New York State Investigations of Trump and Related

[Foggy]

She's joking, of course. There will always be important investigations and cases underway. Some get resolved, new ones appear. You can never "finish the job" of being New York Attorney General. That's metaphysically absurd, man.

[Volkonski]

[RTH10260]

Trump Fraud Inquiry’s Focus: Did He Mislead His Own Accountants?
The investigation, by the Manhattan district attorney, is zeroing in on information the former president and his company shared about the value of his assets.

By William K. Rashbaum, Ben Protess and Jonah E. Bromwich
Dec. 14, 2021 Updated 5:41 p.m. ET

As prosecutors in Manhattan weigh whether to charge Donald J. Trump with fraud, they have zeroed in on financial documents that he used to obtain loans and boast about his wealth, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

The documents, compiled by Mr. Trump’s longtime accountants and known as annual statements of financial condition, could help answer a question at the heart of the long-running criminal investigation into the former president: Did he inflate the value of his assets to defraud his lenders?

In recent weeks, prosecutors in the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., have questioned one of Mr. Trump’s accountants before a grand jury as part of their examination of the financial statements, said the people with knowledge of the matter. Prosecutors also interviewed his longtime banker, another person said.

If the prosecutors seek an indictment, the case’s outcome could hinge on whether they can use the documents to prove that a defining feature of Mr. Trump’s public persona — his penchant for hyperbole — was so extreme and intentional when dealing with his lenders that it crossed the line into fraud.

Whenever Mr. Trump needed a loan, he would provide potential lenders with the statements, which contained optimistic projections about the value of his real estate business as well as sweeping disclaimers noting the numbers’ limitations.

Mr. Vance’s prosecutors found that the accountants who put together the statements relied on underlying information provided by the Trump Organization, Mr. Trump’s family business, according to the people with knowledge of the matter, who were familiar with the questions prosecutors asked and spoke only on condition of anonymity because they were discussing confidential testimony.




https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/14/nyre ... quiry.html

[northland10]

Trump Fraud Inquiry’s Focus: Did He Mislead His Own Accountants?

This is the guy who would commit perjury if asked the question, "what is your name." He would give multiple answers.

[Volkonski]

Jonathan Lemire
@JonLemire
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NEW YORK (AP) — New York attorney general subpoenas former President Donald Trump, two eldest children in probe of the family's business.

[Volkonski]

The Associated Press
@AP
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BREAKING: New York attorney general subpoenas former President Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump in probe of the family's business.

[Volkonski]

ABC News
@ABC
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JUST IN: Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump refuse to comply with subpoenas issued by the New York State attorney general’s office as it conducts a civil investigation into the way the family real estate business valued its holdings.

[AndyinPA]

Round 'em up!

[Slim Cognito]

Now what?

[AndyinPA]

IANAL, but it seems lately as if it's just a normal thing for people to refuse subpoenas without consequences. What consequences should there be? In a sane world.

[Volkonski]

New York attorney general asks court to enforce subpoenas of Trump children in tax fraud probe
The Trump children are joining their father in fighting subpoenas by the attorney general, who is conducting a civil tax fraud investigation into the family's company.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... d_nn_tw_ma

James's office "recently" filed subpoenas seeking testimony and documents from former President Donald Trump's children "in connection with an investigation into the valuation of properties owned or controlled by Donald J. Trump or the Trump Organization,” according to a New York Supreme Court order unsealed Monday and first reported by The New York Times.

James is also seeking to depose the former president as part of the probe. Trump has called James' investigation "corrupt" and a "witch hunt." The filing shows that Trump and his children are all challenging the subpoenas.

The judge signed off on a Dec. 30 stipulation which will allow the Trumps to file a motion to quash the subpoenas and for the attorney general to respond with a timetable for the judge to review the filings.

[filly]

James will get her court order on the kids. Just a question of when. What are they hiding?

