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Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:01 pm
by Volkonski


The Russians are shelling an operating nuclear power plant!

Beyond stupid.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:04 pm
by Volkonski

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:08 pm
by neonzx

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:25 pm
by Luke
Ukraine Foreign Minister.
Dmytro Kuleba @DmytroKuleba 49m
Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Fire has already broke out. If it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chornobyl! Russians must IMMEDIATELY cease the fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone!

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:34 pm
by New Turtle
I hope nobody presses the AZ-5 button

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:00 pm
by neeneko
I guess this means Russia's generals are sufficiently behind Putin that they are willing to shell a nuclear plant. I was kinda hoping they were on the fence, since so little is coming out about their stance... but this suggests they are beyond hope.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:14 pm
by Luke
Fu*king Ian Miles Cheong, Malaysian RT & Rebel News contributor, says "nothing to see here".



Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:27 pm
by Chilidog
Volkonski wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:01 pm

The Russians are shelling an operating nuclear power plant!

Beyond stupid.
Environmental terrorism.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:32 pm
by AndyinPA
No link yet, but MSNBC saying fire is outside the nuclear plant.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:49 pm
by keith
raison de arizona wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:56 pm Well this seems bad.
🇺🇦 Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
Dmytro Kuleba @DmytroKuleba wrote: Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Fire has already broke out. If it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chornobyl! Russians must IMMEDIATELY cease the fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone!
I see nothing happening at all in that video

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:16 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
There's a fire on the right, mostly obscured by a small building.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:11 am
by AndyinPA
https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-n ... 4/?rpc=401&
WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - U.S. Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said on Thursday the reactors at Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station "are protected by robust containment structures and reactors are being safely shut down".

Granholm said on Twitter she had just spoken with Ukraine's energy minister about the situation at the plant, where a fire broke out during fighting between Russian and Ukrainian forces.
I think about half of Ukraine's electricity comes from nuclear reactors. Where will the people get their heating and electricity from if the reactors, or some of them, are shut down? That, I guess, is part of Putin's plan, such as it is.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:52 am
by Volkonski

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:19 am
by raison de arizona
keith wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:49 pm
raison de arizona wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:56 pm Well this seems bad.
🇺🇦 Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
https://twitter.com/AlisonR61423986/sta ... 59009?s=20
Dmytro Kuleba @DmytroKuleba wrote: Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Fire has already broke out. If it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chornobyl! Russians must IMMEDIATELY cease the fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone!
I see nothing happening at all in that video
It was a livestream, the action died out it appears, thankfully. Here’s what it looked like earlier.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:22 am
by Volkonski
Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
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52m
Secretary Blinken has arrived here at NATO HQ for meetings with
@jensstoltenberg
and NATO foreign ministers to discuss the war in Ukraine. Later he’ll meet with E.U. Ministers and European Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:04 am
by Volkonski

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:32 am
by andersweinstein
I found this thread informative about the attack on the nuclear power plant.


Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:18 am
by Chilidog
An interesting analysis of Russian army logistics and the problems in invading Ukraine.

The interesting part is that it was written last November.

https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feedi ... logistics/

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:23 am
by neonzx

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:52 am
by raison de arizona
Oops.
Alexander S. Vindman @AVindman wrote: Reports of a significant armor engagement in a suburb of Kyiv, …between Russian forces. Friendly fire restulted in the loss of 9 tanks and 4 infantry fighting vehicles.
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Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:53 am
by neeneko
Damn. Now that is some weapons grade snark.

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:08 pm
by Volkonski
ian bremmer
@ianbremmer
·
2h
51% of people in sweden—which hasn’t been in a war since 1814—now in favor of joining nato.
first time a majority has responded in favor
thanks to putin

-demoskop/aftonbladet poll

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:12 pm
by Volkonski

Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:19 pm
by andersweinstein
This labelled google maps image from the New York Times helps understand the orientation of what happened at the reactor site. It seems there was a firefight directed at an ancillary building (some sources are calling it a training facility) adjacent to the reactor complex proper. The surveillance camera whose images we saw would be pointed downward along the road in front of it with the fire going right to left across that road.



Here's the building the next morning:


Re: Russia Invades Ukraine

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:33 pm
by Foggy
Un-retweet is a very 21st century verb. I can but gape in wonder. :?