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Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:02 am
by Phoenix520
You do, do you?
C’mere, I’ve got some great land on Mars you might be interested in… :lol:

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:34 pm
by Dr. Ken
It wasn't just secret service


Big time cover-up

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:09 pm
by Dave from down under
Failed coup..

Had it succeeded then those messages would have been kept to show loyalty to El Presidente King Donnie I

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:08 am
by raison de arizona
Rusty Bowers, AZ House Speaker, is paying the price for his January 6th Committee testimony tonight. Things are looking bleak.
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Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:09 pm
by Kendra
Well then, Alex's day just keeps getting worse :popcorn:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... a-1392270/
The January 6th House committee is preparing to request the trove of Alex Jones’s text messages and emails revealed Wednesday in a defamation lawsuit filed by victims of the Sandy Hook massacre, Rolling Stone has learned.

On Wednesday, Sandy Hook victims’ attorney Mark Bankston told Jones that his attorney had mistakenly sent Bankston three years worth of the conspiracy theorist’s emails and text messages copied from his phone.

Now — a source familiar with the matter and another person briefed on it tell Rolling Stone — the January 6th committee is preparing to request that data from the plaintiff attorneys in order to aid its investigation of the insurrection. These internal deliberations among the committee, which is probing former President Donald Trump’s role in causing the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol riot, began within minutes of the lawyer’s revelation being heard on the trial’s livestream on Wednesday afternoon.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:26 pm
by Maybenaut
Kendra wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:09 pm Well then, Alex's day just keeps getting worse :popcorn:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... a-1392270/
The January 6th House committee is preparing to request the trove of Alex Jones’s text messages and emails revealed Wednesday in a defamation lawsuit filed by victims of the Sandy Hook massacre, Rolling Stone has learned.

On Wednesday, Sandy Hook victims’ attorney Mark Bankston told Jones that his attorney had mistakenly sent Bankston three years worth of the conspiracy theorist’s emails and text messages copied from his phone.

Now — a source familiar with the matter and another person briefed on it tell Rolling Stone — the January 6th committee is preparing to request that data from the plaintiff attorneys in order to aid its investigation of the insurrection. These internal deliberations among the committee, which is probing former President Donald Trump’s role in causing the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol riot, began within minutes of the lawyer’s revelation being heard on the trial’s livestream on Wednesday afternoon.
From the article:
The documents were turned over after Jones’ attorney “did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protected in any way and as of two days ago it fell free and clear into my possession,” Bankston told Jones in court Wednesday. “That is how I know you lied to me.”
If Jones' attorney had tried to claw it back Bankston would have had to return it all and keep his mouth shut. Sucks to be Jones' attorney.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:44 pm
by RTH10260
Maybenaut wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:26 pm :snippity:

From the article:
The documents were turned over after Jones’ attorney “did not take any steps to identify it as privileged or protected in any way and as of two days ago it fell free and clear into my possession,” Bankston told Jones in court Wednesday. “That is how I know you lied to me.”
If Jones' attorney had tried to claw it back Bankston would have had to return it all and keep his mouth shut. Sucks to be Jones' attorney.
In the Alex Jones thread it was explained that Bankston notified Jones' attorney and waited the regular time (like 12 days?) for the sender to request stuff be returned. Eternal silence.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:44 pm
by bob
Maybenaut wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:26 pmIf Jones' attorney had tried to claw it back Bankston would have had to return it all and keep his mouth shut. Sucks to be Jones' attorney.
Part of me wants to believe this was an act of self-preservation by Jones' attorney.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:49 pm
by Maybenaut
bob wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:44 pm
Maybenaut wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:26 pmIf Jones' attorney had tried to claw it back Bankston would have had to return it all and keep his mouth shut. Sucks to be Jones' attorney.
Part of me wants to believe this was an act of self-preservation by Jones' attorney.
Yeah, perhaps. When you know you're client's lying to the other side...

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:33 pm
by Gregg
Or it could be a cased of going to trial with your 7th round draft pick.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:42 pm
by Volkonski

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:42 pm
by Frater I*I
Gregg wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:33 pm Or it could be a cased of going to trial with your 7th round draft pick.
More like an undrafted free agent....

