Trump called aides hours before Capitol riot to discuss how to stop Biden victory
Trump on the afternoon of 6 January. Multiple sources described Trump’s involvement in the effort to subvert the election result.
Sources tell Guardian Trump pressed lieutenants at Willard hotel in Washington about ways to delay certification of election result
Hugo Lowell in Washington
Tue 30 Nov 2021 07.00 GMT
Hours before the deadly attack on the US Capitol this year, Donald Trump made several calls from the White House to top lieutenants at the Willard hotel in Washington and talked about ways to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s election win from taking place on 6 January.
The former president first told the lieutenants his vice-president, Mike Pence, was reluctant to go along with the plan to commandeer his largely ceremonial role at the joint session of Congress in a way that would allow Trump to retain the presidency for a second term.
But as Trump relayed to them the situation with Pence, he pressed his lieutenants about how to stop Biden’s certification from taking place on 6 January, and delay the certification process to get alternate slates of electors for Trump sent to Congress.
The former president’s remarks came as part of strategy discussions he had from the White House with the lieutenants at the Willard – a team led by Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Boris Epshteyn and Trump strategist Steve Bannon – about delaying the certification.
Multiple sources, speaking to the Guardian on the condition of anonymity, described Trump’s involvement in the effort to subvert the results of the 2020 election.
Trump’s remarks reveal a direct line from the White House and the command center at the Willard. The conversations also show Trump’s thoughts appear to be in line with the motivations of the pro-Trump mob that carried out the Capitol attack and halted Biden’s certification, until it was later ratified by Congress.
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I guess this is the answer to the question why a certain person did not intervene when things went south at the Capitol
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I am still gobsmacked that this isn't the biggest story since Noah and a the Flood.
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The cult won't care.
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A Third Trump Golf Course Appears To Be Violating Law By Using The Presidential Seal
Zach Everson Forbes Staff
Nov 29, 2021,12:20pm EST
A third Trump golf course appears to have deployed the presidential seal as a tee marker, possibly in violation of a federal law.
On Nov. 21, an Instagram user posted a photo showing the presidential seal set in the grass at Florida’s Trump National Golf Club Jupiter. The property joins Trump clubs in the Bronx and New Jersey in possible violation of a law that bars displaying the seal in a manner that could convey the impression of government approval or sponsorship. It’s also illegal to manufacture a likeness of the seal without the government’s authorization. The penalty can be up to six months in prison, although prosecutors have never prioritized charging people who misuse the seal.
The Trump Organization did not respond to requests for comment.
In 2018, “Trump, Inc.,” a podcast from ProPublica and WNYC, uncovered a batch of markers similar to the ones that have appeared at Trump properties over the past few months. The Trump Organization blamed the incident on diehard supporters at the time and quickly removed the markers. “The plaques were presented to the club by a small group of members, who are incredible fans of the president, in honor of Presidents’ Day weekend,” the business said in a 2018 statement to the podcast. “They were temporary and have since been removed.”
“Trump Inc.” identified Eagle Sign and Design, a metalworking and sign company in the Louisville, Kentucky-area, as the marker’s manufacturer. The owner of B Sign Group, which acquired Eagle Sign and Design, did not immediately reply to an inquiry.
Trump retained a 100% interest in Trump National Golf Club Jupiter when he became president. Trump has been spotted at the club a few times while living 20 miles south at Mar-a-Lago.
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Trump promotes lies about Ilhan Omar and suggests she apologize for 'abandoning' Somalia, which she fled as a child
Bryan Metzger,Grace Panetta
Tue, November 30, 2021, 8:18 PM·3 min read
Former President Donald Trump released a lie-filled statement on Tuesday demanding that Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota apologize for "abandoning her former country."
- Trump released a lie-filled statement about Omar in the wake of Boebert's Islamophobic comments.
"Ilhan Omar should apologize ... for essentially abandoning her former country," he wrote.
Boebert could face censure by the House of Representatives after a phone call with Omar went awry.
"Congresswoman Ilhan Omar should apologize for marrying her brother, committing large-scale immigration and election fraud, wishing death to Israel, and for essentially abandoning her former country, which doesn't even have a government — Exactly what she'd like to see for the United States," Trump said in his statement.
The Minnesota congress member, a Somali American refugee, was born in Somalia in 1982. Omar, along with her father and her siblings, secured asylum in the US in 1995, when she was a child.
In a July 2019 tweet, Trump told Omar and three of her fellow Democratic congresswomen to "go back and fix the broken and crime-infested places from which they came" — even though all four are US citizens and Omar is the only one who was born outside the US.
The unsubstantiated rumors that Omar's ex-husband Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, a British national, is her brother and that she married him to help him get a green card circulated around the internet and right-wing blogs for years before the former president brought them up Tuesday.
Omar has called the rumors "absurd and offensive" and released a lengthy statement and timeline of her marriage history in 2016.
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People Think Kayleigh McEnany's Latest Attack On Joe Biden Must Be Satire
Lee Moran
Tue, November 30, 2021, 2:15 PM·1 min read
Kayleigh McEnany, a White House press secretary under Donald Trump, defied belief with her latest claim about President Joe Biden.
McEnany, who is now a co-host on Fox News’ “Outnumbered” show, on Monday accused Biden of politicizing COVID-19. “No one has politicized this virus more than President Joe Biden,” she claimed.
