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VCDL Lobby Day FAQs-

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HNe ... dFDGM/edit
Monday, January 20, is VCDL's Lobby Day. It is not VCDL's Protest Day.

There is a distinct difference between the two.

Lobby Day is about, well, lobbying - sending a message to the General Assembly and to the Governor, Attorney General, and the Lt. Governor. That message is simple: no more gun control that in any way, shape, or form negatively affects law-abiding gun owners. Bills that go after criminals or bills that are beneficial to gun owners are fine.

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Various militia groups from Virginia and nearby states have graciously volunteered to provide security. With a large Capitol, Richmond, and State police presence, not to mention enough citizens armed with handguns to take over a modern mid-sized country, we have the security base covered nicely. That said, we welcome our militia brothers and sisters to be part of making the day a success! Some militia groups are looking to take canned food donations during Lobby Day and deliver them to a Richmond Food Bank.
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The Speakers at the 11 AM rally-

Stephen Willeford stopped a massacre at a church in Texas

Antonia Oakafor trains women college students to be able to protect themselves with a firearm

Dick Heller from the landmark U.S. Supreme Court case of DC v. Heller

Dr. Veronica Slootzsky, a psychiatrist in Northern Virginia

Cam Edwards, Bearing Arms and host of the Cam & Co Youtube channel

Jeff Katz, talkshow host on Richmond's powerhouse radio station WRVA

Erich Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America

Sheriff Scott Jenkins of Culpeper County, willing to deputize thousands if necessary to save their gun rights

Sheriff Danny Diggs of York County, pledging to stand strong against infringements on the right to keep and bear arms

Anthony Myers, gun-rights activist from Suffolk

Senator Amanda Chase

Delegate Nick Freitas

Delegate John McGuire
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PRE-LOBBY DAY DINNER: Sunday, January 19th 6:00 pm! If you plan to attend, please email Bob Sadtler at bob.sadtler@VCDL.org. To make it easy to tally, please put the number in your party in the subject line.


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There was a VCDL Lobby Day on January 16, 2017. Not a huge crowd but pending gun control legislation may bring more people out.

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This related to the emergency declaration?

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Jeffrey wrote:
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This related to the emergency declaration?
Yes, this is the event that the declaration is about.
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PRE-LOBBY DAY DINNER: Sunday, January 19th 6:00 pm! If you plan to attend, please email Bob Sadtler at bob.sadtler@VCDL.org. To make it easy to tally, please put the number in your party in the subject line.


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Virginia Declares State of Emergency After Armed Militias Threaten to Storm the Capitol
The governor said law enforcement had intercepted “extremist rhetoric” similar to the lead-up to Charlottesville days before pro-gun activists are holding a rally.
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In response to what he described as “credible intelligence” of threats of violence at an upcoming gun rights rally in Richmond, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam has declared a state of emergency and will temporarily ban individuals from carrying firearms on Capitol grounds.

The governor said at a press conference Wednesday that authorities believe “armed militia groups plan to storm the Capitol” during the January 20 rally.

He also said that law enforcement had intercepted threats and “extremist rhetoric” similar to what was observed prior to the violent Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in August 2017. “We will not allow that mayhem and violence to happen here,” he said.

The decision to ban all weapons, including firearms, won’t sit well with the thousands of gun lovers who are expected to descend on Richmond to participate in what was billed as an open-carry affair and an opportunity to flex Second Amendment rights.

“No weapons will be allowed on Capitol grounds,” said Northam, a Democrat. “Everything from sticks and bats to chains and projectiles…. The list also includes firearms. It makes no sense to ban every other weapon but allow firearms when intelligence shows that armed militia groups plan to storm the Capitol.”

On the Facebook page for the rally, several attendees are already saying they won’t comply and leave their weapons at home — even though Richmond Mayor Levar Stoney has vowed a hard line on rule-breakers. “Violations of the law will not be tolerated,” Stoney said.