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:52 pm
by Tiredretiredlawyer
bob wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:44 pm
Maybenaut wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:26 pmIf Jones' attorney had tried to claw it back Bankston would have had to return it all and keep his mouth shut. Sucks to be Jones' attorney.
Part of me wants to believe this was an act of self-preservation by Jones' attorney.
Same here. This might be mitigation for any sanctions the judge might order for failure to provide discovery. Too, also, maybe he's hoping the judge won't refer him for disciplinary proceedings. Also, too, the texts may not be "privileged" if they were properly requested in discovery.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:53 pm
by Tiredretiredlawyer
Frater I*I wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:42 pm
Gregg wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:33 pm Or it could be a cased of going to trial with your 7th round draft pick.
More like an undrafted free agent....
:yeahthat:

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:31 am
by Kendra
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... og-report/
The Homeland Security watchdog now under scrutiny for his handling of deleted Secret Service text messages from the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol previously was accused of misleading federal investigators and running “afoul” of ethics regulations while he was in charge of a Justice Department inspector general field office in Tucson, according to a newly disclosed government report.

In the 2013 report from the Justice Department’s inspector general, which was never publicly released, investigators said they did “not believe” Joseph V. Cuffari’s explanation for why he failed to inform his supervisors — against federal rules — about his testimony in a lawsuit brought by a federal prisoner.

Separately, they found that Cuffari broke ethics rules by referring law firms to the prisoner’s family, including firms where some of his close friends worked. “We concluded Cuffari’s actions violated the [inspector general] manual’s prohibition on unethical conduct,” said the report, which also noted that he may have violated guidelines by using his government email to lobby for a position as inspector general for the Arizona National Guard, among other issues.
Do read. Wow.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:49 pm
by Kendra

Rep Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) tells
@juliemason

@SXMPOTUS
the Jan 6 committee still wants to talk to Alex Jones. “His advocacy of violence… quite clearly played a role on the 6th. We’d like to know more about it”

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:12 pm
by Kendra
Seeing a note at the CNN sidebar (or whatever they call it). Says Liz Cheney's got an interview this evening with Anderson Cooper. 8PM eastern, which should be 5PM my time. Will she have comments about getting Alex's phone data? :batting:

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:58 pm
by Kendra

Scoop: Doug Mastriano is threatening to pull out of a scheduled interview with the Jan. 6 committee, teeing up a potential court fight

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:05 pm
by raison de arizona
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Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:30 pm
by Kendra
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... 37df565105

The U.S. Secret Service has given the House Jan. 6 committee a listing of all personal cell phone numbers belonging to agents based in Washington, D.C., for the period the panel is investigating, according to sources familiar with the matter -- an unusual step amid heightened scrutiny of the agency's cooperation with the congressional panel investigating last year's insurrection and the role then-President Donald Trump played in it.
The committee can now determine which agents' call records they may want to review and, if they decide to do so, could either request records from the agents directly or conceivably issue subpoenas to their cell phone providers, an official familiar with the situation explained.

MORE: Secret Service deleted texts from Jan. 5 and 6, 2021, after watchdog sought records
The Secret Service and Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the agency, have faced criticism in recent weeks for wiping text messages belonging to agents on and around Jan. 6, 2021. Congressional Democrats have accused the Homeland Security inspector general of abandoning efforts to collect text and phone records from that day.

Seeking and obtaining information from personal devices from federal workers is a "highly unusual" step by the committee, according to Don Mihalek, a retired senior Secret Service agent, and could reflect a renewed effort by the agency to further demonstrate its cooperation with congressional investigators.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:24 am
by RTH10260
Kendra wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:30 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA10nQis?

:snippity:
:snippity:

Seeking and obtaining information from personal devices from federal workers is a "highly unusual" step by the committee, according to Don Mihalek, a retired senior Secret Service agent, and could reflect a renewed effort by the agency to further demonstrate its cooperation with congressional investigators.
Personal devices, like bring-your-own, or personal like government issued to a federal worker? If used for government business the record retention requirements are to be followed on both kind.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:17 am
by Ben-Prime
RTH10260 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:24 am
Kendra wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:30 pm https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA10nQis?

:snippity:
:snippity:

Seeking and obtaining information from personal devices from federal workers is a "highly unusual" step by the committee, according to Don Mihalek, a retired senior Secret Service agent, and could reflect a renewed effort by the agency to further demonstrate its cooperation with congressional investigators.
Personal devices, like bring-your-own, or personal like government issued to a federal worker? If used for government business the record retention requirements are to be followed on both kind.
Even if BYOD, I can say that at least one federal agency has specific policies about what happens if we use personal devices to send or receive work-related emails. I can only imagine others do likewise since it's intended for compliance with laws on records retention and destruction.

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:02 pm
by Volkonski

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:26 pm
by much ado
Is anything definitive known about the number and date range of the Alex Jones texts?

Re: January 6 Select Committee

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:16 pm
by Kendra

Doug Mastriano, who was on the restricted grounds of the Capitol on Jan. 6, is set to appear for a virtual deposition with the Jan. 6 Committee on Tuesday, his attorney confirms
@JulesJester
.