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Beware of the rise of Arizona's unholy Christian nationalists
Opinion: They don't seem to understand that we can have a United States of America or we can have a Christian nationalist nation but, according to our Constitution, we can't have both.
EJ Montini - Arizona Republic

At first hardly anyone took notice of the Christian nationalist “Pine Tree” flag that was on display on the second floor lobby of the Arizona State Capitol in January.

Versions of that same flag appeared alongside the stars and bars flags of the Confederacy, large crucifixation crosses and Trump banners during the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The flag at the Arizona Capitol finally got a little attention after the good folks at Secular AZ pointed it out in a blog post.

The group’s legal director wrote a letter to House Speaker Rusty Bowers saying in part, “This flag alienates both those committed to a proper separation of church and state, and those concerned about religiously inspired violent attacks on our democracy and our public officials.”

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raison de arizona wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:14 pm

Beware of the rise of Arizona's unholy Christian nationalists
Opinion: They don't seem to understand that we can have a United States of America or we can have a Christian nationalist nation but, according to our Constitution, we can't have both.
EJ Montini - Arizona Republic

At first hardly anyone took notice of the Christian nationalist “Pine Tree” flag that was on display on the second floor lobby of the Arizona State Capitol in January.

Versions of that same flag appeared alongside the stars and bars flags of the Confederacy, large crucifixation crosses and Trump banners during the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The flag at the Arizona Capitol finally got a little attention after the good folks at Secular AZ pointed it out in a blog post.

The group’s legal director wrote a letter to House Speaker Rusty Bowers saying in part, “This flag alienates both those committed to a proper separation of church and state, and those concerned about religiously inspired violent attacks on our democracy and our public officials.”

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https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion ... 612252002/

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A survey conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute and the Brookings Institution found that found more than half of Republicans believe the US should be a strictly Christian nation, adhering to the ideals of Christian nationalism or sympathizing with those views.

Resume18 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:56 am

A survey conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute and the Brookings Institution found that found more than half of Republicans believe the US should be a strictly Christian nation, adhering to the ideals of Christian nationalism or sympathizing with those views.

Jesus Christ, these people scare me.

Revealed: documents shed light on shadowy US far-right fraternal order
New documents detail inner workings of Society for American Civic Renewal, group with an emphasis on Christian nationalism

Jason Wilson
Tue 19 Mar 2024 12.00 CET

New documents have shed light on the origins and inner workings of the shadowy Society for American Civic Renewal (SACR), including methods for judging the beliefs of potential members on topics such as Christian nationalism, and indications that its founders sought inspiration in an apartheid-era South African white men-only group, the Afrikaner-Broederbond.

They also show that Boise State University Professor and Claremont thinktank scholar Scott Yenor tried to coordinate SACR’s activities with other initiatives, including an open letter on “Christian marriage”.

One expert says that one of the new documents – some previously reported in Talking Points Memo – use biblical references that suggest a preparedness for violent struggle against the current “regime”.

The SACR is a secretive far-right men-only organization with an emphasis on Christian nationalism and a desire to open branches across the US.

The Guardian has previously reported on SACR’s close links to the Claremont Institute, an influential rightwing thinktank with fellows who have participated in attempts to overturn the 2020 election and promoted the idea that an authoritarian “Red Caesar” might redeem a US republic they see as decadent.

SACR’s origins appear to date to the latter half of 2020, with key milestones in the group’s development coming over the following 18 months.

And there are indications that the inner circle of the group sought inspiration from earlier iterations of Christian nationalism in authoritarian states.

As previously reported in the Guardian, Skyler Kressin, a tax consultant based in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, appears to play a central administrative role in SACR. Idaho and Texas company records show that Kressin incorporated lodges in Boise, Coeur d’Alene and Dallas; serves as a director of the Coeur d’Alene and Dallas lodges; and was named as the principal officer of the parent organization on its 2020-21 tax return.

On 30 October 2020, Kressin wrote an email to Yenor with the question “that good?”, along with a screenshot of an Amazon listing for Super-Afrikaners, a book by the investigative journalists Ivor Wilkins and Hans Strydom.

First published in 1978, Super-Afrikaners exposed the workings of South Africa’s Broederbond, a secretive, exclusive, men-only network that promoted the interests of white Afrikaners in that country and which is credited with a significant role in bringing the National party – the architects of apartheid – to power.



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... order-sacr

p0rtia wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:13 pm
This is my once a year post on the media's cluelessness when it comes to atheism. A-theism, dudes; not a subset of theisms.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:13 pm "Unaffiliated?"

Who's making these choices these days.

Does "Unaffiliated" mean Christian but not belonging to a denomination?

Does it mean "Atheists and agnostics?"

WTF? Why can't the category say, "Percent of the population that does not believe in supernatural deities" or some such.

Such supposed research that falls flat on its face right out of the gate by failing to define its terms in the damn graph drives me nuts. They can't even define "religion." Or rather, they pretend to define it as it it most often thoughtlessly defined. A practice that always leads to "religious" being confused with "ethical/moral".

This is my once a year post on the media's cluelessness when it comes to atheism. A-theism, dudes; not a subset of theisms.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:26 pm Thanks. I do understand that. I just find it ignorant (the way of categorizing "religions", not you <3).

Sort of like how one used to find "women" lumped in with "minorities" in various socioeconomic breakdowns. Or was it "Women and other minorities". The bias just screams.

northland10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:37 pm
They categorize us Anglicans as Protestants even though we like to think we are Protestant and Catholic (however, not Roman Catholic). Okay, we are a bit odd.

northland10 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:37 pm

p0rtia wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:26 pm Thanks. I do understand that. I just find it ignorant (the way of categorizing "religions", not you <3).

Sort of like how one used to find "women" lumped in with "minorities" in various socioeconomic breakdowns. Or was it "Women and other minorities". The bias just screams.

They categorize us Anglicans as Protestants even though we like to think we are Protestant and Catholic (however, not Roman Catholic). Okay, we are a bit odd.

Suranis wrote:It behaves pretty much as a religion. It has its Profits, clergy, fanatics and theology that must not be questioned. It has people who are really dogmatic and attack you if you bring up a fact that threatens their world view. If Atheism is not a religion it's doing a very good job of pretending to be.

Suranis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 3:36 pm I just realised I spelled "Prophets" as "Profits." I didn't actually mean to do that!

Those Freudian slips are getting clever.

Suranis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:42 pm It [atheism]behaves pretty much as a religion. It has its Profits, clergy, fanatics and theology that must not be questioned. It has people who are really dogmatic and attack you if you bring up a fact that threatens their world view. If Atheism is not a religion it's doing a very good job of pretending to be.