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Post by maydijo » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:43 pm

To me, age matters because, sometimes (not always, but sometimes) faculties decline with age. Ronald Reagan probably had Alzheimer's for his entire second term. Donald Trump seems to be suffering from some form of sundowner. We don't want a president who isn't mentally capable of doing the job.

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Post by Suranis » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:26 pm

Biden is 75. Grump is 71. Mitt Romney is 70, older than Hillary Clinton, and I don't see him getting any of the Ageist shit that She got and that Biden is getting.

If Biden can run and wants to, he should run. The whole "who are the younger voices" is just another line to scare off someone that the other side fears. Hell they are already filling the internet with lurid doctored picks of every time he touched a young girl, and there are websites ready to go full of every one of his "gaffes."

If they fear him, then he is a good candidate. Go Joe.
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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:42 pm

Well you can vote for him, Suranis.

Oh, wait!

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Post by Sam the Centipede » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:18 am

There are two dimensions to the age issue: the biological age and the political age. By political age, I mean whether the candidate is seen as a long-established insider or a fresh new personality. Both Obama and Trump (eeugh, it hurts to use that phrase!) were politically new as candidates. Of course, Obama had real political experience (whereas Trump played golf badly, assaulted women and bankrupted businesses) but Obama was not a decades-long Washington insider.

It's about getting votes, and I suspect the voters might prefer a fresher face. And that could play well with the general affection for the Mr. Smith Goes To Washington theme: an honest, dynamic yet sufficiently experienced Democrat against a tainted, entitled, complicit Republican.

For that reason, and my feeling that energizing younger voters is the key, I'd go for "love you Joe, but no thank you."

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Suranis wrote:
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Biden: 'The America I see does not wish to turn our back on the world'

Former Vice President Joe Biden on Saturday called for a strong relationship between the U.S. and its traditional allies.

“The America I see does not wish to turn our back on the world or our closest allies,” Biden said during a security conference in Munich, according to The Washington Post.

“The America I see cherishes a free press, democracy, the rule of law," he added. "It stands up to the aggression of dictators and against strongmen.”

Biden also received a standing ovation at the conference as he criticized President Trump's treatment of traditional European allies, according to The New York Times.

“This too shall pass. We will be back. We will be back," he said. ...

Biden's comments in Munich came as he is thought to be considering a 2020 presidential bid, which could ultimately pit him against Trump. Sources close to the former vice president told The Hill last week that Biden is almost certain to enter the race.

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Post by woodworker » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:38 pm

I like Joe, but as our nominee -- NO NO NO.
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Post by Orlylicious » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:01 pm

As when I made the topic, I'd be really happy to see Joe Biden on the debate stage. We have a great selection, and all the voices will bring something to the table for alliances to be formed. We're looking forward to them and from what Ive heard and read, the process is going to be transparent and fair. Time to hear about the future and the amazing things awaiting America, not the looking backward, stuck-in-the-past, angry, always having grievance GOP.

Joe Biden has an awesome story to tell, tremendous experience serving our nation, and respect from a lot of working Democrats. As before, I'm not suggesting he'll be the nomimee, but am really happy he'll be championing kitchen table views and realistic expectations on the debate stage.
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Post by Addie » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:11 pm

WaPo - Jennifer Rubin
If this Joe Biden runs, he’ll win ...

First, if Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) wants to fundamentally change the United States (“Socialism!” Republicans will scream) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) says the system is so rigged that incremental changes won’t work, Biden appeals to Americans’ better angels, to the idea that President Trump doesn’t understand what makes America great. “That’s not who we are,” he says after describing the divisiveness and anger that Trump amplifies. “We’re better than that,” he cajoles the crowd. It’s a solid message for a candidate running in a fairly good economy with a president who’s stressing out the country. He also suggests a confidence of America post-Trump. (“There is nothing we can’t do,” Biden likes to say.)

Second, there are few politicians as adept at making a traditional economic message against stereotypical fat-cat Republicans. “I look around this room, I see the people who built this nation,” he told the crowd. And boy, have Republicans given him material to work with. He told the firefighters, “Did you see the budget that was just introduced? It cuts $845 billion ... in Medicare and ... $240 billion in Medicaid. Why? Because of a tax cut for the super-wealthy that created a deficit of $1.9 trillion and now they’ve got to make somebody pay for it.” Bingo.

Any presidential candidate who isn’t saying some variation of that every day is foolish. This is where you remind voters that Trump ran as a populist — better health care, middle-class tax relief, protect Medicare, get better trade deals — but governs as an oligarch — take away Obamacare, increase the gap between rich and everyone else with tax cuts for him and his pals, slash Medicare and get us into trade wars.

Three, Biden’s speech is suitable for all audiences because he talks about core values. (“America is an idea, an idea that goes back to our founding.”) It’s “corny” he says — and then recites the opening of the Declaration of Independence. If Sanders, Warren and others are narrowcasting to a segment of the party, Biden is quite consciously talking to the party as a whole and implicitly promising to unify two wings of the party.

