What about it?raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:06 pmDisagree.Suranis wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:58 pmIf the Arab countries had done that 70 years ago, the refugee camps would not exist and Hamas and the PLO would never have existed.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:16 pm Heard on the news that Egypt opened up their border to allow folks from Gaza to flee.
'Member me?
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That map was in 1947, when the British still controlled Palastine, and was spending a massive amount of effort trying to claw the Jews and Palestinians apart.
The British pulled out in 1948. Literally the day after the rest of the middle east invaded and the Palestiniand started murdering every Jew they could fine. This massive war was won by Israel. This caused the Palestinians who had been fighting the Israelis to flee.
The problem is that when they tried to flee to OTHER Arab countries, the other countries herded them into huge refugee camps and refused point blank to grant them citizenship or let them leave the refugee camps. They wanted to keep these massive clumps of Palestinians there as a cudgel to use against Israel. Then criminal gangs took over the refugee camps, the PLO criminal gang murdered all the rest of them to take over control, and the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians trapped in no mans land swelled to millions over time.
That big lump of humanity in GAZA is directly the fault of the Arab nations around Israel. If they had allowed the Palestinians to disperse there would have been no PLO, no Hamas and no eternal war. This has precisely fuck all about the white man and the evil ignoring of on the ground ethnic groups.
The exception was Jordan, who allowed the Palestinians to become citizens of their country. And in thanks the PLO set off a revolution and tried to take over the Government. And Jordan has suffered Palestinian terrorist attacks ever since. Thank you Yassar Arrafat
The reason Hamas took over from the PLO was that the people were sick and tired of the PLO big wigs driving around in expensive cars and provate jets while they sat there starving. Hamas were NOT corrupt so they were breath of fresh air. Of course, it turns out that they are also more than happy to sacrifice the whole of Gaza to Allah in order to destroy Israel, because they are fanatics.
And a little word about the evil white colonial powers being behind everything:
When you start looking at the whole "ethnic groups" in the area closely, you start throwing up your hands in despair. Iran alone has something like 200 distinct ethnic groups, and they all hate one another and they all claim the same scraps of land. If you gave them all a homeland all you would have is 200 little weak countries... and they would all immediately start fighting internally as the groups INSIDE those ethnic groups started fighting, as well as the 200 new little countries groups fighting amongst each other over the same scraps of land
So, faced with that bunch of spoiled kids, you would grab a ruler, draw a line and call it a day too.
Plus they largely used the lines of the Administration districts of the Ottoman empire, which wasn't filled with evil white people. This is the map of it in 1905. See the similar boundaries to today?
Conflict in the Middle East goes back to Biblical times, and if you asked them they would cite various reasons that go back that far and battles they lost and so on. The Iran-Iraq war was just a continuation of the Arab-Persian conflict that has been going on for 1400 years at least.