
Gavin Seim
- Sam the Centipede
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Obviously one must be skeptical – or even disbelieving – of everything said or written by Slimy Seim.
When he claims to tell the cop to read the Constitution, I wonder whether he has any shred of understanding of the Constitution of Mexico? Heck, I doubt that he knows much of his USA's Constitution beyond sovcit argle-bargle!
Mexico's Constitution is a very different document than the USA's. While of course it protects or provides many individual rights, the USM Constitution emphases protection of the Mexican state from foreign interference, to the extent that non-nationals and/or non-citizens are barred from many roles, such as serving in the police or armed forces, participation in politics, owning land near the country's borders and so on. These concerns arose from repeated interventions and invasions from European powers and the undue power of the Roman Catholic church especially in the 19th century.
It will be amusing when Seim gets into trouble and finds that Mexican courts do not recognize the special god-given privileges that are due to him as a white US citizen, especially one keen to avoid USA law enforcement.
When he claims to tell the cop to read the Constitution, I wonder whether he has any shred of understanding of the Constitution of Mexico? Heck, I doubt that he knows much of his USA's Constitution beyond sovcit argle-bargle!
Mexico's Constitution is a very different document than the USA's. While of course it protects or provides many individual rights, the USM Constitution emphases protection of the Mexican state from foreign interference, to the extent that non-nationals and/or non-citizens are barred from many roles, such as serving in the police or armed forces, participation in politics, owning land near the country's borders and so on. These concerns arose from repeated interventions and invasions from European powers and the undue power of the Roman Catholic church especially in the 19th century.
It will be amusing when Seim gets into trouble and finds that Mexican courts do not recognize the special god-given privileges that are due to him as a white US citizen, especially one keen to avoid USA law enforcement.
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As the official name of Mexico is los Estados Unidos Mexicanos, the United States of Mexico, it seemed polite to me to distinguish explicitly between the USM and the USA
Re: Gavin Seim
Ya I imagine any video from Her Gavin will be carefully edited.
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Re: Gavin Seim
The families in the community of the ones that were murdered are doing a mass exodus from Mexico.
"More than 100 people fled their rural community in northern Mexico on Saturday in an 18-vehicle caravan heading north, days after nine of their family members were killed in a drug cartel ambush."
https://tucson.com/news/local/days-afte ... b77f0.html
"More than 100 people fled their rural community in northern Mexico on Saturday in an 18-vehicle caravan heading north, days after nine of their family members were killed in a drug cartel ambush."
https://tucson.com/news/local/days-afte ... b77f0.html
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I saw somewhere that one of the ambushed vehicles belonged to someone who was in the process of leaving for North Dakota.Raven wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:03 am The families in the community of the ones that were murdered are doing a mass exodus from Mexico.
"More than 100 people fled their rural community in northern Mexico on Saturday in an 18-vehicle caravan heading north, days after nine of their family members were killed in a drug cartel ambush."
https://tucson.com/news/local/days-afte ... b77f0.html
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I'm not clear on their citizenship status? Are they American or dual citizens and how?Azastan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:33 amI saw somewhere that one of the ambushed vehicles belonged to someone who was in the process of leaving for North Dakota.Raven wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:03 am The families in the community of the ones that were murdered are doing a mass exodus from Mexico.
"More than 100 people fled their rural community in northern Mexico on Saturday in an 18-vehicle caravan heading north, days after nine of their family members were killed in a drug cartel ambush."
https://tucson.com/news/local/days-afte ... b77f0.html
What Gavin and Nathan are likely incapable of figuring out is that when everyone has guns and the government is weak or indifferent, you're going to have lots of this kind of violence. Which works for them when it's the Bundys who are armed, not so much when it's drug cartels.
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If I understand correctly, they are dual citizens. It looks as if most of them return to the United States of America, have their children born there, then go back to Mexico. That makes the children automatically US citizens. Under Mexican law, children born to Mexican citizens, even born outside of Mexico, are also Mexican citizens.pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:49 amI'm not clear on their citizenship status? Are they American or dual citizens and how?Azastan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:33 amI saw somewhere that one of the ambushed vehicles belonged to someone who was in the process of leaving for North Dakota.Raven wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:03 am The families in the community of the ones that were murdered are doing a mass exodus from Mexico.
"More than 100 people fled their rural community in northern Mexico on Saturday in an 18-vehicle caravan heading north, days after nine of their family members were killed in a drug cartel ambush."
https://tucson.com/news/local/days-afte ... b77f0.html
What Gavin and Nathan are likely incapable of figuring out is that when everyone has guns and the government is weak or indifferent, you're going to have lots of this kind of violence. Which works for them when it's the Bundys who are armed, not so much when it's drug cartels.
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That would make the children "Anchor Babies". Where is the RWNJ outrage?Azastan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:32 ampipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:49 amAzastan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:33 am
If I understand correctly, they are dual citizens. It looks as if most of them return to the United States of America, have their children born there, then go back to Mexico. That makes the children automatically US citizens. Under Mexican law, children born to Mexican citizens, even born outside of Mexico, are also Mexican citizens.
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I and a lot of people on here would doubt he could say that sentence in Spanish.Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:20 am When he claims to tell the cop to read the Constitution....