She shared this tweet from Fox News promoting her comments:
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Just another confirmation of what we already knew. Trump had covid during the first debate and showed up anyway.
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When does Meadows' book come out? Not that I care to read it, but I assume there's got to be a book tour and he can't just show up on Fox to promote it. I'd sure like to see Nicolle Wallace give him the same treatment she gave Christie.
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same as reported in the NYT
Trump Tested Positive for Virus Days Before Debate, 2 Ex-Officials Say
The former president first received a positive coronavirus test days ahead of his first debate with Joseph R. Biden Jr., and then received a negative result, two former officials say.
By Maggie Haberman
Dec. 1, 2021 Updated 12:33 p.m. ET
President Donald J. Trump tested positive for coronavirus three days before his first debate with Joseph R. Biden Jr. in 2020, two former administration officials said Wednesday.
The White House did not announce the positive test at the time, and the president received a negative result shortly afterward and carried on with a campaign rally and the debate, the officials said. The account was first reported by The Guardian, which cited a forthcoming book by Mr. Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows.
The two former officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, confirmed the timeline on Mr. Trump’s test results contained in “The Chief’s Chief,” by Mr. Meadows, Mr. Trump’s fourth and final White House chief of staff.
The revelation came nearly a year after widespread speculation that Mr. Trump was sick when he first shared a stage with Mr. Biden for their first presidential debate on Sept. 29, months into the pandemic.
The White House declined repeatedly at the time to give a precise chronology of when precisely Mr. Trump first received a positive coronavirus test result. The administration first told the public in the early hours of Oct. 2 that Mr. Trump had tested positive. Mr. Trump was hospitalized later that same day.
Mr. Trump’s positive result was revealed only after a top adviser, Hope Hicks, was reported to be sick with Covid-19. At the time, Mr. Trump intimated in an interview with Fox News that Ms. Hicks might have given him the virus.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/01/us/p ... itive.html?
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“Trump knowingly exposed Joe Biden, half of his Cabinet, numerous reporters, Gold Star families, and the entire crew of Air Force One to COVID.
Here’s why that’s bad news for Joe Biden”
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The more I learn about this planet, the more improbable it all seems.
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A very Donald Christmas.
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Works for me.
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Donald Trump accuses Meghan of ‘disrespecting the Queen and manipulating Prince Harry’
Harry has been used and has hurt his family, former president claims in Farage interview
Jake Kanter
Thursday December 02 2021, 12.00am, The Times
Donald Trump has criticised the Duchess of Sussex for being disrespectful towards the Queen and called Boris Johnson’s wind power plans “ridiculous” in his first overseas interview since being unseated as US president.
In a coup for GB News, Trump sat down with Nigel Farage for a conversation in which he repeatedly rehashed debunked arguments about the “rigged” 2020 election and bemoaned America’s standing on the world stage under President Biden. He criticised Biden for removing a Winston Churchill bust from his White House office.
Trump has a long friendship with Farage and the former Ukip leader secured the fledgling channel access to him after weeks of negotiations.
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I just finished reading this - it's very good!RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:18 amBetrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show by Jonathan Karl review – a tyrant’s last stand
The ABC News correspondent offers a sobering glimpse of a man unfit to govern and the chaos wreaked by an ego unable to grasp its own ineptitude
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/ ... last-stand
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I concur. After that book I read Norm MacDonald's "autobiography" and now I'm jumping into Peril.Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:30 amI just finished reading this - it's very good!RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:18 amBetrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show by Jonathan Karl review – a tyrant’s last stand
The ABC News correspondent offers a sobering glimpse of a man unfit to govern and the chaos wreaked by an ego unable to grasp its own ineptitude
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/ ... last-stand
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Every time you think he's reached the bottom, he digs deeper.
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Peril is quite good as well. I'd recommend both for anyone interested in Trump's final year. Obviously, there's a fair amount of overlap between the two, but each has enough unique reporting to make it worthwhile to read both.
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Let me see if I get this straight. They took an initial test which the WH doctor confirmed was a positive and then they reused the swab to take a second test that was then negative and then didn't get another test done? Wouldn't reusing the swab kind of lower the efficacy of the test?
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My understanding is that their story is that a test three days before the debate was positive, but two subsequent tests prior to the debate came back negative. Then positive again shortly after the debate.Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:40 pmLet me see if I get this straight. They took an initial test which the WH doctor confirmed was a positive and then they reused the swab to take a second test that was then negative and then didn't get another test done? Wouldn't reusing the swab kind of lower the efficacy of the test?
I haven't heard anything about reusing swabs, but that would be stupid.
But then, they are stupid, so
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Reusing swabs seems unlikely, the swab is the part that goes to the lab. Of course only with a full PCR test. Not sure of the procedure with the quick test.
ETA. this:
in Rapid coronavirus tests: a guide for the perplexed https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00332-4These speedy tests, which typically mix nasal or throat swabs with liquid on a paper strip to return results within half an hour, are thought of as tests of infectiousness, not of infection. They can detect only high viral loads, so they will miss many people with lower levels of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. But the hope is that they will help to curb the pandemic by quickly identifying the most contagious people, who might otherwise unknowingly pass on the virus.
would suggest that with rapid antigen tests a swab could be reused by an idiot medical person.
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But, but, but...he WAS positive. He ended up in the freakin' hospital a few days later so we know the first one was the accurate result and the second the false negative. How is that fake news?
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It's those pesky alternative facts, never know when those will conveniently crop up.
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