January 6 Select Committee

[Dave from down under]

German pronunciation of Extreme Wires

[Kriselda Gray]

German pronunciation of Extreme Wires

[much ado]

ultra vires

What does this mean?

a. A declaratory judgment that the Meadows Subpoena and the Verizon Subpoena are ultra vires, unlawful, and unenforceable;

"Ultra vires" means "acting or done beyond one's legal power or authority."

IANAL, but I take it to mean that they seek a judgment that the subpoenas issued by the Committee exceed the authority of the Committee and are therefore unlawful, meaningless, and not binding on the parties who were subpoenaed. (Or something along those lines.)

[Kriselda Gray]

Thank you very much!

[bob]

ultra vires

What does this mean?

Ultra vires is Latin for "beyond (the powers)," meaning an unauthorized -- and therefore unenforceable -- act.

It is when a legal organization attempts to act beyond its granted powers (like a traffic court convicting you of counterfeiting), as opposed to something with no legal authority (say, a citizens grand jury) attempting to do, well, anything.

In this case, Meadows is acknowledging that Congress can form committees, but he's alleging because this was not properly formed (because Pelosi nixed the insurrectionists potential witnesses) it lacks the authority to issue subpoenas.

[Kendra]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... story.html

Eight days before the Jan. 6 rally in Washington, a little-known Trump donor living thousands of miles away in the Tuscan countryside quietly wired a total of $650,000 to three organizations that helped stage and promote the event.

The lack of fanfare was typical of Julie Fancelli, the 72-year-old daughter of the founder of the Publix grocery store chain. Even as she has given millions to charity through a family foundation, Fancelli has lived a private life, splitting time between her homes in Florida and Italy, and doting on her grandchildren, according to family members and friends.

Now, Fancelli is facing public scrutiny as the House committee investigating the insurrection seeks to expose the financing for the rally that preceded the riot at the U.S. Capitol. Fancelli is the largest publicly known donor to the rally, support that some concerned relatives and others attributed to her enthusiasm for conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

[filly]

When the hell is the DC Court of Appeals going to rule?

[Kriselda Gray]

ultra vires

What does this mean?

Ultra vires is Latin for "beyond (the powers)," meaning an unauthorized -- and therefore unenforceable -- act.

It is when a legal organization attempts to act beyond its granted powers (like a traffic court convicting you of counterfeiting), as opposed to something with no legal authority (say, a citizens grand jury) attempting to do, well, anything.

In this case, Meadows is acknowledging that Congress can form committees, but he's alleging because this was not properly formed (because Pelosi nixed the insurrectionists potential witnesses) it lacks the authority to issue subpoenas.

Thanks! I presume his claim about Pelosi making it improperly formed is typical BS, right?

[bob]

I presume his claim about Pelosi making it improperly formed is typical BS, right?

Basically, yes: Even if there were some irregularities about the committee, no court is going to say that the Speaker can't run the House. There's certainly no constitutional right for a minority party to name its preferred committee members.

[filly]

I presume his claim about Pelosi making it improperly formed is typical BS, right?

Basically, yes: Even if there were some irregularities about the committee, no court is going to say that the Speaker can't run the House. There's certainly no constitutional right for a minority party to name its preferred committee members.

Agreed. The courts will not interfere with the rules of the House. Then there's the facts, like Andy Biggs being involved in the insurrection....

[Luke]

Akbar arrives and gives a peace sign.

[filly]

Some of this is new:

(CNN)Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows provided the House select committee investigating the January 6 riot with text messages and emails that show he was "exchanging with a wide range of individuals while the attack was underway," according to a source with knowledge of the communications.

The messages on Meadows' personal cell phone and email account, which were voluntarily handed over without any claim of executive privilege, relate to "what Donald Trump was doing and not doing during the riot," the source added.

These communications offer a window into what people were texting to Meadows on January 6, what he was telling them about Trump in real time, and what the former President was doing for those hours while the Capitol was under attack and rioters were chanting "Hang Mike Pence," according to the source.

While a handful of Trump loyalists have defied the committee, the source familiar with the investigation said there are "many people every week coming in to testify and produce documents." In some instances, "multiple people a day," appear before the committee, the source added.

The committee's works is happening on two levels -- in public and behind closed doors. The committee has said it has subpoenaed about 40 individuals, but the source tells CNN there are a large number of additional subpoenas that have not been revealed publicly. The source says that among these witnesses are "names we will recognize" and eventually those are likely to become public as well.

In a letter sent to the Meadows' attorney on Wednesday, the committee hinted at the content of the texts it has received from Trump's former chief of staff. The letter noted Meadows provided the committee with "text messages about the need for the former President to issue a public statement that could have stopped the January 6th attack on the Capitol."

