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RTH10260 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:56 am From the discussion so far I take it that the prior guy can only be liable under espionage and nuclear laws, not of mishandling classified government documents. It was explained that classified document handling was defined by presidential EO.

Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:10 am

RTH10260 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:56 am From the discussion so far I take it that the prior guy can only be liable under espionage and nuclear laws, not of mishandling classified government documents. It was explained that classified document handling was defined by presidential EO.

I think he has to actually issue the EO, though, prior to any changes taking place. I doubt he can do it retroactively.

Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:10 am
I think he has to actually issue the EO, though, prior to any changes taking place. I doubt he can do it retroactively.

Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:14 am

Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:10 am
I think he has to actually issue the EO, though, prior to any changes taking place. I doubt he can do it retroactively.

Perhaps he can: Trump is an Ex-President, so he can issue an Ex-Ecutive Order!

noblepa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:59 pm

W. Kevin Vicklund wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:23 pm

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:25 pm Has anyone noticed that Mar-a-Lago went from being Trump's private, exclusive club for wealthy members only to being his "home"?

Oh, a lot of us noticed that, especially since that was a violation of the agreement allowing Merde-Lardo to be built*.

*not sure if built is the right word here

I seem to remember that there was some rationale that was used and the City Attorney declined to pursue the matter and enforce the clause in the permit that was issued when he created the private club.

Patel: The Government Services Administration is responsible for packaging and parceling those documents. They were the one who moved those documents to Mar-a-Lago.. Even if they get past the declassification farce.. it’s not like President Trump put them in a backpack.

Patel: In October of 2020, President Trump put out for the world to see a sweeping declassification order and he did it via social media.. In December and January, I witnessed him declassify whole sets of documents…

Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart seems to be thinking seriously about keeping the entire Trump affidavit sealed. One reason he gave that USG did not: It includes details abt Mar-a-Lago, which is protected by Secret Service.

Patel: The Government Services Administration is responsible for packaging and parceling those documents. They were the one who moved those documents to Mar-a-Lago..

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Uninformed wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:43 am I know it sounds stupid, but did tfg and his legal masterminds, for whatever reason, think that documents that had been taken to his “home” during his presidency weren’t covered by the retrieval efforts (or possibly, wouldn’t be known about)?

Uninformed wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:48 am I have not seen the subpoena that the was served; has it been published?

• instructions on how to build nuclear weapons
• list of all our agents in foreign countries
• location of Jimmy Hoffa's body
• top secret formula for Coca-Cola
• treasure map signed by Blackbeard
• the real birth certificate
• Putin's cell phone number
• complete details on Area 51

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:11 am Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Be vewy quiet. Maybe there won't be a library.