The January 20 event, dubbed “Lobby Day,” was organized by the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a pro-Second Amendment nonprofit, in response to new gun control legislation introduced by the Democratic state Legislature. Northam acknowledged that the organizers had been planning the rally for some time. “I believe them when they say this is a peaceful event — that’s what democracy is,” said Northam. “Unfortunately, they have unleashed something much larger, something they may not be able to control.”

Upwards of 5,000 people said on the Facebook page that they plan to attend. Event organizers have warned the state that as many as 100,000 could show up.

A website for the rally shows that at least 60 buses are scheduled to transport attendees into Richmond on Monday. And there's word that carpools are being organized. What’s more, armed militia groups are also planning to attend, and some have even described the event as a “boogaloo” — a term that the far right uses to describe a second civil war.

In addition to banning weapons on Capitol grounds, Northam also said he’d established a unified command between state police, Capitol police, the Richmond police department, and the city's first responder teams. This is a critical move — one that’s likely borne out of the lessons learned from the massive law enforcement failures during Unite the Right, which left one dead and dozens injured. Months after that rally, an independent review team released a searing 220-page report analyzing how law enforcement’s disorganization and failure to coordinate across agencies allowed the violent, ugly scenes that unfolded that day.

Northam says that the state of emergency will be lifted on Tuesday.
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This Conspiracy Theory Is Firing Up Pro-Gun Activists Right Before Their Huge Rally
Conspiracy theorists are claiming the United Nations is about to send troops to Virginia. That's obviously not true — but it's gained steam online.
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An OG conspiracy theory about the United Nations’ supposed effort to establish a dystopian “New World Order” has gained steam online and is now galvanizing some pro-gun activists who plan to rally in Richmond, Virginia, at the Capitol next week.

An image dating back to at least 2016 showing U.N. vehicles being transported on flatbed trucks has been making the rounds on the internet again in recent weeks. People are sharing the photo, saying it was taken late last month on a highway in Virginia. They claim it's more evidence that the U.N. is in cahoots with the Democratic Virginia Legislature on a covert mission to disarm Americans and overthrow the United States with the end goal of establishing a New World Order run by global elites.

The New World Order theory has been around for decades, but its most recent iteration is rooted in a fake document that started circulating online seven years ago. It purports to be a notice from the U.N. announcing the creation of a “Civilian Weapons Confiscation Study Group,” which would facilitate gun control laws in order to disarm civilians. It plays into simmering paranoia among right-wing militia types, who believe that a second civil war is on the horizon, and that Democrats are seeking a mass gun-grab to render conservatives defenseless.

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It’s an improbable scenario to say the least, but it's been playing on the imaginations of pro-gun activists in Virginia, thousands of whom will descend on Richmond on January 20 to protest gun control legislation. The rally was organized by the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a non-profit pro-Second Amendment organization. They’ve told the state that as many as 100,000 people could show up to the open-carry affair — and law enforcement are bracing for the possibility of violence.

Tensions over gun rights in Virginia have been mounting since a mass shooting left 12 dead in Virginia Beach in May, renewing calls from Democrats for tighter gun control. When Democrats flipped the Legislature and turned it blue in November, pro-gun groups leapt into action. Since then, 100 counties and cities passed resolutions declaring themselves “Second Amendment Sanctuaries,” meaning that they will decide which gun laws to enforce and which to ignore.

In response to the growing Second Amendment sanctuary movement in Virginia, U.S. Rep. Donald McEachin, whose district includes Richmond, ventured that the “governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law.”

“That’s his call, because I don’t know how serious these counties are and how severe the violations of law will be,” McEachin said. “But that’s obviously an option he has.”

Virginia’s National Guard put out a statement after McEachin’s comments, saying that they “understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment Rights” and “will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard.”

Pro-gun conspiracy theorists believed that Virginia’s National Guard was siding with them and that they wouldn’t comply if Gov. Ralph Northam, a Democrat, called them in to assist. In their view, Northam would be left with no choice but to summon the U.N. — whom they say has secretly been given the authority to build a network of underground bases in the United States.

A spokesperson for the U.N. says this isn't true.

