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Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:57 pm
by Ben-Prime
New Turtle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:54 pm
A FPOTUS can declassify any document by affixing a 2-cent stamp on the corner and faxing it to a court of record at the earliest convenience. it says so in the Magna Carta.
Remember that the position of the stamp matters, too, also.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:05 pm
by Dr. Ken
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:09 pm
by Dr. Ken
wow quite the argument
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:29 pm
by Dr. Ken
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:37 pm
by Slim Cognito
New Turtle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:54 pm
A FPOTUS can declassify any document by affixing a 2-cent stamp on the corner and faxing it to a court of record at the earliest convenience. it says so in the Magna Carta.
Well played, dear Turtle. Well played.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:50 pm
by Volkonski
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:04 pm
by RVInit
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:16 pm
by Volkonski
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:21 pm
by SuzieC
Powerful editorial. Not a hint of bothsiderism.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:22 pm
by Chilidog
Do did they filed the amended complaint in the special master lawsuit?
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:33 pm
by qbawl
New Turtle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:54 pm
A FPOTUS can declassify any document by affixing a 2-cent stamp on the corner and faxing it to a court of record at the earliest convenience. it says so in the
Magna MAGA Carta.
FIFY
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:34 pm
by raison de arizona
"Kash Patel, Former Chief of Staff for the DOD and lead Investigator for Russia Gate"
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:37 pm
by Dr. Ken
Feels like bizarro world when Karl rove makes sense
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:43 pm
by Foggy
Chilidog wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:22 pm
Do did they filed the amended complaint in the special master lawsuit?
It wasn't supposed to be an amended complaint. There was an order by the judge, Aileen Cannon, for Trump’s lawyers to file a document explaining what they filed and what they wanted her to do.
At this point I think they want her to pull down Bruce Reinhart's pants and spank him hard, but I doubt she'll go along with it.
I mean, what else do they want? Order the DOJ not to indict Trump on account of how it might could hurt his poor delicate feelings? Order the American people to elect Trump again in 2024? What do they think the judge can do for him at this point?
Anyway, I don't have PACER and have no idea what, if anything, has been filed in Cannon's court.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:48 pm
by sugar magnolia
Does a president get an automatic security clearance or do they have to go through some sort of approval process? Is it done before or after they take office, if so?
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:53 pm
by chancery
I'm pretty sure that the answer to that question is "no approval process whatsoever." In fact, classified briefings start for the major parties' presidential nominees in the summer before the election.
Redoing a screwed up correction.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:53 pm
by chancery
delete me, please
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:54 pm
by Maybenaut
sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:48 pm
Does a president get an automatic security clearance or do they have to go through some sort of approval process? Is it done before or after they take office, if so?
I think it starts once the election results are in, as part of the transition. I know they get classified briefings during the transition, but I don't think they have to go through the same sort of clearance adjudication process the rest of us have to. I mean, dude gets elected president and someone in the government is going to be like, sorry, sir, you're not cleared to see this stuff?
I do recall there were issues with Jared, et al not being cleared.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:54 pm
by bob
"Kash Patel, Former Chief of Staff for the DOD and lead Investigator for Russia Gate"
The affidavit literally references an article written by Patel in Breitbart.
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sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:48 pm
Does a president get an automatic security clearance or do they have to go through some sort of approval process? Is it done before or after they take office, if so?
Essentially automatic; no approval process.
Presidents typically grant formers (some) access to (some) classified materials, but that too isn't automatic. While we don't know the details, we know Biden yanked his access to the PDBs. I think is safe to infer other access also was yanked.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:01 pm
by sugar magnolia
chancery wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:53 pm
delete me, please
Noooo, you can't leave!
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:02 pm
by sugar magnolia
So he could run and win while being under investigation, or even indictment but no conviction (yet) and still have access to everything as president, again?
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:04 pm
by MN-Skeptic
Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:09 pm
wow quite the argument
Gorsuch ex-clerk Mike Davis on Fox News: "The president has the absolute constitutional authority to declassify anything he wants for any reason he wants... it is legally impossible for President Trump to have committed espionage or to have violated some Presidential Records Act"
Too bad he's no longer
President Trump. Since Jan 20, 2021 he's just been just plain citizen Trump, and just plain citizen Trump has absolutely no right to possess documents belonging to the Office of the President.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:06 pm
by Greatgrey
Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:43 pm
Chilidog wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:22 pm
Do did they filed the amended complaint in the special master lawsuit?
It wasn't supposed to be an amended complaint. There was an order by the judge, Aileen Cannon, for Trump’s lawyers to file a document explaining what they filed and what they wanted her to do.
At this point I think they want her to pull down Bruce Reinhart's pants and spank him hard, but I doubt she'll go along with it.
I mean, what else do they want? Order the DOJ not to indict Trump on account of how it might could hurt his poor delicate feelings? Order the American people to elect Trump again in 2024? What do they think the judge can do for him at this point?
Anyway, I don't have PACER and have no idea what, if anything, has been filed in Cannon's court.
Well there’s this,
The Excellent T.E., T.E. Raj K Patel wants ECF privileges.
And he declares himself to be the Plaintiff.
Ya really have to have a peek at this. It even haz a seal!
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 3.25.0.pdf
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Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:07 pm
by Maybenaut
sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:02 pm
So he could run and win while being under investigation, or even indictment but no conviction (yet) and still have access to everything as president, again?
Theoretically. But I doubt anyone in the current administration would actually show him anything until they absolutely have to.
Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 7:08 pm
by sugar magnolia
The media need to be hammering on the "it doesn't matter if they are classified" angle since that is not what the FBI/DOJ is investigating. Start referring to them as stolen documents, regardless of classification.