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NBC: Nevada's attorney general is investigating fake electors who backed Trump in 2020:
Nevada is the latest state to look into the 2020 scheme to aid Trump, with others already underway in Michigan, Arizona and Georgia.

Nevada’s attorney general has opened an investigation into the state’s false electors — despite previous comments that such a move was unlikely, two sources with knowledge of the investigation told NBC News.

“Is he actively investigating this? 100 percent,” one of the people with knowledge of the investigation said of Attorney General Aaron Ford, a Democrat.

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Several Nevada fake electors have appeared before a criminal grand jury investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. That includes Nevada GOP state party chair Michael McDonald and vice chair Jim DeGraffenreid.

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The attorney general's office in Nevada had no comment.
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Chesebro's lawyer was on Ari Melber tonight. As much as said the only reason Chesebro took the deal was because it was too good to be true, and that he (Chesebro) hadn't done anything wrong. Didn't really answer Ari's question about whether that meant he'd lied when he said he was guilty. :nope:

Anyway: He (the lawyer) also trotted out the "alternate electors are perfectly legal in the US of A and always have been, so neither they, nor Chesebro, broke any laws" argument. Since they went over this ad nauseum in the Eastman disbarment trial, I tuned out pretty quick.

Good luck with that, Georgia defense attorneys.

I liked the lawyer though.
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Chesebro needs to travel to Nevada, DC, and Arizona to deal with election criming.
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https://x.com/TristanSnell/status/17267 ... 34981?s=20
Tristan Snell @TristanSnell wrote: BREAKING - Nevada and Arizona investigations of Trump coup and fake electors are in FULL swing.

Ken Chesebro asks Georgia for permission to travel to both states to meet with prosecutors.

Are more Trump indictments coming?
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raison de arizona wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:07 pm Chesebro needs to travel to Nevada, DC, and Arizona to deal with election criming.
https ://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_adrlXaIAA_3Kb?format=jpg&name=medium
Interesting that there are other investigations being carried out.

What bothers me is the use of scare quotes being used around Election Fraud. It appears to me that his frame of mind is still that there was no election fraud regarding fake electors.
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Reddog wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:40 pm
raison de arizona wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:07 pm Chesebro needs to travel to Nevada, DC, and Arizona to deal with election criming.
https ://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_adrlXaIAA_3Kb?format=jpg&name=medium
Interesting that there are other investigations being carried out.

What bothers me is the use of scare quotes being used around Election Fraud. It appears to me that his frame of mind is still that there was no election fraud regarding fake electors.
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics ... index.html
A Nevada grand jury has indicted six individuals who acted as fake electors in a scheme intended to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 election win, according to the state’s attorney general.

This story is breaking and will be updated.
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:torches: Pisses me off, as per usual, that White, middle-class people, at least in Wisconsin, are basically receiving no punishment whatsoever for their parts in committing gross election fraud. They.are.seditionists.
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Kendra wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:21 pm https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics ... index.html
A Nevada grand jury has indicted six individuals who acted as fake electors in a scheme intended to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 election win, according to the state’s attorney general.

This story is breaking and will be updated.
NV Attorney General @NevadaAG wrote: Today, Nevada Attorney General Aaron D. Ford announced that six Nevadans have been indicted due to their actions in the aftermath of the 2020 presidential election.

The six Nevadans were signatories of documents in which they posed as the duly qualified electors for the state of Nevada in an effort to disrupt the results of a free and fair presidential election.
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Tick Tock.
https://twitter.com/BarryMarkson1/statu ... 80988?s=20
Barry Markson @BarryMarkson1 wrote: BREAKING: Trump attorney Kenneth Chesebro, who spearheaded the fake elector scheme, plead guilty in Georgia case and is speaking with prosecutors in states that submitted fake electors about the scheme and what local fake electors did. He was interviewed by the Nevada AG last week and today, six Nevada fake electors were indicted by a grand jury. Chesebro is meeting with investigators from @AZAGMayes office early next week. The eleven AZ fake electors below should be very concerned. So far, fake electors have been charged criminally in Michigan, Georgia and Nevada. Is AZ next?
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NewMexGirl wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:34 pm :torches: Pisses me off, as per usual, that White, middle-class people, at least in Wisconsin, are basically receiving no punishment whatsoever for their parts in committing gross election fraud. They.are.seditionists.
Speaking of them. They settled a civil suit today agreeing to revoke their fake certs and not to be electors for the next election.

Further down it mentions the AG is looking into it though is also looking to the feds. He has not ruled out state charges. Who knows.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump ... cd69141f8d
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"We are too stupid to have committed crimes."

