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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:58 pm
by bob
I lurve that Greene went "as a member of the Oversight Committee," and the court said, "Ma'am, this is a Wendy's," and sent her to the public line.

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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:18 pm
by Kriselda Gray
raison de arizona wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:30 pm I don’t see that on his timeline FWIW.
The thing that makes me question it is his calling her Judge Chutney. I'd be surprised if he knew the word, much less had any clue as to what Chutney even is. It seems too highbrow for one of his 'nicknames'

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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:23 pm
by RVInit
Fiascoist wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:46 am As an added bonus, I never saw a narcissist testify. Deep down, they know they can't hold it together during direct, let alone cross because they have no control over the situation.
If you want to see a narcissist testify, search YouTube for the Alex Murdaugh trial and find the video where he testified. He really thought he could schmooze the jury that way he had schmoozed people his entire life.

Murdaugh did far better than TFG could ever do, but the jury saw through it all anyway.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:54 am
by jcolvin2
Kriselda Gray wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:18 pm
The thing that makes me question it is his calling her Judge Chutney. I'd be surprised if he knew the word, much less had any clue as to what Chutney even is. It seems too highbrow for one of his 'nicknames'
Whether or not it was written by Trump or one of his surrogates, I think the “Judge Chutney” comment conveys the casual racism that the MAGA base has come to expect from Dear Leader’s social media posts. The nickname demeans by linking the judge with something associated with non-white people. (Granted much of what passes for chutney in this country is a pale reflection of the original, having been jellied and sweetened for the early 20th century British palate.)

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:09 am
by Ben-Prime
Off Topic
jcolvin2 wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:54 am
Kriselda Gray wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:18 pm
The thing that makes me question it is his calling her Judge Chutney. I'd be surprised if he knew the word, much less had any clue as to what Chutney even is. It seems too highbrow for one of his 'nicknames'
Whether or not it was written by Trump or one of his surrogates, I think the “Judge Chutney” comment conveys the casual racism that the MAGA base has come to expect from Dear Leader’s social media posts. The nickname demeans by linking the judge with something associated with non-white people. (Granted much of what passes for chutney in this country is a pale reflection of the original, having been jellied and sweetened for the early 20th century British palate.)
Having done two years out of Our Embassy in London, you can have my caramelized onion chutney covering a slice of double Gloucester cheese when you pry both out of my cold, dead hands.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:33 am
by Foggy
I said to ol' Wifehorn in the car on Sunday, "Judge Chutney" is an obvious racist dog whistle, and I have been watching for it, but his white supremacist redneck supporters would have no idea what chutney is, much less that (yes, a version of it) is sold in Indian restaurants.

They've never been to an Indian restaurant. They've never seen one. There are no Indian restaurants in East Armpit, Alabama.

So Judge Chutney doesn't work. Unless he says it again, I has a suspicious about that Untruth®.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:43 am
by Suranis
As seen on discord, someone copied an ad they got when going to Truth Social to look at the https://truthsocial.com/@BidenHQ account. Which is indeed very funny.

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Oh and as for why they joined Truthsocial?

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Wouldn't it be funny if they started getting more traffic than Trump on his own site? :batting:

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:14 pm
by noblepa
Foggy wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:33 am I said to ol' Wifehorn in the car on Sunday, "Judge Chutney" is an obvious racist dog whistle, and I have been watching for it, but his white supremacist redneck supporters would have no idea what chutney is, much less that (yes, a version of it) is sold in Indian restaurants.

They've never been to an Indian restaurant. They've never seen one. There are no Indian restaurants in East Armpit, Alabama.

So Judge Chutney doesn't work. Unless he says it again, I has a suspicious about that Untruth®.
In one of his recent postings regarding the NY trial, he made the statement that "the monkeys are running the asylum".

First of all, the phrase is usually "the inmates are running the asylum".

More importantly, though, IMHO, is the use of the work "monkey". That is often used as a racist euphamism for black people.

Is it just me, or is he becoming more and more obvious in his racism? He always showed glimmers of racism, but he seems to be more and more open about it.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 3:34 pm
by Foggy
noblepa wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 2:14 pm Is it just me, or is he becoming more and more obvious in his racism?
It's not just you.
He always showed glimmers of racism, but he seems to be more and more open about it.
He's always been a racist shitstain and he's getting worse because older and more desperate about his own inferiority.

Remember that a black man was a much more intelligent, successful, and popular president. He can never match up, not in his head, not in mine.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:29 pm
by Suranis
Also, he got attention before by throwing veiled insults at people. There's no reason he wouldn't do it now when he is desperate for attention.

