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Post by Sam the Centipede » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:45 pm

Maybenaut wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:38 am
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What's the difference between telefurloughing (a new verb for me!) and unpaid leave, other than the pay element?
Sorry, Sam! He was joking.
Ah! Sorry, perhaps I was being dozy. In this tipsy-turdy world, it seemed plausible that someone might be offered the option of being paid (later) for doing nothing or not being paid for doing nothing. And the military, any military, can have very strange customs ... at least when viewed by non-military people.



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Sam the Centipede wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:45 pm
Maybenaut wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:38 am
Sam the Centipede wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:33 am
What's the difference between telefurloughing (a new verb for me!) and unpaid leave, other than the pay element?
Sorry, Sam! He was joking.
Ah! Sorry, perhaps I was being dozy. In this tipsy-turdy world, it seemed plausible that someone might be offered the option of being paid (later) for doing nothing or not being paid for doing nothing. And the military, any military, can have very strange customs ... at least when viewed by non-military people.
We’re not military anymore - we’re both retired. My husband is a federal employee. He works for FEMA.


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Post by Volkonski » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:48 pm

TSA closes security checkpoint at IAH Terminal B amid government shutdown staffing shortage

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The security checkpoint and ticketing counter were closed at 3:30 p.m. Sunday, according to Houston Airport System spokesman Bill Begley. It will remain closed the rest of Sunday, with details on Monday unknown at the time of writing.

Flights departing Terminal B will operate as normal, but passengers must check in at Terminals C or E and then ride the Skyway to Terminal B.

"We're encouraging passengers to arrive early and give themselves extra time," Begley said.

Mayor Sylvester Turner tweeted: "Advice to always get to @iah 2 hours before your flight is especially important today. Shortage of TSA workers, unpaid during the US gov't shutdown, is causing this change. Terminal B is solely @united flights."


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Post by Volkonski » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:50 pm

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TERMINAL B TICKETING LOBBY AND SECURITY CHECKPOINT CLOSED
Due to staffing issues associated with the partial shutdown of the federal government, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security checkpoint and the ticketing counter in Terminal B at George Bush Intercontinental Airport closed at 3:30 p.m. on Sunday, Jan. 13, 2019, and will remain closed the rest of the day.
Flights scheduled to depart from Terminal B will operate as normal. Passengers with flights scheduled to depart from Terminal B are being directed to the ticket counters and TSA checkpoints located in Terminal C and Terminal E.

Passengers are encouraged to arrive early and give themselves extra time to check in for their flights and to clear the security checkpoints. For passengers flying out of Terminal B, once checked in passengers can walk or take the Skyway tram to Terminal B to reach their departing gate. Passengers can utilize the interactive terminal map available on fly2houston.com to help navigate their way back to Terminal B.
https://www.fly2houston.com/iah/alerts/#navpanel

Terminal B has 43 gates and Terminals C and E aren't right next door. There is a large hotel and two parking facilities between Terminals B and C. I have been using IAH for decades yet have never used the Skyway. This is a huge hassle for travelers on United tonight.


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Post by Orlylicious » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:07 pm

A Miami Terminal shut down today too. This is ridiculous. Over 50% of Americans rightfully blame Donald and the GOP. Cocaine Mitch needs to get out of his damn turtle shell and open the government. Enough.


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Post by Danraft » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:15 pm

Orlylicious wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:07 pm
A Miami Terminal shut down today too. This is ridiculous. Over 50% of Americans rightfully blame Donald and the GOP. Cocaine Mitch needs to get out of his damn turtle shell and open the government. Enough.
Doesn't matter. This is another example of information bubbles. Some people see things differently than others and in this particular case, Trump supporters see things entirely differently than the rest of America.

As long as the Trump supporters support Trump, the rest of America doesn't matter. In particular, the opinion of democrats doesn't matter.


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Post by bob » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:33 am

Mikedunford wrote:
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And setting spending and borrowing on autopilot is about as good a way to spectacularly wreck all kinds of shit that I can think of. It might not cause as much direct and immediate harm as splatting into the debt ceiling, but I doubt the long-term outcome will look very different.
Mike D. is correct: This bill would change the nature of the gamesmanship, but it wouldn't eliminate the game.

However, Slate had this tidbit:
And in order to ensure that it wouldn’t replace budgeting forever, it would state that “Congress members cannot travel, Cabinet members cannot travel, while there’s a continuing resolution. No one can travel until this is resolved.”
The idea of automatic CRs coupled with harsh penalties for not passing a budget is ... interesting. But also constitutionally ... problematic.


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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:46 am

Maybe if Congress didn't get paid during a "shut down" we wouldn't have any more of them.



