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Special counsel Jack Smith, who cut his teeth prosecuting war crimes at The Hague, has tapped his deputy from those prosecutions to help him in the investigations of former President Donald Trump, reported POLITICO on Friday.

"Alex Whiting worked alongside Smith for three years, helping prosecute crimes against humanity that occurred in Kosovo in the late 1990s," reported Kyle Cheney. "The Yale-educated attorney also worked as a prosecutor with the International Criminal Court from 2010 to 2013. He has taught law classes at Harvard since 2007 as well, hired as an assistant professor by then-Dean Elena Kagan — now a Supreme Court justice — and rising to a visiting professorship in 2013."

The role Whiting is performing for the special counsel is not currently known; however, according to the report, he has been seen multiple times this week at the district courthouse in Washington, D.C.

Judge Tanya Chutkan, the jurist overseeing the landmark prosecution by special counsel Jack Smith against former President Donald Trump for the plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election, just got assigned another Trumpworld legal case.

Politico reporter Kyle Cheney revealed she will be hearing the defamation suit brought by ex-Trump attorney Stefan Passantino against former Mueller investigation prosecutor Andrew Weissmann.

Passantino claims Weissmann, a frequent legal analyst who appears on CNN and MSNBC, defamed him when the commentator said the lawyer coached former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson to lie to the House January 6 Select Committee.

Kendra wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:43 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... =9#image=1

Judge Tanya Chutkan, the jurist overseeing the landmark prosecution by special counsel Jack Smith against former President Donald Trump for the plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election, just got assigned another Trumpworld legal case.

Politico reporter Kyle Cheney revealed she will be hearing the defamation suit brought by ex-Trump attorney Stefan Passantino against former Mueller investigation prosecutor Andrew Weissmann.

Passantino claims Weissmann, a frequent legal analyst who appears on CNN and MSNBC, defamed him when the commentator said the lawyer coached former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson to lie to the House January 6 Select Committee.

roadscholar wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:08 pm She clarified what she testified to, and it wasn’t that she was coached to lie per se, but rather to avoid giving the whole truth, to assist in the cover-up. And saying “I don’t recall” when you know damned well you do, that’s a lie. So in that sense he was telling her to lie, I suppose. Legally not perjurious (?) because proving you remember something you said you didn’t is difficult. BUT it’s the kind of thing Cassidy said wouldn’t pass the “mirror test,” knowing every time she looks in the mirror for the rest of her life that she materially misrepresented the facts. Facts too important to keep quiet about, for the good of the country.

A Republican with real integrity. Lordy, how I wish there were more of them.

bill_g wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:19 am

roadscholar wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:08 pm She clarified what she testified to, and it wasn’t that she was coached to lie per se, but rather to avoid giving the whole truth, to assist in the cover-up. And saying “I don’t recall” when you know damned well you do, that’s a lie. So in that sense he was telling her to lie, I suppose. Legally not perjurious (?) because proving you remember something you said you didn’t is difficult. BUT it’s the kind of thing Cassidy said wouldn’t pass the “mirror test,” knowing every time she looks in the mirror for the rest of her life that she materially misrepresented the facts. Facts too important to keep quiet about, for the good of the country.

A Republican with real integrity. Lordy, how I wish there were more of them.

I watched Rachel Maddow last night. She devoted the hour to Cassidy Hutchinson, and her new book "Enough". Her clarifications and expansion on her previous testimony were part of the interview.

Gregg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:43 pm
I watched her tonight on Lawrence O'Donnel. I was working while it was playng as white noise in the office but WOW, she tossed her own Trump loving dad, who has since passed away even, under the bus,
then backed up to make sure,
a few times.

It was harsh. Also, she mentions Alexander Buterfield, one of my personal heroes from Watergate, who a minute later was on with them telling her "Good Job" and such.

And then she back up the bus a few more times.... just to be sure.

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney wrote: BREAKING: Judge CHUTKAN *denies* Trump's motion to recuse.

