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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:07 am Thomas has to deliver for his customers.
Or overlords?
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A Texas landowner can sue the state for flood damage to his property, U.S. Supreme Court rules
Richie DeVillier, who owns land east of Houston, said the state owes him damages for constant flooding after Texas made changes to Interstate 10 near his property.

BY JESS HUFF
APRIL 16, 2024 10 AM CENTRAL

LUFKIN — A Texas landowner may seek compensation from the state for damages to his property east of Houston, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled unanimously Tuesday.

Richie DeVillier, a landowner in Chambers County, sued the state in 2020 after his land repeatedly flooded following changes Texas made to Interstate 10. The original lawsuit argued DeVillier had a right to damages under state law and the U.S. Constitution's Fifth Amendment, which prohibits governments from taking private property for public use without compensation.

Texas officials moved the case to federal courts, then sought to dismiss it, suggested it was not a Fifth Amendment issue. Lower courts disagreed prompting the U.S. Supreme Court to take up the case.

Aaron Lloyd Nielson of the Texas Attorney General’s Office said at oral arguments on Jan. 16 that the state would accept the case if it were updated to reflect only state law.

The Supreme Court determined Texas ought to consider the case under state law, which would permit DeVillier to pursue compensation.

“And, although Texas asserted that proceeding under the state-law cause of action would require an amendment to the complaint, it also assured the Court that it would not oppose any attempt by DeVillier and the other petitioners to seek one,” Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in the opinion.

DeVillier’s lawsuit was representative of 120 other property owners who also faced significant damage during Hurricane Harvey as a result of the barrier.



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OMG. I listened to quite a bit of the SCOTUS hearing this morning. Trump is going to get away with everything.
The conservative "justices" reminded me of how much I absolutely hate their guts. They are going to keep sending small bits down to the lower courts and this issue will never be settled until Trump is beyond the grave.
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Yessir, that's how the system works. Doorknob.
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The Three Stooges of Death had a field day muddying the non-issue. Bluster bluster bluster most important case ever bluster bluster Ford decision to pardon Nixon proven the correct one (not) bluster bluster wake up Thomas so we can go crime somewhere else.

Gee, for a group with no credibility, they have a lot of power.

Minor curiosity as to whether or not Roberts and/or (shock) Barrett will go full corruption or allow the trial to go ahead.

Not putting a dime on that.
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p0rtia wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:26 pm The Three Stooges of Death had a field day muddying the non-issue. Bluster bluster bluster most important case ever bluster bluster Ford decision to pardon Nixon proven the correct one (not) bluster bluster wake up Thomas so we can go crime somewhere else.

Gee, for a group with no credibility, they have a lot of power.

Minor curiosity as to whether or not Roberts and/or (shock) Barrett will go full corruption or allow the trial to go ahead.

Not putting a dime on that.
When Barrett seems the most reasonable of the conservatives...
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Right???

Two days in a row!
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https://x.com/judgeluttig/status/1783542480069185587
@judgeluttig @judgeluttig wrote: As with the three-hour argument in Trump v. Anderson, a disconcertingly precious little of the two-hour argument today was even devoted to the specific and only question presented for decision.
That's cause the fix is in!
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:30 pm https://x.com/judgeluttig/status/1783542480069185587
@judgeluttig @judgeluttig wrote: As with the three-hour argument in Trump v. Anderson, a disconcertingly precious little of the two-hour argument today was even devoted to the specific and only question presented for decision.
That's cause the fix is in!
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Jackson doggedly brought it up each time she spoke.
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p0rtia wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:41 pm Jackson doggedly brought it up each time she spoke.
Yes, I should have also mentioned that pretty much my comments are referring to the conservative majority. And let's face it, they are they only ones that matter when it comes to how the Supreme Court is going to opine on any issue. Their super majority is just devastating for the rule of law.
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Speaking of destabilizing our country...
Citizen Free Press @CitizenFreePres wrote: Justice Alito

If an incumbent president knows he may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country...
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Huh. Good.
Ryan Goodman @rgoodlaw wrote: Due to Trump attorney's concessions in Supreme Court oral argument, there's now a very clear path for DOJ's case to go forward.

It'd be a travesty for Justices to delay matters further.

Justice Amy Coney Barrett got Trump attorney to concede core allegations are private acts.⬇️
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How is Kavanaugh reacting? I hate to say it, but he's done the right thing a time or two.
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Or something along those lines. No laws, right?
https://x.com/BettyBowers/status/1783545335765201180
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Well, that depends on who is President at a given moment. Of course.
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Slim Cognito wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:52 pm How is Kavanaugh reacting? I hate to say it, but he's done the right thing a time or two.
The worst. Started out by talking about how they should send the case back to Chutkin to rule on which charge were private, etc. He also claimed that it was established* fact that Ford's decision to pardon Nixon was the best choice. Not. Really. A-hole.
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raison de arizona wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:47 pm Justice Amy Coney Barrett got Trump attorney to concede core allegations are private acts.
That may be a Pyrrhic victory because the ruling could very well be: "There's no immunity for private acts. Because the indictment contains a mixture of private and official acts, the prosecutor must submit the case again to the grand jury, this time without any evidence of official acts."

Meaning, he'll die (NADT) before the case is tried, appealed, and final.
p0rtia wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:41 pm
Slim Cognito wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:52 pm How is Kavanaugh reacting? I hate to say it, but he's done the right thing a time or two.
The worst. Started out by talking about how they should send the case back to Chutkin to rule on which charge were private, etc.
I'm guessing there are already four votes for this line; would not be surprised if there are five or even six.
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Marc E. Elias @marceelias wrote: I am in shock that a lawyer stood in the U.S Supreme Court and said that a president could assassinate his political opponent and it would be immune as "an official act."

I am in despair that several Justices seemed to think this answer made perfect sense.
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US supreme court eyes returning Trump immunity claim to lower court after arguments
Justices appeared unlikely to grant request for absolute immunity from criminal prosecution to former president

Hugo Lowell and Martin Pengelly in Washington
Thu 25 Apr 2024 19.46 CEST

The US supreme court on Thursday expressed interest in returning Donald Trump’s criminal case over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election back to a lower court to decide whether certain parts of the indictment were “official acts” that were protected by presidential immunity.

During oral arguments, the justices appeared unlikely to grant Trump’s request for absolute immunity from criminal prosecution, with both Trump’s lawyer and the justice department’s lawyer agreeing there were certain private acts that presidents would have no protection for.

But the chief justice, John Roberts, and the conservative justices suggested that presidents should have some level of immunity and would favor the presiding trial judge in the case deciding whether any acts in the indictment were official and should be expunged.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... nity-claim
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Delay, delay, DELAY!
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Aaron Rupar @atrupar wrote: Trump lawyer says that if Trump sold nuclear secrets to a foreign adversary, he couldn't be prosecuted unless he was impeached and convicted first
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Time to make a whole heck of a lot more laws. Or maybe just one that says everything that isn't explicitly legal, is illegal. For the President.
scary lawyerguy @scarylawyerguy wrote: This should be ALL CAPS 72 font banner headlines in every newspaper in America tomorrow but we know from long experience that they'll shrug this off. We're sliding toward autocracy b/c the press either doesn't understand or doesn't care about what Trump is doing.
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:explode:
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I mean, it depends on who the President is though, of course.
Anthony Michael Kreis @AnthonyMKreis wrote: Unbelievable that Supreme Court justices who see forgiving student loans, mandating vaccines, and regulating climate change as a slippery slope toward tyranny were not clear-eyed on questions of whether a president could execute citizens or stage a coup without being prosecuted.
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