Great Lakes Shipping History

RTH10260 · #26

Film crew accidentally discovers 1800s shipwreck off Lake Huron in Ontario

CTV News
30 Nov 2023 ONTARIO

Bruce Peninsula divers find 1800's shipwreck by accident while filing documentary on invasive mussels.

possibly steam ship Africa, sunk Oct 1895

John Thomas8 · #27

Speaking of 1800s ship wrecks, Tim Wollack and his daughter found the George L. Neman, lost in 1871.

https://www.kktv.com/2023/12/15/father- ... -together/

#28

Remember folks like Gavin who managed to piss off veterans by flying and upside flag as a political statement (they are in "political distress" or something)? Here is the proper use of an upside flag on the J.H. Rutter back in 1878 (near Ludington, Michigan).

John Thomas8 · #29

Very sad:

#30

northland10 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:47 am Remember folks like Gavin who managed to piss off veterans by flying and upside flag as a political statement (they are in "political distress" or something)? Here is the proper use of an upside flag on the J.H. Rutter back in 1878 (near Ludington, Michigan).

I looked that up. Amazing story. And didn't notice at first the crew clinging to the masts.

#31

northland10 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:47 am Remember folks like Gavin who managed to piss off veterans by flying and upside flag as a political statement (they are in "political distress" or something)? Here is the proper use of an upside flag on the J.H. Rutter back in 1878 (near Ludington, Michigan).

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I typed an incorrect middle initial when I googled the name of the ship and was briefly puzzled by google's response.

#32

chancery wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:17 pm
northland10 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:47 am Remember folks like Gavin who managed to piss off veterans by flying and upside flag as a political statement (they are in "political distress" or something)? Here is the proper use of an upside flag on the J.H. Rutter back in 1878 (near Ludington, Michigan).

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I typed an incorrect middle initial when I googled the name of the ship and was briefly puzzled by google's response.

#33

It's all about the bass (and the wonderful perfect fifth of her horns).

#34

My password to my previous phone contained a perfect fifth and Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony opening line and my father’s birthday - all the same 4 keys.

Volkonski · #35

One of those ships should play the opening of "Also Sprach Zarathustra".

#36

Volkonski wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:31 am

One of those ships should play the opening of "Also Sprach Zarathustra".

The closest I can get is the upgraded Arthur M. Anderson.

It was posted on 1 April 2022 so it might not be entirely accurate.

RTH10260 · #37

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I guess it is a April 1 joke, I just looked for some background info and all pictures I have seen show the blue to be actually a weathered red.

#38

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:05 pm
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I guess it is a April 1 joke, I just looked for some background info and all pictures I have seen show the blue to be actually a weathered red.

It's a boatnerd April Fools joke. The Arthur M. Anderson is a well-known ship on the lake, partly due to its proximity to the Edmund Fitzgerald when it went down.

RTH10260 · #39

#40

Another ship and version.

#41

No longer in use due to the development of self-unloaders. I remember these in the opening of the movie Major League.

#42

Loading coal onto a ship in Sandusky, Ohio. The maker of the video is using a drone to show how it works.

The one before the above is not shipping but here is the video about how they empty coal cars. I am fascinated with the 80-year technology being used.

Reddog · #43

Wow! Amazing, I thought rotary dump gondolas were fascinating; but this technology predates that by 40 years. Those are obviously non-rotating coal gondolas. Around here all coal trains are rotating.

RTH10260 · #44

nifty way to deboard while underway

first minute in the background

#45

Cool. I've seen some nifty entries, too.

Suranis · #46

Caitlin Doughty did a documentery on Lake Superior and why it "Never gives up it's dead." the Edmund Fitzgerald is talked about in part of it. Pretty interesting stuff.

#47

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:41 pm nifty way to deboard while underway first minute in the background

https: //youtu.be/_jkxclPoTmg?

I think that while lock's name is pronounced 'Soo' it should be properly spelt 'Sault'.

Or did they officially change the name of the locks?

I truly don't know, I just always assumed the locks were spelt 'Sault'.

Suranis · #48

Nice video on what its like to serve as Crew on a Ship on the Great Lakes.

And for fans of Horns...

#49

keith wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:08 am
RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:41 pm nifty way to deboard while underway first minute in the background

https: //youtu.be/_jkxclPoTmg?
I think that while lock's name is pronounced 'Soo' it should be properly spelt 'Sault'.

Or did they officially change the name of the locks?

I truly don't know, I just always assumed the locks were spelt 'Sault'.

The Army Corps of Engineers who operate the US locks are using the Anglicized spelling, Soo. I don't know why but they are.

The recreational lock on the Canada side operated by the city of Sault Ste. Marie, CA, refer to that lock as the Sault Canal Lock.

So, basically both spellings are correct, and it means, rapids.

RTH10260 · #50

"Soo" seems the name used in the quick search I used

PS.

on the reengineering of the Soo locks, 50+ years old and had a predicted lifespan of 50 years:

Behind The Scenes: New Soo Lock Construction

and

New Lock at the Soo Construction Sequencing video