And he isn't a -cist. He despises EVERYONE.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:18 pm
by p0rtia
Chutkan gag* order

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content ... 7-2023.pdf
Accordingly, and pursuant to Local Criminal Rule 57.7(c), it is hereby ORDERED that: All interested parties in this matter, including the parties and their counsel, are prohibited from making any public statements, or directing others to make any public statements, that target (1) the Special Counsel prosecuting this case or his staff; (2) defense counsel or their staff; (3) any of this court’s staff or other supporting personnel; or (4) any reasonably foreseeable witness or the substance of their testimony.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:05 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
p0rtia wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 5:18 pm Chutkan gag* order

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content ... 7-2023.pdf
Accordingly, and pursuant to Local Criminal Rule 57.7(c), it is hereby ORDERED that: All interested parties in this matter, including the parties and their counsel, are prohibited from making any public statements, or directing others to make any public statements, that target (1) the Special Counsel prosecuting this case or his staff; (2) defense counsel or their staff; (3) any of this court’s staff or other supporting personnel; or (4) any reasonably foreseeable witness or the substance of their testimony.
Yep, this aligns precisely with my expectations.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:17 pm
by jcolvin2
Off Topic
You have well and truly gone native.
Ben-Prime wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:09 am Having done two years out of Our Embassy in London, you can have my caramelized onion chutney covering a slice of double Gloucester cheese when you pry both out of my cold, dead hands.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:10 pm
by keith
Off Topic
You have well and truly gone native.
Ben-Prime wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:09 am Having done two years out of Our Embassy in London, you can have my caramelized onion chutney covering a slice of double Gloucester cheese when you pry both out of my cold, dead hands.

OK, we've just gone through a jar of carmelized onion in spicy shiraz jam, more a chutney than a jam. We tried it with everything, and it was better than great, but we never found that perfect match. Gloucester cheese you say? I think I'm on a mission now.

FYI shiraz is a wine grape variety. Most of the world calls it syrah.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:24 pm
by sugar magnolia
keith wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:10 pm
Off Topic
You have well and truly gone native.
Ben-Prime wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:09 am Having done two years out of Our Embassy in London, you can have my caramelized onion chutney covering a slice of double Gloucester cheese when you pry both out of my cold, dead hands.

OK, we've just gone through a jar of carmelized onion in spicy shiraz jam, more a chutney than a jam. We tried it with everything, and it was better than great, but we never found that perfect match. Gloucester cheese you say? I think I'm on a mission now.

FYI shiraz is a wine grape variety. Most of the world calls it syrah.
But did you try it with roast pork?

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:30 pm
by keith
Pork chop, not roast. Also lamb, crackers, cheddar cheese, not sure what else.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:51 pm
by bob
Notice of appeal filed:

Although this was a nonfinal decision, the appellate court likely will rule it is still appealable under the collateral-order doctrine.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:53 pm
by NewMexGirl
The appeal will happen concurrently with the trial so that’s a good thing, shouldn’t delay the trial itself, at least according to Popehat. Chutkan seems pretty determined to stick with the March date.

Correct me if I’m wrong, as I so often am. One of the things I admire most about IAALs is the ability to tell someone they’re a dumb mofo, but tactfully.

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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:58 pm
by bob
NewMexGirl wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:53 pm The appeal will happen concurrently with the trial so that’s a good thing, shouldn’t delay the trial itself, at least according to Popehat.
Correct. Unless there's a stay pending appeal, but I doubt either the district or appellate court will be inclined to grant that.

Given the upcoming trial date, I would not be surprised if actually expect the D.C. Cir. to expedite this appeal.

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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:09 pm
by Uninformed
Apparently tfg’s lawyer John Laura who submitted the appeal of Judge Chutkan’s gag order is not a member of the bar for the DC Court of appeals (this can be rectified).


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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:02 pm
by noblepa
One would think that a lawyer would know that he must be admitted to practice before the appellate court.

Apparently, one would be wrong.

He's not the same one who forgot to check the box for a jury trial in New York, is he?

Only the best.

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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:05 pm
by bill_g
I think it was Lady Hantavirus that forgot to tick the box.

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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:20 pm
by Sam the Centipede
Via Vanity Fair:
John Lauro wrote:“I’ve been a member of the DC bar and the federal trial court bar for nearly 40 years. This is a routine request from the federal appellate court to join its bar, which I will do in order to represent President Trump in this important matter.”
The esteemed members of the Fogbar can adjudicate as to whether this is a purely administrative thing, whether it is bad to be caught in this way, or what.

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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:25 pm
by Reality Check
Sam the Centipede wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:20 pm :snippity:
The esteemed members of the Fogbar can adjudicate as to whether this is a purely administrative thing, whether it is bad to be caught in this way, or what.
I think I know what :oldman: would say. Attorneys are supposed to know the rules. Has Lauro never once filed an appeal in his 40 year career?

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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:57 pm
by Maybenaut
I’ve never filed an appeal in any federal court, except military courts and the U.S. Supreme Court. Even I know each circuit requires admission.