The source familiar with the communications tells CNN the texts may not reflect well on the former president.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/09/politics ... index.html

[Kendra]

Latest: Trump White House chief Mark Meadows turned over to Jan. 6 committee an email that referred to a PowerPoint calling for Trump to declare a NatSec emergency and have VP Pence delay Biden’s certification

[filly]

NBC reports that Ali Alexander, Kash Patel, Chris Krebs and John Eastman appeared before the Committee today. No word on how long Eastman stayed.

[Ben-Prime]

Too, also, there's this:

Mark Meadows and the National Archives are in talks over potential records he did “not properly” turn over from his personal phone and email account, the presidential record-keeping agency confirmed Thursday.

“NARA is working with counsel to Mark Meadows to obtain any Presidential records that were not properly copied or forwarded into his official account,” a NARA spokesperson said in a statement to POLITICO.

A source close to former President Donald Trump’s ex-chief of staff confirmed that Meadows is working with the National Archives to turn over any documents that he was supposed to provide upon the end of Trump's term.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/0 ... ump-524043

[bob]

D.C. Cir. tells the repeached Florida Man to pound sand:

The current injunction (against the archivist) will end in 14 days; if a cert. petition is filed, then it will end when SCOTUS disposes of the case.

[Kendra]

Edit: trumped by Bob

[AndyinPA]

No link yet, but court just ruled against the DFO in the White House document fight. Biden has the right to determine executive privilege.

[bob]

No link yet, but court just ruled against the DFO in the White House document fight. Biden has the right to determine executive privilege.

D.C. Cir.'s 3-0, 68-page smackdown.

[Kendra]

I almost (almost) wish he was back on Twitter so we could see his ranting. Almost.

[AndyinPA]

Link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... 6-records/

A federal appeals court on Thursday rejected former president Donald Trump’s bid to keep his White House documents secret from a congressional committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, potentially setting up an emergency review by the Supreme Court.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit upheld a lower court’s opinion, which said that in a dispute between a current and past president over whether to release White House records, the sitting president must prevail.

Judges Patricia A. Millett, Robert L. Wilkins and Ketanji Brown Jackson denied Trump’s request for a preliminary injunction blocking the National Archives and Records Administration from releasing the first roughly 800 pages of disputed Trump papers after President Biden declined to assert executive privilege as requested by his predecessor, setting up the first of its kind constitutional controversy.

The court stayed the opinion 14 days for Trump’s legal team to appeal to the Supreme Court, as they requested at a Nov. 30 hearing in case of adverse ruling.

[Luke]

Thank you Filly (feel better, sending hugs!), Kriselda (nice to see you!), Kendra, Bob, Ben and all for the updates. When I saw that more than 275 interviews have been conducted it was amazing. Happy the Committee is keeping cards close to the vest. Hearing that there will be public hearings in the Spring since folks are tuning out for the holidays and that's a better time leading up to the midterms to show how garbage the GQP has become.

What a dope Mark Meadows is. He was a slimy lousy Congressman that broke rules, and he did the same thing as COS. He couldn't even write his toadying book correctly and incurred DL2XIT's tiny-handed wrath. (By the way, it was asked in another topic, it's Foggy's wonderful idea, DL2XIT means Disgraced Loser Twice-Impeached T****.)

We are resolved not to pay attention to, open topics about, or think about DL2XIT. We saw in VA that running against DL2XIT does not work. America knows the ridiculous lying disgrace he is. To give him oxygen just makes his fans happy and accomplishes nothing. Unless there are indictments, major losses (like the DC Circuit ruling against him) or he's hit by an ice cream truck, not interested at all. Was thinking maybe we should have a post-only topic of truly major news about DL2XIT that is important to know. Because every time I see how many views our DL2XIT topics has, it's a reminder that to win in 2022 we have to leave that smelly garbage behind. OK off the soapbox now.

Go J6 Committee!!

[bob]

"For completeness," the losing lawyer in the D.C. Cir.'s smackdown was Binnall, a lower-tier Krakener. Whose office is (checks notes) above the Pita House:

[Foggy]

I almost (almost) wish he was back on Twitter so we could see his ranting. Almost.

Someone would have to read it and explain it to him, of course.

Before or after the tweets, I couldn't say

[Luke]

Despise Jesse R. Binnall. He brought many of the ridiculous losing election cases and it was a pleasure to rub his brown nose in each failure. Jesse hasn't been tweeting much, mostly retweets though he did have a decent (for him) tweet about Bob Dole's passing. Yet instead of trying even a little to bring the country together, this grifter revels in his sick lawfare litigation. Called him out on his pinned tweet and will be happy to take the block. Did I mention I'm not a fan?

Too harsh?

OrlyLicious @Orly_licious
While @RepLizCheney keeps working to bring America together as Bob Dole did, you continue to divide & lose. DC Circuit was right & SCOTUS will agree. Taking advantage of weak-minded dead-end election deniers may make you money, but it's truly un-American.