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And now there seems to be another video with Bridget.
A second video has been recovered by police showing Bridget Ziegler, a cofounder of the conservative Moms for Liberty, engaging in sexual relations with a woman, sources said. It is not known if the woman in the video is the same woman who has alleged she was sexually assaulted by Christian Ziegler. Neither Christian nor Bridget Ziegler have responded to requests for comment from the Trident.
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She is apparently not aware there is no N in LGBTQ.
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The frustrating thing is that it seems very few GOPers have an issue with hypocrisy. They are incapable of shame - or maybe even awareness.
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While I share everyone's pleasure in the downfall of the awful Zieglers, I'm concerned about the release of information about the second video.

What connection does it have with the criminal investigation of the alleged rape? And for that matter, has there been a charge?

I guess it's naive to expect that a local Florida police department would observe the same standards that United States Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald followed in the Scooter Libby prosecution, namely remaining silent about the investigations except to the extent they are revealed in indictments and the course of the prosecution.

But the release of this information seems particularly gratuitous.
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Rolodex wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:12 pm The frustrating thing is that it seems very few GOPers have an issue with hypocrisy. They are incapable of shame - or maybe even awareness.
Well, yeah. Their ethos is centred around who, not what... who is the actor and what is their place within the community, not what is the action.
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Cops recover second sex video involving scandal-plagued Moms for Liberty leader: report

Brad Reed
December 22, 2023 9:39AM ET

Police have reportedly recovered a second sex video involving Bridget Ziegler, a leader of the Moms for Liberty group that is dedicated to banning books that purportedly contain sexually explicit content from schools.

The Florida Trident reports that police recovered the video while investigating rape accusations against her husband, Christian Ziegler, who earlier this month was suspended from his role as Florida Republican Party chairman.

Sources tell the Florida Trident that the new video involves the Moms for Liberty leader "engaging in sexual relations with a woman," although it's not known at this point whether it's with the same woman who accused her husband of raping her.

"In response to a specific public record request for that video, the Sarasota Police Department on Thursday asserted the video was exempt from disclosure due to the ongoing criminal investigation," writes the Trident. "The video, according to sources, was obtained by police after a search warrant was executed on Christian Ziegler’s cell phone and Google account in November to recover evidence in connection with the alleged rape."




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Scared Ketchup Moms for Liberty edition.

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The irony of her fame being tied to banning sex-related WORDS as she is making sex videos is almost too much to bear. It's even better than the homophobes getting caught in same-sex situations.
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[alt_facts]The Book of Hypocrites has always be available in print in several volumes as far back as Gutenberg. It wasn't until the invention of microfiche that an average person could actually carry them all at once. [/alt_facts]
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bill_g wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:25 am Image
Heh. I know this is a joke, but the swinger community can be pretty right wing and the kink community has a pretty strong 'traditional values' contingent who would fit in just fine with them.
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A parody site explains the benefits of hiring Clarice Schillinger to plan your child's underage drinking party. Chatbots are standing by to schedule your event!

Former GOP lieutenant governor candidate and schools activist charged with punching teen at boozy Bucks party

Clarice Schillinger, who once ran for lieutenant governor, is accused of punching a guest at her daughter’s 17th birthday party.

Definitely Mother of the Year material.
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I'm convinced the effort these people put into attacking liberals, gays, trans folk, et al., is primarily, maybe even only, to distract from their own transgressions.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:06 pm I'm convinced the effort these people put into attacking liberals, gays, trans folk, et al., is primarily, maybe even only, to distract from their own transgressions.
Amen to that.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:06 pm I'm convinced the effort these people put into attacking liberals, gays, trans folk, et al., is primarily, maybe even only, to distract from their own transgressions.
I think it is less about distraction, and more about responding to what they see as people acting above their station. Transgressions are a privilege and a sign of status, the higher up the chain you are the more 'taboo' you are afforded.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:06 pm
I'm convinced the effort these people put into attacking liberals, gays, trans folk, et al., is primarily, maybe even only, to distract from their own transgressions.
:winner:

Well DUH!
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neeneko wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 7:18 pm Heh. I know this is a joke, but the swinger community can be pretty right wing and the kink community has a pretty strong 'traditional values' contingent who would fit in just fine with them.
Well, Rodger Stone and his wife are both VERY well known as being swingers. And yes, there's an odd right wing element in the kink community - and the polyamory community as well.

"Freedom for me but not for thee" it seems.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:06 pm I'm convinced the effort these people put into attacking liberals, gays, trans folk, et al., is primarily, maybe even only, to distract from their own transgressions.
Not even counting the right wing gays and lesbians. Or even right wing transgender people like Caitlyn Jenner. It's like "what part of 'they don't like you and want you dead' are you NOT understanding???"
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To be fair, the woman who founded Klanned Karenhood may not consider herself as bisexual, or that any sexy funtimes she had with another woman was really sex. There's a belief (and even a research paper) that same-sex behavior between women evolved as a way of turning on men, and has nothing to do with actual sexual orientation.

I remain dubious.

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shannon wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:36 pm To be fair, the woman who founded Klanned Karenhood may not consider herself as bisexual, or that any sexy funtimes she had with another woman was really sex. There's a belief (and even a research paper) that same-sex behavior between women evolved as a way of turning on men, and has nothing to do with actual sexual orientation.

I remain dubious.

The evolution of same-sex attraction: Exploring women's willingness to have sex with other women in order to satisfy their partners
Somewhere in one of the stories the victim said she was interested only in the founder, not the husband. Sounded like he was baggage to the victim.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:24 pm Somewhere in one of the stories the victim said she was interested only in the founder, not the husband. Sounded like he was baggage to the victim.
It wouldn't be a big surprise if Bridget Ziegler's anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric was due to her own internalized fear of her own same-sex attraction and feelings.
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That or she just gets her jollies from causing harm to other.
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Dave from down under wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:38 am That or she just gets her jollies from causing harm to other.
One doesn't exclude the other.
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