Roger Stone

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p0rtia · #352

Volkonski wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:17 pm Looks like he is wearing a shrunken head.

Or a death mask.

#353

Seeing a lot of this. Stone recorded talking about death to Swalwell and/or Nadler.

#354

More

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ie-mediate

The Republican operative and close Donald Trump ally Roger Stone reportedly told an associate one of two prominent Democratic congressmen “ha[d] to die before the election” in 2020.

“It’s time to do it,” Stone said, according to Mediaite, which cited a recording the outlet reported was made at a Florida restaurant.

“Let’s go find Swalwell. It’s time to do it. Then we’ll see how brave the rest of them are. It’s time to do it. It’s either Nadler or Swalwell has to die before the election. They need to get the message. Let’s go find Swalwell and get this over with. I’m just not putting up with this shit any more.”

Eric Swalwell, from California, and Jerry Nadler, from New York, are both members of the House judiciary committee.

Swalwell is a prominent anti-Trump voice and a magnet for Republican attacks. As judiciary chair, Nadler oversaw Trump’s first impeachment, for seeking political dirt in Ukraine.

John Thomas8 · #355

There's a crime in that gobblygook isn't there?

Slim Cognito · #356

Reading on, Stone says the voice was generated via AI, but that can be verified, yes?

Resume18 · #357

I believe Roger Stone is AI.

Chilidog · #358

Resume18 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:16 pm I believe Roger Stone is AI.

Amalgamated Ignorance

#359

Flashback.

Enough! @StopTrumpTerror wrote: Have you heard Roger Stone threatening to send the Proud Boys after Ted Lieu?

Maybenaut · #360

John Thomas8 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:14 pm There's a crime in that gobblygook isn't there?

Possibly. The law is exceptionally nuanced in this area.

In most places, a threat requires that the statement was willfully made with the intent to threaten; that it was made to another person; that it was intended to be understood as a threat; that the threatener had the present ability to carry out the threat; and a reasonable person would be put in fear by the threat.

So the words are going to matter, and what was in his head are going to matter. I can see a prosecutor not wanting to press this. Stone and the other guy would likely say he was only joking, nobody took it seriously, etc.

John Thomas8 · #361

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:43 pm
John Thomas8 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:14 pm There's a crime in that gobblygook isn't there?
Possibly. The law is exceptionally nuanced in this area.

In most places, a threat requires that the statement was willfully made with the intent to threaten; that it was made to another person; that it was intended to be understood as a threat; that the threatener had the present ability to carry out the threat; and a reasonable person would be put in fear by the threat.

So the words are going to matter, and what was in his head are going to matter. I can see a prosecutor not wanting to press this. Stone and the other guy would likely say he was only joking, nobody took it seriously, etc.

I was hoping his "body of work" would make it obvious he wasn't joking but I can see a DA not bothering. Given what's happening to judges and other DAs in cases with magants, I'd be hesitant, too.

bob · #362

Maybenaut wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:43 pmSo the words are going to matter, and what was in his head are going to matter. I can see a prosecutor not wanting to press this. Stone and the other guy would likely say he was only joking, nobody took it seriously, etc.

Too also, and for similar reasons, there also was no conspiracy.

Rolodex · #363

#364

Oh my. The dirty, Dirty Trickster.

Ben-Prime · #365

I am assuming his earlier pardon by TFG was not broad enough to cover any offense this constitutes.And I am glad of it.

bob · #366

Ben-Prime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:01 pm I am assuming his earlier pardon by TFG was not broad enough to cover any offense this constitutes.And I am glad of it.

Stone's pardon was specific to his conviction.

As if it was drafted by the Office of People Who Know How to Pardon (and not White House toadies).

Ben-Prime · #367

bob wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:04 pm
Ben-Prime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:01 pm I am assuming his earlier pardon by TFG was not broad enough to cover any offense this constitutes.And I am glad of it.
Stone's pardon was specific to his conviction.

As if it was drafted by the Office of People Who Know How to Pardon (and not White House toadies).

Yeah, you can see how I might have wondered whether it was just written as:

"Roger Stone did nothing wrong."

and signed by TFG.

Slim Cognito · #368

My best guess is the whole damn thing was handwritten with a sharpie

#369

My bromance with Roger Stone continues (see Laura Loomer topic). Roger is now following me on X and we're pals.

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Who should Trump pick for Vice President?
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Luke Johnson

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My vote is for you, Roger. You know what it takes to win. But if not, Devin Nunes. Matt Gaetz or Mike Flynn. Saw this about George Santos but he seems a little risky.

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