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raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:55 am I was listening to Kilmeade on the radio this morning (I think it was Kilmeade, sounded like him,) he was trying to excuse the whole document-gate as Trump "just trying to hold on to mementos from the WH, no big deal."

What is Kilmeade going to say when they show up on eBay?

You know his thought process is that after a couple of years, no one will notice him selling off his 'love letters'.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:15 pm

MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:04 pm Other nations give gifts to the current president. They belong to the United States government. I guess presidents can buy those from the government if they want to keep them. How much do you want to bet that Trump has a boatload of presidential gifts that he just took?

As I recall, the Clintons took a bunch of stuff they ultimately had to return. FWIW.

It's definitely worth pointing out, for context.

On one of the shows yesterday, they had an ex National Archives dude on saying that they regularly have to chase down stuff that is improperly taken when an administration leaves the White House. He spoke of confusion over gifts and household/work items. Nothing anywhere near what happened with TFG.

p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:09 amFlushGate

My husband, ever the typical guy, calls it #Shittergate. It's actually more descriptive.

Plungergate gets my vote.

The back of my head says there's a song in there someplace based on the music from Mr. Sandman (particularly the bum bum bum part).

filly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:21 pm

p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:09 amFlushGate

My husband, ever the typical guy, calls it #Shittergate. It's actually more descriptive.

I'm teased by the memory of Paper Towel Gate. Keep thinking there should be some clever connection involving Paper Products.

Maybe Bounty Gate. Does Bounty make tp?

I like PlungerGate that's name in the tweet above thread.

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Oh. Some were marked “top secret.” This is becoming cartoonish.
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Some Trump records that were taken to Mar-a-Lago were clearly marked as classified, including documents at the ‘top secret’ level https://washingtonpost.com/politics/202 ... lassified/
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“Trump was very secretive about the packing of boxes that were retrieved from Mar-a-Lago last month, and did not let other aides — including some of his most senior advisers — look at them, according to people close to him.”

p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:36 pm

filly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:21 pm

p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:09 amFlushGate

My husband, ever the typical guy, calls it #Shittergate. It's actually more descriptive.

I'm teased by the memory of Paper Towel Gate. Keep thinking there should be some clever connection involving Paper Products.

Maybe Bounty Gate. Does Bounty make tp?

How many times have you seen signs in women’s bathrooms warning not to flush Kotex? Some smart person could use that Trump would hate being compared to a woman! But #Shiittergate is good too!

I think SNL might ha e a field day with this one.

You have to wonder if "sources" were telling reporters this stuff so that they would be reporting it...



Interesting bit of video from Dec 2019 in this context, especially since we know that "many people" means one person - him.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1203050874358181888

Here's Trump saying that he's heard from many people complaining about "flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times."

Also further detail

https://twitter.com/Angry_Staffer/statu ... 1405420544

Angry Staffer@Angry_Staffer

There was some SCI in there too.

He’s screwed.

For those asking:

SCI is “sensitive compartmented information” — also known as code-word intelligence — meaning these are the programs that you have to be “read in” to, and divulging that information is a felony that the government does *not* play about.

Thing is, as President, technically he could declassify whatever he liked. So he might hide behind that as a defense...

this was part of the orange anus's executive time

filly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:13 pm

p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:36 pm

filly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:21 pm

My husband, ever the typical guy, calls it #Shittergate. It's actually more descriptive.

I'm teased by the memory of Paper Towel Gate. Keep thinking there should be some clever connection involving Paper Products.

Maybe Bounty Gate. Does Bounty make tp?

How many times have you seen signs in women’s bathrooms warning not to flush Kotex? Some smart person could use that Trump would hate being compared to a woman! But #Shiittergate is good too!

https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/statu ... 5079971840

Asha Rangappa
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I don’t know who needs to hear this, but if you become aware that someone may have committed a federal felony, it’s important to call the FBI and not save it for your next book

I seem to remember that Maggie H sat down with trump for hours of "Exclusive access" for her book. I have a feeling that apart from this detail to get people buying the thing, the book will be mainly about the rays of light that shine from his rear end.

The information that has come out as a result of this revelation, about all the hiding and stealing of confidential documentation, is probably unintentional, and FAAAARRR more interesting.

Suranis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:34 pm Thing is, as President, technically he could declassify whatever he liked. So he might hide behind that as a defense...

He could, but he can't now.

IIRC there is more to declassification than DJT saying "I declassified that before I packed it"

tek wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:35 am

Suranis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:34 pm Thing is, as President, technically he could declassify whatever he liked. So he might hide behind that as a defense...

He could, but he can't now.

IIRC there is more to declassification than DJT saying "I declassified that before I packed it"

Remember, early in his presidency, he met with some Russian officials and handed them some classified documents? There was a bit of a stink about it, but, the furor died down and the concensus seemed to be that the act of giving them to the Russians constituted declassifying them.

Theoretically, he could argue that, similarly, the act of removing them from the WH (as long as he did it before noon on Jan. 20, 2021) effectively declassified them. I think that argument is BS.

I seriously doubt that TFG will be formally charged with illegally removing classified material, although I think that he should be.

Bradley P. Moss', a national security lawyer's, opinion on the documents -

MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:56 am Bradley P. Moss', a national security lawyer's, opinion on the documents -

I was going to post this yesterday. I wonder what David Petraeus thinks about this situation?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... reelection

Hungary’s far-right prime minister Viktor Orbán is hoping Donald Trump will travel to Budapest in the coming weeks to boost his reelection campaign.

A thinktank linked to the Orbán government, the Centre for Fundamental Rights, has issued an invitation to Trump, a government source told The Guardian.

The invitation comes as Orbán moves into campaigning mode ahead of a closely fought election due on 3 April, when his Fidesz party will face a united opposition coalition, in what is seen as the biggest challenge to his rule since he became prime minister 12 years ago.

Remember, early in his presidency, he met with some Russian officials and handed them some classified documents?

No, I don't remember that. I remember him meeting with Lavrov in the Oval and him telling Lavrov highly classified stuff involving another country (probably Israel).

filly wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:06 pm

Remember, early in his presidency, he met with some Russian officials and handed them some classified documents?

No, I don't remember that. I remember him meeting with Lavrov in the Oval and him telling Lavrov highly classified stuff involving another country (probably Israel).

looks like it was verbal
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/15/52851198 ... ouse-visit

Trump went on to discuss aspects of the threat that the United States learned only through the espionage capabilities of a key partner. He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying circumstances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State's territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.