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/sh ... 3cr0257-61

BREAKING: Judge CHUTKAN *denies* Trump's motion to recuse.

DDC wrote:At the outset, it bears noting that the court has never taken the position the defense ascribes to it: that former “President Trump should be prosecuted and imprisoned.”

* * *

That inferential leap is not reasonable in light of the relevant facts, record, and law.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:59 pm Re Hutchinson's father -- my take was that she told the truth, which was painful and incredibly insightful.

In an earlier interview, she said that one of the things that -- five years earlier -- had attracted her to fuckhead: he reminded her of her father.

Her father, she relates, chose fuckhead over her, and treated her the way fuckhead treats people, with bullying and lies. I don't see any bus-backing going on. Rather, an incredibly painful truth, hammered home at the most vulnerable time in her life.

I also adore Butterfield. Funny, funny man.

Gregg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:28 pm

p0rtia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:59 pm Re Hutchinson's father -- my take was that she told the truth, which was painful and incredibly insightful.

In an earlier interview, she said that one of the things that -- five years earlier -- had attracted her to fuckhead: he reminded her of her father.

Her father, she relates, chose fuckhead over her, and treated her the way fuckhead treats people, with bullying and lies. I don't see any bus-backing going on. Rather, an incredibly painful truth, hammered home at the most vulnerable time in her life.

I also adore Butterfield. Funny, funny man.

You're probably right, but I just gotta say. My father was not always what i'd call enlightened. My faux racist comment I toss out sometimes about "well, not the colored folk" are the way my dad actually talked, in the 70s he talked that way a lot and as he aged and America kind of got better, he phased it out mostly. My point is, saint though he was for 90% of my memorites of him, he'd have to have done a lot more than have some really bad years when the crazy came for me to ever utter a word to anyone about him. And I was just listening to it as white noise so I wasn't fully in context, but it sounded like she was really laying into him, to me. And the amazing thing is, after telling this story about hwo bad "they" are and how ''they'' drove her father to that place.... she's still at best agnostic about leaving them in the mirror.

She won't vote for Trump but I'll bet good money that she's all in for any of the 7 dwarves who were at the Reagan Library the other night. She said as much.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:50 pm

Gregg wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:28 pm



She won't vote for Trump but I'll bet good money that she's all in for any of the 7 dwarves who were at the Reagan Library the other night. She said as much.

During an appearance on MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show,” Hutchinson told host Rachel Maddow that while she still considers herself a Republican, she doesn’t believe that her former employer is a “strong Republican.”

p0rtia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:36 am Regarding the above: I saw the interview with Rachel. I don't recall her making any positive statements about the 2024 Republican contenders.

Indeed, her primary thrust was to try to haul what's left of the GOP back to governance -- away from the lies and horrors of fuckhead.

Which is why I was surprised to hear that she had said she would support any current GOP candidate.

IMO she is using understatement to express the obvious when she says "not a strong Republican." I also assume she was talking about Mark Meadows, who is not running for president.

She was mighty forceful in her condemnation of her own acts and the acts of others who surrounded fuckhead, and who to this day act in his name (her take on McCarthy, for example, was scathing). I listened to three interviews she gave, for the record. Nicolle Wallace's was the best, because it was mostly about how she and others got sucked in, and what to do about it now to make people see the truth. Listening to her explain that it took over a year for her to fully realize that she had been a fool and, more tellingly, had believed a pack of lies, was fascinating to me.

Now, that said, I've heard a lot of people excoriating her for presumably keeping info for her book---a criticism which I think is without merit until we confirm that there is relevant material in her book that she did not tell the Jan 6 committee (just because _we_ hadn't heard it before means nothing). And plenty of people happily throw her in with the Bill Barrs and John Boltons of the world (Malcolm Nance's angry rant comes to mind). I just not one of them (with the caveat stated above that when she turns up in the future working for Mike Pence or someone of that ilk, I'm done).