“Simply put, the report is false and the U.N. is in no way undertaking any operations of the sort that you describe,” Farhad Aziz Haq said to VICE News in an email. “Photos depicting U.N. vehicles atop flatbed trucks in the U.S. are not uncommon. That’s because such vehicles are transported in the U.S. to places where they can be shipped to U.N. peacekeeping missions, where they are used. There are no U.N. peacekeeping missions in the United States, and the vehicles are not used inside the United States.”

It seems to have all begun when one Facebook user, who says they’re a resident of Elon, Virginia, shared the image of the U.N. vehicles on flatbed trucks last month with the caption, “Can’t begin to tell you how many of these I passed on 81 near Lexington, VA. Interesting times ahead!” (He’s since deleted the post.) Dave Hodges, who hosts a radio show popular among militia and "patriot" groups, claimed on December 20 that Gov. Northam was planning to use “roadblocks and U.N. troops to seize guns” from civilians.

“National Guard won’t comply with Virginia gun laws, so in response, Northam gives green light to U.N.,” declared another YouTuber with 60,000 subscribers in a video that has amassed over 100,000 views since it was posted December 29. And one Twitter account, which has been restricted due to “unusual activity,” also shared the image of the U.N. vehicles, which now has over 4,000 retweets. “As predicted!” they wrote. “U.N. vehicles in Virginia to assist with shock-troop gun control! Are you ready! Photo captured yesterday! Foreign troops!”

And the Facebook page for the Washington chapter of The Three Percenters, a right-wing militia, shared a LinkedIn post advertising a U.N. job opening for a “Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration Officer” with the caption “Boogaloo is near” — a term used by far-right groups to refer to an impending civil war.

Militia groups like The Three Percenters are expected to join pro-gun activists for the rally in Richmond on Monday.
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Mistake in article.
It’s an improbable scenario to say the least, but it's been playing on the imaginations of pro-gun activists in Virginia, thousands of whom will descend on Richmond on January 20 to protest gun control legislation. The rally was organized by the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a non-profit pro-Second Amendment organization. They’ve told the state that as many as 100,000 people could show up to the open-carry affair — and law enforcement are bracing for the possibility of violence.
Some drunk dude is bringing more people than that.
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Wow, the AMFF is up to 500,000 now? Col. Lankford has really turned it around from the total failure it was under Karl P. Koenigs. :P

Figures Karl would be all up in this since it doesn't affect him at all. Road trip for Karl, Brand and Rachel? Wonder if Mark Kessler of PA fame is driving down (if he's not in jail).

They haven't even seen the bills but they're hysterical.

Did they use the UK spelling of Defence? That would be a tipoff Eastern Europeans or Russians may have a role in this "Lobby Day".
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Orlylicious wrote:
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Did they use the UK spelling of Defence? That would be a tipoff Eastern Europeans or Russians may have a role in this "Lobby Day".
true story—some years ago my local public library opened a “centre,” described as such in signs & advertisements. i asked a librarian i knew why the UK spelling was chosen & she rolled her eyes & said “[the director] thinks it looks ‘distinguished’”
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Hmm... I wonder what it would cost Karl to go to Virginia. Oh, yeah, around $10,000. Lucky for him, when he calls out his blessed AMFF, he never actually goes himself.
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Orlylicious wrote:
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Did they use the UK spelling of Defence? That would be a tipoff Eastern Europeans or Russians may have a role in this "Lobby Day".
apparently, they've always used a commonwealth spelling of "defence." the virginia citizens defense league was founded in 1994 as the northern virginia citizens defense league, with the "s" already present. they are cited as such in an 8 july 1995 washington post story,
Fairfax Streamlines Permit Process For Carrying a Concealed Weapon; Judge Orders County to Get Rid of Some Application Requirements
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Firearm rights advocates praised the judge's decision to simplify application procedures. "We're happy the judge has taken control and that police have to obey the law," said Paul Moog, director of the Northern Virginia Citizens Defense League. Moog said his organization was among those that sent letters to Bach complaining about the complex application process. ...
a cursory search doesn't suggest why they chose that spelling. in lieu of explanation then, i'm going with "they thought it looked cool." ( ye olde defense league)
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from today's informant, by nick martin
1. The group holding the rally is a self-proclaimed ‘extremist organization’

The Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) is organizing the rally as part of its “Lobby Day 2020,” in which the group and its supporters also plan to visit the offices of lawmakers to advocate against the proposed gun measures.

