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Rolodex wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:15 pm The Middle East is such a confusing and complicated place that I tend to zone it out. Add to that all the disinfo as exemplified in posts above.

Did Israel give a reason as to why they attacked the embassy?
When one hears that they eliminated high ranking members of the Republican Guard there is no extra explanation required. Those guys were running the spy network within Syria and Lebanon and directed the support of the Hezbollah.

PS. while formally "the embassy", the operation was run out of a separate building on the embassy compound. Israel surgically only demolished that annex, not the embassy proper.
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Oh, if they only demolished the Embassy Annex and not the Embassy proper then that is weird that Iran would have a problem with it.
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Volkonski wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:25 pm :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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יאיר לפיד - Yair Lapid
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This morning we thank our friends across the world, led by the United States and
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Biden, who stood by us and helped protect the people of Israel.

The world is strongest when we stand united against the threat of terror, extremism and the fanatical regime in Iran.
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‘Delusional’: Bolton blasts Trump for saying Iranian attacks wouldn’t have happened on his watch
“It’s a point that nobody can refute or confirm one way or the other. He doesn’t have any idea what to do in the Middle East in this situation,” John Bolton said.


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/1 ... s-00152132
Former President Donald Trump told supporters Saturday that Iran’s attack on Israel over the weekend “would not have happened if we were in office.” His former national security adviser says it was a ridiculous statement.

“I just think Trump is delusional on this point,” John Bolton said during an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday. “It’s a point that nobody can refute or confirm one way or the other. He doesn’t have any idea what to do in the Middle East in this situation.”

At a rally in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania, Trump said that both Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack and the Iranian aerial attacks on Israel “would not have happened if we were in office,” casting blame on what he described as President Joe Biden’s “weakness” abroad. He has previously said that about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
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Xposting

https://twitter.com/JSchanzer/status/17 ... 3862220175
Jonathan Schanzer (@JSchanzer)

Talking to European friends in various government positions, there has been an overnight shift in views on the Middle East.

After recoiling from the images out of Gaza for weeks (even months), there is now wide recognition that this entire thing has been engineered by Iran.

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Not sure if it has already been mentioned:

All of Iranian drones of various kinds were shot down before they reached Israel.

All of Iranian cruise missiles were shot down before reaching any target.

All but 3 ballistic missiles got destroyed before reaching any targets. The three ballistic missiles hit random points at the Negev airfield. Satellite imagerry suggest one taxiway may have taken a superficial hit, one maintenance building may have taken some damage from a nearby explosion, while the third churned up some desert patch.

Number of object sent to Israel vary between 200 to an upper of 300.

(above info as harvested from the internet)
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Kind of an odd thing to say.
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One side effect of the Israeli attack on the embassy in Syria was that they forced the hands of Iran: with the strike they can decuct the quality of the Iranian future threats. It gives insight into the Iranian technological prowess (or lack thereof). It's likely difficult to tell what part of the Iranian arsenal was actually used up in this strike, but the replacement will take some time. Of course there is a certain danger there. Iran may have used its oldest generation and the stock in hiding may have more potential. Also too, they may replace the emtpy stock with a more modern and better generation of flying monkeys.

To add one of my thoughts - Iran was posed with a difficult task to retaliate in a form that met the approval of their voters. While they had a bad loss of intelligence knowledge and contacts with the premature demise of the upper echelons among the Republican Guard, the physical damage was very limited. Attempting to bombard Israel in the manner they did sent a message with little damage in the end. One of the political leadership in Teheran said they would not pursue any other measures. I believe Israel will let gras grow over the event, I don't expect any further action from their side.

I would predict that the general failure of this attack will persuade the Hizbollah in Lebanon to lie low as it has been demonstrated that their masters are unable to back them up if things turn nasty. Even the Hutis in Yemen may get the message.
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opinion piece
Iran’s missiles were shot down – but they still delivered what Tehran was hoping for
The attack exposed the limits of the US’s willingness to be dragged into a wider conflict. This may moderate Israel’s next move

Esfandyar Batmanghelidj
Mon 15 Apr 2024 11.05 CEST

Earlier this month, after an Israeli airstrike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus killed several military commanders, Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, used his sermon to mark Eid al-Fitr to equate Israel’s attack on the diplomatic facility to an attack on Iranian soil, and vowed that Israel’s “mistake” would be punished. At just that moment, the broadcast of the sermon cut to a face in the crowd – Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh. Hajizadeh commands the aerospace forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). His grin was knowing.

A few days later, on Sunday, 300 drones and long-range missiles were launched from Iran toward Israel. The attack marked the first time Iran had attacked Israel directly from its own territory, rather than relying on its proxies in Iraq, Syria or Lebanon. Though Israeli jets and air defences responded, with the support of American, British, French and Jordanian forces, and successfully intercepted most of the drones and missiles, the spectacle of missiles flying above the Dome of the Rock – the third holiest shrine in Islam – seemed to portend a full-blown war.



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Israel launched an attack on Iran. Great.
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Rueters: Israeli missiles hit site in Iran, ABC News reports:
Israeli missiles have hit a site in Iran, ABC News reported late on Thursday, citing a U.S. official, days after Iran launched a drone strike on Israel in response to an attack at the Iranian embassy in Syria.

Iran's Fars news agency said an explosion were heard at an airport in the Iranian city of Isafahan but the cause was not immediately known. Several Iranian nuclear sites are located in Isfahan province, including Natanz, centerpiece of Iran’s uranium enrichment program.
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