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I didn't think the US allowed joint citizenship. Possibly US citizens with residency rights in Mexico?Azastan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:32 am If I understand correctly, they are dual citizens. It looks as if most of them return to the United States of America, have their children born there, then go back to Mexico. That makes the children automatically US citizens. Under Mexican law, children born to Mexican citizens, even born outside of Mexico, are also Mexican citizens.
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I am a dual citizen of the United States and the UK.ArthurWankspittle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:44 pmI didn't think the US allowed joint citizenship. Possibly US citizens with residency rights in Mexico?Azastan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:32 am If I understand correctly, they are dual citizens. It looks as if most of them return to the United States of America, have their children born there, then go back to Mexico. That makes the children automatically US citizens. Under Mexican law, children born to Mexican citizens, even born outside of Mexico, are also Mexican citizens.
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1 I don't know what I'm thinking of then
2 You haven't called round
2 You haven't called round
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I'm in Washington State LOL.ArthurWankspittle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:58 pm 1 I don't know what I'm thinking of then
2 You haven't called round
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I'll let you off then.
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I wonder if something's changed. I had a friend who was a dual citizen who had to choose by age 21 one way or another. Not recently; years ago.ArthurWankspittle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:58 pm 1 I don't know what I'm thinking of then
2 You haven't called round
Edit: U.S. doesn't formally recognize dual citizenships.
https://immigration.findlaw.com/citizen ... nship.html
https://immigration.findlaw.com/citizen ... nship.html
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But other countries do.pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:01 pmI wonder if something's changed. I had a friend who was a dual citizen who had to choose by age 21 one way or another. Not recently; years ago.ArthurWankspittle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:58 pm 1 I don't know what I'm thinking of then
2 You haven't called roundEdit: U.S. doesn't formally recognize dual citizenships.
https://immigration.findlaw.com/citizen ... nship.html
In my case, I was born in England, to English parents. As far as the UK is concerned, that makes me forever a citizen of the UK. My parents emigrated to the United States, became US citizens, and thus, I became one also since I was a minor at the time of naturalization.
It sounds as if it's the same with Mexico. Children born to people who are citizens of Mexico are considered citizens of Mexico no matter where they are born. So if one of the LeBaron group goes to live in, say, North Dakota, and has children, the US considers them to be citizens--but so does Mexico.
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Countries that insist that their citizens renounce any other citizenship usually seem to have a provision in the rules acknowledging that some countries do not recognize renunciation of citizenship by a born citizen.
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So was UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, until recently.Azastan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:56 pmI am a dual citizen of the United States and the UK.ArthurWankspittle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:44 pmI didn't think the US allowed joint citizenship. Possibly US citizens with residency rights in Mexico?Azastan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:32 am If I understand correctly, they are dual citizens. It looks as if most of them return to the United States of America, have their children born there, then go back to Mexico. That makes the children automatically US citizens. Under Mexican law, children born to Mexican citizens, even born outside of Mexico, are also Mexican citizens.
He was born in New York to UK citizens who were living there on business. Since he was born on US soil, he was a US citizen. Since his parents were UK citizens, so was he.
A few years ago, when he was mayor of London, he sold his personal residence for a substantial profit. It is my understanding that UK tax laws do not tax profit from the sale of a personal residence, but US law does.
US tax law also says that US citizens are responsible for paying taxes on income earned anywhere in the world. The IRS got wind of the sale and came after him for the tax due. He settled with the IRS, but I don't believe that the terms were ever made public.
SHortly after that, he renounced his US citizenship.
For that matter, UK Prince Archie, the infant son of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, is also a US citizen. His mother was and still is a US citizen. She will be responsible for US tax on residuals she receives from her acting career. Archie, as a US citizen, could find himself in the same position as Boris Johnson, when he is old enough to have his own income. I'm really surprised that she didn't renounce her US citizenship before Archie was born.
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The last thing was pertinent to the birthers' belief that Barack Obama lost his US citizenship and became a citizen of Indonesia. However, Indonesia requires that a naturalized citizen must formally renounce citizenship in any other country.Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:45 pmMy interpretation of "not recognizing dual citizenship" (in any country) is that the country's laws say that if you're a citizen of that country then the authorities will ignore any other citizenship that you have or claim to have. So no diplomatic immunity, no special tax treatment, etc.
Countries that insist that their citizens renounce any other citizenship usually seem to have a provision in the rules acknowledging that some countries do not recognize renunciation of citizenship by a born citizen.
US law, however, says that a minor (which BHO was when he lived in Indonesia) can NOT renounce his/her citizenship and his parents/guardians can NOT renounce it on his/her behalf. So, there is no way that BHO could have lost his US citizenship or become an Indonesian citizen.
Re: Gavin Seim
I knew Gab's parents were in Mexico - evidently one of his brothers (not named Nathan) is there too - not sure which one because he has many. Also looks like dangerous shit they are doing with the Seim kids. Also too, "the wives"
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At the beach in Mexico with 2 of my brothers, the wives, 15 kids and freinds. Also the kids are riding cars towed behind a quad. Things you could never buy on the beach in Mexico
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I can't imagine that the pink car in front tows very well (and Ol' Gav has slipped up with his " Things you could never buy on the beach in Mexico". Won't mention 'freinds').
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How can he? He has no life experience beyond interaction with his small, dysfunctional family. He is as sophisticated as Floyd the barber, though unfortunately only as intelligent as a curbstone.