The VCDL is not some mainstream lobbying group. Its president, Philip Van Cleave, is a proud member of the far-right fringe.

In a letter to a local Virginia newspaper last year, Van Cleave described his group this way: “There's nothing wrong with being extreme in the preservation of our civil rights. VCDL is proud to be categorized as an extremist organization, and we fully intend to continue being such!”

Perhaps most notably, Van Cleave was one of the subjects who got suckered by comedian Sacha Baron Cohen on the show “Who is America?” in 2018. The comedian and his crew convinced Van Cleave to film a gun-training video for toddlers.
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2. Militias are ‘welcome’ at the rally, and some have already committed to showing up
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3. Extremists keep spreading ‘confiscation’ rumors despite Northam’s statement
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4. Infowars has invited ‘Unite the Right’ organizer Richard Spencer to join its contingent at the rally
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voxpopuluxe wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:40 am
Orlylicious wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:26 am
Did they use the UK spelling of Defence? That would be a tipoff Eastern Europeans or Russians may have a role in this "Lobby Day".
apparently, they've always used a commonwealth spelling of "defence." the virginia citizens defense league was founded in 1994 as the northern virginia citizens defense league, with the "s" already present. they are cited as such in an 8 july 1995 washington post story,
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Firearm rights advocates praised the judge's decision to simplify application procedures. "We're happy the judge has taken control and that police have to obey the law," said Paul Moog, director of the Northern Virginia Citizens Defense League. Moog said his organization was among those that sent letters to Bach complaining about the complex application process. ...
a cursory search doesn't suggest why they chose that spelling. in lieu of explanation then, i'm going with "they thought it looked cool." ( ye olde defense league)
Maybe they just can't spell and don't even realize that it is not common American-English spelling.

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While these words have the same meaning, they are spelled differently in different regions. It's important that you keep your audience in mind when using defense vs. defence. Defence (spelled with a “c”) should be used in British English. Defense (spelled with an “s”) should be used in American English.

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noblepa wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:55 am
Maybe they just can't spell and don't even realize that it is not common American-English spelling.
as the magic 8 ball sez, "outlook good."
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Sugar Magnolia wrote:
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Defence (spelled with a “c”) should be used in British English. Defense (spelled with an “s”) should be used in American English.
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voxpopuluxe wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:12 am
noblepa wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:55 am
Maybe they just can't spell and don't even realize that it is not common American-English spelling.
as the magic 8 ball sez, "outlook good."
Probably taking their cue from NFL fan in the stands shots of "D and a picket fence".

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F.B.I. Arrests Suspected Members of Neo-Nazi Group Before Virginia Gun Rally

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The F.B.I. has arrested three men suspected of being members of a neo-Nazi hate group, including a former reservist in the Canadian Army, who had weapons and discussed traveling to a pro-gun rally next week in Richmond, Va., in anticipation of a possible race war.

The men were taken into custody on Thursday morning as part of a long-running investigation into the group, known as The Base. The men were charged with various federal crimes in Maryland, according to law enforcement officials familiar with the case. They were scheduled to appear in federal court before a judge on Thursday afternoon.

One of the men, Patrik Mathews, a main recruiter for the group, entered the United States illegally from Canada, according to the officials. Mr. Mathews was trained as a combat engineer and was considered an expert in explosives. He was dismissed from the Canadian Army after his ties to white supremacists surfaced.

The Base has become a growing concern for the F.B.I. as it has worked to recruit more people to its violent cause. The Base is an “accelerationist group that encourages the onset on anarchy,” according to the Counter Extremism Project, a group that tracks far-right extremists.
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