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Post by neeneko » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:23 am

Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:46 am
Maybe if Congress didn't get paid during a "shut down" we wouldn't have any more of them.
Congresscritters are generally wealthy enough that failing to get paid for a few months would not really impact them.

Now, stopping payments to the janitorial and maintenance staff, or landlords for leased office space that they use, THAT might get their attention.



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Post by Danraft » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:33 am

As I see it, in this case, it isn't about there not being a will to open the government. Almost certainly Tue votes are there. (And, it's likely that there are sufficient votes to over ride the veto)

Instead, the Senate majority leader is blocking a vote. So, what legal and Constitutional rules could shorten this?
Here's my spit balling answer (which may he able to implemented)
1. In certain situations, for instance when the government is not fully funded, additional Senate and Congressional rules apply.
2. The bodies cannot recess and specific rules requiring a quorum don't apply. In other words, a party would have to have the votes to vote down a resolution PRESENT at all times. As soon as the numbers shift by members travelling etc., then the vote could be called.
3. I'm ambivalent as what the policy should be if it were immediately vetoed. There is the normal ten days to override the veto and that seems fair. But, maybe the notice of the vote could be shortened to 24 hours?


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Post by Volkonski » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:44 am

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Great #Snurlough of 2019 has shut down schools and federal gov’t in D.C. region but as of this morning, House still moving forward with votes at 6:30 tonight


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Post by Foggy » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:57 am

He thinks all the federal employees out of work are Democrats. He's very proud of the shutdown.

So far ...


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Trump says many of the Democrats in Congress are "calling" him and saying "we agree with you" on the shutdown.

Like many of the suspiciously-helpful-to-Trump phone calls Trump describes, there is little chance this is not a lie.


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Post by Volkonski » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:53 am

Hartsfield-Jackson security lines more than an hour long amid federal shutdown

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Security lines at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport stretched more than an hour long Monday morning, causing travelers to miss flights amid the partial federal shutdown.

At a time when the world’s busiest airport has its biggest crowds, there were at least six security lanes closed at domestic terminal security checkpoints, while passengers waited in lines that stretched through the terminal and were winding through baggage claim.

Wait times could reach as long as an hour and a half.
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Post by Adrianinflorida » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:56 am

Just in time for the super bowl :)



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Post by Volkonski » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:05 am

IAH Terminal B TSA checkpoints remain closed.
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TERMINAL B TICKETING LOBBY AND SECURITY CHECKPOINT REMAINS CLOSED
Due to staffing issues associated with the partial shutdown of the federal government, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security checkpoint and the ticketing counter in Terminal B at George Bush Intercontinental Airport remains closed.


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Post by Reality Check » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:21 am

Volkonski wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:28 am
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Trump says many of the Democrats in Congress are "calling" him and saying "we agree with you" on the shutdown.

Like many of the suspiciously-helpful-to-Trump phone calls Trump describes, there is little chance this is not a lie.
Of course this is another lie. As the votes have proceeded on the funding bills there is evidence it is the Republicans who are caving. More have joined the Democrats in approving the funding bills as time passes.


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Post by Jim » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:24 am

Anyone have a list of the Republican junkets taken during government shutdowns?

Asking to debunk a friend. :-D



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Post by Volkonski » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:22 pm

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Important information regarding SNAP benefits – TOMORROW, Jan 15th, is the deadline for New Mexico SNAP recipients who are due for renewal of benefits in January to submit a renewal form in order to receive their February benefits.

This is a change due to the federal government shutdown. If you or someone you know receives SNAP benefits, please share this information! You can submit your renewal form online and get more information here: https://www.yes.state.nm.us/yesnm/home/index

11:10 AM - 14 Jan 2019
Bet this change messes up a lot of SNAP recipients. :(


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So I’m at @ATLairport and this may be the longest security line I have ever seen. Even growing up here, and even for a Monday morning. One passenger told me he’d been waiting over an hour and still had about 30 minutes to go.


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President Trump said on Monday that he has rejected a proposal by Senator Lindsey Graham to temporarily reopen the government


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Post by Volkonski » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:21 pm

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“They won’t jeopardize security; if the lines get longer that’s something that we're all going to have to deal with.”

ABC News’ @David_Kerley reports from Reagan National Airport as government shutdown drags on. https://abcn.ws/2Dbsqlt
Problems at Reagan could affect those in congress and the administration. Good.


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Trump says many of the Democrats in Congress are "calling" him and saying "we agree with you" on the shutdown.

Like many of the suspiciously-helpful-to-Trump phone calls Trump describes, there is little chance this is not a lie.
Really? Did he name even one?


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