Fourth, Biden is best when he talks deliberately, softly. In contrast to the rash, impulsive, insulting rhetoric we hear from a bellowing president, Biden comes across, when he is in quiet mode, as calm, in control and stable. Now, those are not three adjectives one always associates with Biden. However, he is capable of projecting that persona, and in a field of screamers and candidates in love with their own poetic turns of phrase, his direct, simple declarative statements do make him seem more grounded in the real world.

Finally, while he is the veteran politician in the crowd, he can be forward-looking and aspirational. “In America, everybody gets a shot,” Biden said. “That’s what the next president of the United States needs to understand. That’s what I don’t think this current president understands at all.”

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Post by Orlylicious » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:16 pm

There's been talk of him coming out of the gate with Beto as VP. This will be a fun primary season, excited to see the range of ideas.
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Post by Addie » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:31 pm

WaPo - Dave Weigel
He’s running — almost. Joe Biden gets ahead of himself in Saturday speech, to cheers from the crowd.

DOVER, Del. — Former vice president Joe Biden is expected to announce soon whether he will seek the White House in 2020. On Saturday night, he seemed — for a moment — to get ahead of himself.

“I have the most progressive record of anybody running for the United . . . anybody who would run,” Biden told Delaware Democrats at their party fundraising dinner.

The crowd at a ballroom at the Dover Downs casino complex began to cheer, as Biden laughed and crossed himself.

Biden, 76, has repeatedly pushed back possible announcement dates for what would be his third run for the presidency. He has tapped staffers who would be expected to lead a national campaign, leaving many of his political allies convinced he’ll run. But he has yet to make those plans official.

Saturday night’s state Democratic gala, which also celebrated a top-to-bottom Democratic sweep in the state’s midterm elections, repeatedly turned to Biden’s own plans.

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Post by Suranis » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:30 pm

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Former Vice President Joe Biden had a private meeting with former Georgia House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams on Thursday, prompting speculation about the implications of that conversation for each one's potential presidential candidacy.

A source close to Abrams confirmed the meeting and said that it occurred at Biden's request, according to the Associated Press. The meeting is significant because Biden represents the moderate, establishment wing of the Democratic Party and is widely expected to be an instant frontrunner if he decides to seek the presidential nomination in 2020. Abrams, by contrast, has run as an unabashed progressive and, because her most significant public office was that of a state legislator, she would normally not be considered as a viable presidential contender. That said, Abrams' defeat at the hands of Republican Brian Kemp during last year's gubernatorial election was widely viewed as tainted due to rampant voter suppression, and Abrams' star has risen within the party to the point where she delivered a response to President Donald Trump's State of the Union address earlier this year.

Consequently, Abrams is being courted as a possible Senate candidate in 2020 — or even a possible presidential or vice presidential candidate that same year.

Abrams has admitted to having a possible interest in the presidential race, but less so in running for the Senate. As she told the AP, "My objective is to make sure I want to do that job, and because I’d not thought about the Senate before — it had never been in my list of considerations."

She added, "The Senate is a different way to tackle the issues I see. It is a continuation of my legislative work, which I appreciated, but it’s an indirect solution to some of the challenges I see."

Regarding the presidency, however, Abrams tweeted earlier this week that "in #LeadFromTheOutside, I explore how to be intentional about plans, but flexible enough to adapt. 20 years ago, I never thought I’d be ready to run for POTUS before 2028. But life comes at you fast - as I shared in Q&A w @Yamiche at @sxsw. Now 2020 is definitely on the table..."

Biden's potential candidacy comes with challenges of its own. During his Senate career he took many positions that are out of step with the modern Democratic Party, such as by supporting a controversial 1993 crime bill that critics believe exacerbated America's mass incarceration crisis, opposing antitrust legislation, initially opposing Roe v. Wade and supporting Ronald Reagan's policies on tax reductions for the wealthy and putting a freeze on Social Security spending. Despite these drawbacks, though, Biden has also benefited from the good will resulting from his close friendship with former President Barack Obama, who remains a beloved figure in the Democratic Party.
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Post by Addie » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:12 pm

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Biden weighing an early announcement of running mate: report

Former Vice President Joe Biden, who is expected to soon launch a bid for the presidency, is reportedly considering selecting a running mate early in his campaign.

Citing Democrats familiar with Biden's plans, CNN reported the possibility on Monday. An aide told the network that naming a running mate early would help Biden keep the focus on the Democratic goal of defeating President Trump in the general election.

Biden has discussed the possibility in conversations with advisers as well as with top Democrats and elected officials, according to CNN.

CNN noted that Biden stirred speculation last week by meeting with former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams (D). But the two did not formally discuss the vice presidency during that meeting, two people familiar with the meeting told CNN.

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Post by sad-cafe » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:25 pm

Biden/Beto would be FANTASTIC

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Post by Foggy » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:25 am

Yeah but he can't pick any of the 14 candy dates who are already running for president.

