Re: Roe vs. Wade, American abortion rights
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:25 pm
If giving water to voters in line is illegal...
Falsehoods Unchallenged Only Fester and Grow
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If giving water to voters in line is illegal...
I watched it last night on HBO, and it was disturbing yet inspiring. I remember hearing about the group many years ago, post Roe, and there were others like it around the country.Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:56 pm I’m house sitting this month for my sister in beautiful Hermosa Beach, trading 98° days for 72° days. Her elderly, diabetic Pomeranian, Freddie Mercury, takes up a lot of time (4 walks a day, one of them an hour long) so I’ll be spending most of my time inside, not on the Strand or at the beach.
One of the things I have lined up is to watch The Janes documentary on Apple TV. Has anyone seen it? All of the information and advice in this thread will be very useful to anyone wanting to do something similar in our terrifying timeline.
The landscape hasn’t settled yet. It’s possible that their overreach - total surveillance on women of child bearing years as evidenced by proposals to punish any and every one who helps a woman get an abortion and forbidding travel to another state for that purpose - will turn off millions more voters and we’ll end up with fewer R controlled state leges, but that’s not the vibe I’m getting. YMMV, depending on where you live.
But we will need something similar to The Jane network. It’s different this time, there are states willing to value existing lives over potential lives and I’m grateful for that. Now, though, we also have the internet. It’ll be both a boone and a hinderance; it will make coordination easier, but will also allow people who have nothing but busybody time on their hands to monitor social media and report their suspicions to the proper authority.
A few shifts back we had a discussion of how one can never have too much Tupperware and Scentsy candles. Most nurses bring leftovers to work and want to get the hospital smell out of their nose. It is time to bring back those events.poplove wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:32 pmI watched it last night on HBO, and it was disturbing yet inspiring. I remember hearing about the group many years ago, post Roe, and there were others like it around the country.Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:56 pm I’m house sitting this month for my sister in beautiful Hermosa Beach, trading 98° days for 72° days. Her elderly, diabetic Pomeranian, Freddie Mercury, takes up a lot of time (4 walks a day, one of them an hour long) so I’ll be spending most of my time inside, not on the Strand or at the beach.
One of the things I have lined up is to watch The Janes documentary on Apple TV. Has anyone seen it? All of the information and advice in this thread will be very useful to anyone wanting to do something similar in our terrifying timeline.
The landscape hasn’t settled yet. It’s possible that their overreach - total surveillance on women of child bearing years as evidenced by proposals to punish any and every one who helps a woman get an abortion and forbidding travel to another state for that purpose - will turn off millions more voters and we’ll end up with fewer R controlled state leges, but that’s not the vibe I’m getting. YMMV, depending on where you live.
But we will need something similar to The Jane network. It’s different this time, there are states willing to value existing lives over potential lives and I’m grateful for that. Now, though, we also have the internet. It’ll be both a boone and a hinderance; it will make coordination easier, but will also allow people who have nothing but busybody time on their hands to monitor social media and report their suspicions to the proper authority.
I vaguely recall a story I saw about a group of nurses that would get together for a "tupperware party" or something like that and they would help the woman/girl in need. And now there's a new generation of brave and clever women who are willing to do it again.
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This is incredible. @RollingStone has hot mic audio of a right-wing evangelical activist bragging about praying with Supreme Court justices.
The majority cited the organization (whom they prayed with) when they struck down Roe https://rollingstone.com/politics/polit
Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA), son of the famous anti-abortion governor whose name adorns Casey v. Planned Parenthood, will support reforming the filibuster to pass abortion protections.
“He believes the rule should be changed for a number of issues and this is one of them,” Casey press secretary Natalie Adams told TPM.
Casey has evolved significantly on abortion, in May announcing that he’d vote for a bill to codify protections soon after the draft Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade leaked.
Republican AG says he'll investigate Indiana doctor who provided care to 10-year-old rape victim
Myah Ward
Thu, July 14, 2022 at 4:58 AM
Indiana’s Republican attorney general said on Wednesday that his office planned to investigate the Indiana doctor who helped a 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to have an abortion.
Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Indianapolis, has told multiple outlets that she provided care to the 10-year-old after a child abuse doctor in Ohio contacted her. The child was six weeks and three days into the pregnancy, Bernard said. After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last month, a wave of state-level abortion restrictions took effect, including in Ohio, a state that bans abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy, with no exceptions for rape or incest.
“We’re gathering the evidence as we speak, and we’re going to fight this to the end, including looking at her licensure if she failed to report. And in Indiana it’s a crime … to intentionally not report,” state Attorney General Todd Rokita said on Fox News on Wednesday night. “This is a child, and there’s a strong public interest in understanding if someone under the age of 16 or under the age of 18 or really any woman is having abortion in our state. And then if a child is being sexually abused, of course parents need to know. Authorities need to know. Public policy experts need to know.”
Abortion in Indiana is banned after 22 weeks of pregnancy, with some exceptions for medical emergencies. There are strict reporting requirements in both Ohio and Indiana for abortions and rape allegations.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-a ... 55686.html
I kinda read it as the speaker trying to pull politically unpalatable parts of the ban out of the 'abortion' space so they can pull an 'abortion is banned, except the kinds of abortions which if banned would hurt us politically even with our followers, so they are not true scotsmen^M^M^M^M^M^Mabortions'.keith wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:33 pm I need some context here...
Is the witness trying to propose that operations to remove ectopic 'conditions' shouldnt be considered an abortion thus putting lifesaving procedures back in the medical kit bagout of reach of the barbarians?
Is the questioner attempting to deny that little sliver of common sense?
What?
Who are these people?