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There are new reports the Poland Team 1 gas balloon that crashed in Texas Monday night was avoiding gunfire at the time.

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A balloon racing in this year’s Gordon Bennett Cup, which began in Albuquerque, crashed into power lines in Texas on Monday. There are new reports that the gas balloon was avoiding gunfire.

Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday evening that he is not sure if Florida’s red flag law is effective in removing guns from dangerous people and he wouldn’t sign one – or any gun safety measure – if elected president.

Instead, in response to Wednesday’s mass shooting at a bowling alley and a restaurant in Lewiston, Maine, that has left at least 18 dead, the Republican presidential candidate said he would institutionalize more people with mental health issues against their will.

“I think what’s ultimately effective is holding people accountable, either through mental adjudication if they’re crazy or convicting them when they’re committing crimes,” DeSantis told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins on “The Source.”

An intensive manhunt is still underway for the suspect in the shooting, who police said recently reported mental health issues and was reported to have been committed to a mental health facility for two weeks over the summer.

In Florida, law enforcement agencies can advocate for judges to temporarily bar dangerous individuals from possessing or purchasing a firearm through a provision known as a “red flag” law. From its inception following the Parkland high school massacre in 2018 through mid-2022, it was invoked more than 8,000 times to restrict gun ownership of people authorities deemed a risk to themselves or others. The law is supported by many Florida sheriffs.

DeSantis said he didn’t think Florida’s law – which allows judges to ban or remove firearms from someone experiencing a mental health crisis – would have made a difference if it was in place in Maine.

“In this case, I’m not sure,” he said. “I think an involuntary commitment, though, would have kept him off the street, and I think that would have done the trick.”

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:01 am A rather explosive character

No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen @NoLieWithBTC wrote: Reminder that Republicans have been wearing AR-15 pins, often in place of where their American flag pins would normally go.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:55 pm In a showing of support for mass shootings...

No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen @NoLieWithBTC wrote: Reminder that Republicans have been wearing AR-15 pins, often in place of where their American flag pins would normally go.

Firearms Policy Coalition @gunpolicy wrote: FPC WIN: A Pennsylvania federal judge has ruled in an FPC-supported case that 922(g)(1) (the federal felon firearm ban) is unconstitutional as applied to the plaintiff, who was convicted of a non-violent misdemeanor in 2005: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 4.82.0.pdf

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:34 pm Another one bites the dust, felony firearm ban.

neeneko wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:12 am

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:34 pm Another one bites the dust, felony firearm ban.

Eh, this one I am actually ok with. Things should be banned or not banned.. I loathe the 'how much freedom can you afford?' middleground the US is so fond of... esp when it is keyed off the justice system which, to put it generously, is not equally applied.

Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:35 am I think I get your point, but if one regards owning lethal weapons as a privilege rather than a fundamental right, then it is reasonable to take the view that of a person shows him/herself not to be worthy of that privilege, it is withdrawn. And being a convicted serious felon demonstrates prima facie unworthiness.

It is similar to a court saying "you have been caught drink-driving multiple times, you cannot be trusted to drive sober, your license is revoked for a year." Or do you believe that everybody should be allowed to drive a car, drunk or sober, blind or sighted, clean license or peppered with offenses?

And that's for driving, which is far more necessary to many people's lives and livelihood, whereas no ordinary person needs firearms, as evidenced by their general non-availibilty in so many comparable countries.

Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:50 am Gods know I WISH owning a gun was a privilege and not a right, but that's not how it was set up, sadly.

Dave from down under wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:53 am Well past time to regulate the militia..

By all means retain your right to bear arms as part of a well regulated militia…
But that means your arms are in the armoury and you get to play with them only in accordance with the dictates of the range sergeant…

Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:35 am I think I get your point, but if one regards owning lethal weapons as a privilege rather than a fundamental right, then it is reasonable to take the view that of a person shows him/herself not to be worthy of that privilege, it is withdrawn. And being a convicted serious felon demonstrates prima facie unworthiness.

Steven Rattner @SteveRattner wrote: The House GOP just voted to prevent the CDC from studying gun deaths and injuries. Hmm...I wonder why?

AndyinPA wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:43 pm And Biden's going to sign it? Or the power of the purse allows them?