Well, that's what it sounds like to me at least.
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A contengency plan? How does his state election law specify such a plan?

And it seems that the GQP considered a contengency has happened, not his state :doh:

There seems to be mental leightweights operating at all levels in the Republican party.
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Is that what they call the “I plead stupid” defense?
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Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:54 pm Is that what they call the “I plead stupid” defense?
"Advice of counsel."

But, in this case, it was the advice of someone else's counsel.
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Trump co-defendant Chesebro testified in Nevada to avoid charges: Court records

https://thehill.com/homenews/4368173-tr ... press.coop
Kenneth Chesebro, the lawyer who helped craft former President Trump’s fake elector plot in 2020, testified before a secret grand jury in Nevada last month in order to avoid charges, according to a newly released transcript of the testimony.

The court filing, which was released Sunday, shows prosecutors had requested Chesebro’s name be removed from the indictment in exchange for his full cooperation with the Nevada criminal investigation into the scheme to keep Trump in power by submitting a false slate of electors.

Chesebro’s testimony took place about a week before six of the so-called fake electors were charged in Nevada with offering a false instrument for filing and uttering a forged instrument. They all pleaded not guilty Monday.

The testimony also came on the heels of a separate plea agreement that Chesebro struck in Georgia, where he was among the 19 defendants, including Trump, charged in a wide-reaching Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act indictment related to their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
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All I wish for Christmas is…

Ratting!!!

Underbussing!!!

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Volkonski wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:40 pm Trump co-defendant Chesebro testified in Nevada to avoid charges: Court records

https://thehill.com/homenews/4368173-tr ... press.coop
Kenneth Chesebro, the lawyer who helped craft former President Trump’s fake elector plot in 2020, testified before a secret grand jury in Nevada last month in order to avoid charges, according to a newly released transcript of the testimony.

The court filing, which was released Sunday, shows prosecutors had requested Chesebro’s name be removed from the indictment in exchange for his full cooperation with the Nevada criminal investigation into the scheme to keep Trump in power by submitting a false slate of electors.

Chesebro’s testimony took place about a week before six of the so-called fake electors were charged in Nevada with offering a false instrument for filing and uttering a forged instrument. They all pleaded not guilty Monday.

The testimony also came on the heels of a separate plea agreement that Chesebro struck in Georgia, where he was among the 19 defendants, including Trump, charged in a wide-reaching Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act indictment related to their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
Wait! So the guy that led all the Trump minions down the yellow brick road to indictment got off scot free by ratting on the minions?
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Volkonski wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:40 pm Chesebro’s testimony took place about a week before six of the so-called fake electors were charged in Nevada with offering a false instrument for filing and uttering a forged instrument. They all pleaded not guilty Monday.
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Somebody has done got busted for UTTERING

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Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:00 pm
Volkonski wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:40 pm Trump co-defendant Chesebro testified in Nevada to avoid charges: Court records

https://thehill.com/homenews/4368173-tr ... press.coop
Kenneth Chesebro, the lawyer who helped craft former President Trump’s fake elector plot in 2020, testified before a secret grand jury in Nevada last month in order to avoid charges, according to a newly released transcript of the testimony.

The court filing, which was released Sunday, shows prosecutors had requested Chesebro’s name be removed from the indictment in exchange for his full cooperation with the Nevada criminal investigation into the scheme to keep Trump in power by submitting a false slate of electors.

Chesebro’s testimony took place about a week before six of the so-called fake electors were charged in Nevada with offering a false instrument for filing and uttering a forged instrument. They all pleaded not guilty Monday.

The testimony also came on the heels of a separate plea agreement that Chesebro struck in Georgia, where he was among the 19 defendants, including Trump, charged in a wide-reaching Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act indictment related to their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
Wait! So the guy that led all the Trump minions down the yellow brick road to indictment got off scot free by ratting on the minions?
Totally agree, Slim!!! :mad:
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If I were Cheezy, I'd be worried about the not-so-stable pals of the fake electors who got ratted out. Nevada loves them some 2A.
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June bug wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:29 am
Slim Cognito wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:00 pm
Volkonski wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:40 pm :snippity:
Wait! So the guy that led all the Trump minions down the yellow brick road to indictment got off scot free by ratting on the minions?
Totally agree, Slim!!! :mad:
Yes, I would have preferred if Willis had gone to the minions and said "Cheezy gonna rat on you, what do you want to do?" and then refused to give Cheesebro a deal. It goes against everything reasonable to give the one who fed these people the idea, convinced them it was OK, then they get prosecuted and he gets off with a slap on the wrist. That is just ridiculous.
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