[raison de arizona]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1478052733844393984?s=20

The Associated Press
@AP
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BREAKING: New York attorney general subpoenas former President Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump in probe of the family's business.

Wow, even the NY AG doesn’t give a shit about Eric Trump. It’s not just his dad.

[Volkonski]

ABC News
@ABC
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Replying to
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After eldest Trump children refuse to comply with subpoenas, New York state attorney’s general office issues statement: “We are confident that our questions will be answered and the truth will be uncovered because no one is above the law.” https://abcn.ws/3FVmriO

[filly]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1478052733844393984?s=20

The Associated Press
@AP
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BREAKING: New York attorney general subpoenas former President Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump in probe of the family's business.

Wow, even the NY AG doesn’t give a shit about Eric Trump. It’s not just his dad.

Eric has already been deposed as Custodian of Records for the T.O. He also tried to wiggle out of a subpoena but ultimately appeared.

[raison de arizona]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1478052733844393984?s=20

The Associated Press
@AP
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10m
BREAKING: New York attorney general subpoenas former President Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr. and Ivanka Trump in probe of the family's business.

Wow, even the NY AG doesn’t give a shit about Eric Trump. It’s not just his dad.

Eric has already been deposed as Custodian of Records for the T.O. He also tried to wiggle out of a subpoena but ultimately appeared.

[notorial dissent]

Sounds like all should head for FL before they get served, they can all go camp out at Merde Lagoon for all the good it will do them. Although, I thought Jr had a big house down there.

Is it alright if I have this fantasy of them all being arrested and hauled out in cuffs sometime real soon??

[northland10]

Trump longs to be in a world that still has nobility and all the privileges he thinks come with it.

[Phoenix520]

Question:

Come sentencing time, will their refusal to cooperate have repercussions?

[AndyinPA]

I like your optimism.

[Suranis]

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/sta ... 5486297088

Mueller, She Wrote
@MuellerSheWrote
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Ivanka and Junior aren’t simply “refusing to comply” right now as headlines indicate. They are going to file a motion to quash the subpoenas. The court will likely deny and compel them to be deposed. THEN if they refuse to comply, they’re in violation of the law.

[noblepa]

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/sta ... 5486297088

Mueller, She Wrote
@MuellerSheWrote
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Ivanka and Junior aren’t simply “refusing to comply” right now as headlines indicate. They are going to file a motion to quash the subpoenas. The court will likely deny and compel them to be deposed. THEN if they refuse to comply, they’re in violation of the law.

A motion to quash the subpeonas is perfectly normal and to be expected. I would be very surprised if they didn't file such a motion. If the motion were granted, then their refusal to comply becomes moot.

As you say, it seems unlikely to me (IANAL) that the court will grant the motion.

If the subpeonas are upheld, how can the NYAG enforce them? As long as they stay out of the state, it doesn't seem that there is much that she can do about it. Can she ask a Federal court to enforce the subpeona, citing diversity of citizenship?

[bob]

If the subpeonas are upheld, how can the NYAG enforce them? As long as they stay out of the state, it doesn't seem that there is much that she can do about it. Can she ask a Federal court to enforce the subpeona, citing diversity of citizenship?

State court. AGoNY goes to a Florida state court and presents the subpoena, requests a state court to enforce it.

[roadscholar]

Trump longs to be in a world that still has nobility and all the privileges he thinks come with it.

Nobility doth reap anon its just desserts.

“To sit in solemn silence on a dull, dark dock
in a pestilential prison with a life-long lock
awaiting the sensation of a short, sharp shock
from a cheap and chippy chopper on a big, black block.”

— W.S. Gilbert

Ah, the good old days.

[Dave from down under]

Sounds like all should head for FL before they get served, they can all go camp out at Merde Lagoon for all the good it will do them. Although, I thought Jr had a big house down there.

Is it alright if I have this fantasy of them all being arrested and hauled out in cuffs sometime real soon??

Perfectly healthy fantasy....

it would get weird if it included limp wet celery and a flying helmet... :-