If he does, it's an insult - you can't win the big job but you can be my flunky. Before a single vote has been cast. That's not going to happen. :nope:
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sad-cafe wrote:
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If Biden wins the nom, I prefer Biden/Harris or Biden/Warren.
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Post by Addie » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:48 am

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Joe Biden Weighing Unique Steps to Reassure Voters Concerned About His Age

Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., aware that concerns about his age could weigh on his candidacy if he runs for the White House, has discussed two steps that could reassure voters about electing a 78-year-old president next year.

Mr. Biden and his top advisers are considering nodding to the rising next generation in Democratic politics — and elevating an heir — by announcing a running mate early, well before the nomination is sealed. Also under discussion is a possible pledge to serve only one term and framing Mr. Biden’s 2020 campaign as a one-time rescue mission for a beleaguered country, according to multiple party officials.

Such moves would amount to a big play that would send a signal about the seriousness of the election, and could potentially appeal to both liberal activists and general-election voters who are eager to chart the safest route toward defeating President Trump. But Mr. Biden is not sold on either approach, and both carry significant risks, chiefly that they could call further attention to the age of a candidate who would turn 80 in the White House.

There is also the risk that Mr. Biden could appear presumptuous — even imperious — by choosing a running mate before the electorate has the chance to sift the field of candidates, presenting voters with a two-person package before anyone has voted for even the top spot on the ticket. More than a dozen people are running in the Democratic primary, including a record number of women and minorities, and announcing a running mate too soon could foreclose the possibility of uniting the party by inviting a popular runner-up to join the ticket later.

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Post by Addie » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:24 pm

Associated Press
Biden, Abrams reps pour cold water on running mate ‘rumors’

WASHINGTON (AP) — Representatives for Joe Biden and Stacey Abrams say that rumors the former vice president planned to choose the onetime Georgia gubernatorial candidate as his 2020 running mate are “false” and that there was “no grand plan hatched.”

Biden spokesman Bill Russo tweeted Friday that the ex-vice president “has an enormous amount of respect for” Abrams, noting Biden endorsed her in the gubernatorial race. “But,” Russo tweeted, “these rumors about discussions on a pre-cooked ticket are false, plain and simple.”

Abrams’ spokeswoman Lauren Groh-Wargo responded by saying Abrams “enjoyed meeting” with Biden but “there was no grand plan hatched” and she was keeping her options for 2020 open.

Both Biden and Abrams are considering 2020 Democratic presidential runs, and Biden advisers had reportedly discussed options to mitigate concerns about his age.

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Biden criticizes ‘white man’s culture,’ role in Hill hearing

NEW YORK (AP) — Former Vice President Joe Biden condemned “a white man’s culture” Tuesday night as he lashed out at violence against women and, more specifically, lamented his role in the Supreme Court confirmation hearings that undermined Anita Hill’s credibility nearly three decades ago.

Biden, a Democratic presidential prospect who often highlights his white working-class roots, said Hill, who is African-American, should not have been forced to face a panel of “a bunch of white guys” about her sexual harassment allegations against Clarence Thomas.

“To this day I regret I couldn’t come up with a way to give her the kind of hearing she deserved,” he said, echoing comments he delivered last fall as the nation debated sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh amid his Supreme Court confirmation hearing. “I wish I could have done something.”

Biden’s role in the 1991 Thomas confirmation hearings is among his many political challenges as he considers making a 2020 bid for the presidency. Should he run, he would be among a handful of white men in a Democratic presidential field that features several women and minorities.

His comments about Hill drew swift condemnation on social media, with many noting he was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee at the time of the hearing.

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‘I was shocked’: Nevada Democrat accuses Biden of touching, kissing her without consent
A onetime Democratic nominee for Nevada’s lieutenant governor accused former vice president Joe Biden on Friday of touching and kissing her without her consent during her campaign in 2014, an experience she says left her feeling mortified, embarrassed and confused.
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Flores said she told a few members of her staff what happened but was initially reluctant to talk to anyone else.

“Is it enough of a transgression if a man touches and kisses you without consent but doesn’t rise to the level of what most people consider sexual assault?” she said. “I did what most women do, and moved on with my life and my work.”
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Over the years, Biden has been captured in numerous images and videos embracing, kissing and standing close to women. These instances were brushed off by some who saw his actions as “lighthearted,” and Flores lamented that Biden was able to keep his title of “America’s Favorite Uncle” despite myriad publications documenting his actions.
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Post by neonzx » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:01 pm

https:// twitter.com/mikememoli/status/1112164725385760769
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Smart @IsaacDovere point: @JoeBiden's delay in building out and announcing campaign has hamstrung response to Flores https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ng/586183/
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Post by sad-cafe » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:06 pm

I smell bullshit and trickery.

why not-our "president" does it on an hourly basis.

I am not surprised that others haven't started using his playbook

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Post by Suranis » Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:16 pm

They have been faking "Gropen Biden" photos on social media for 2 years now. This is just the next step up.
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Post by poplove » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:25 am

Call me shallow, but Uncle Joe can put his hands on my shoulders and sniff my hair anytime. Much better than getting my pussy grabbed while being forcibly kissed by the current president.
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