
According to Lavrov, Russia had been in contact with the coalition in the days leading up to the attack, dictating its “red lines” beyond which air strikes would be considered unacceptable. Russian officials had previously warned that any attacks on Syrian territory would result in Russian retaliation.
So the very expensive fireworks was just yet more base pandering.
Putin did not mind that the US would spend some $250mio on turning some buildings to rubble. Maybe they are even happy to see some sites closed down themselves. The Art Of The Deal ;)



Post Reply

Return to “Foreign Policy”