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One day before SUPER TUESDAY! March 4, 2024. T****'s impassioned pleas for a later dated DENNNIED. Judge said she spoke to the NY judge to discuss the dates. That call must have been epic. We're going to need a calendar soon ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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@Brandi_Buchman's posts from the hearing on Threadreader.
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Epic, but not 'perfect'.orlylicious wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:42 am One day before SUPER TUESDAY! March 4, 2024. T****'s impassioned pleas for a later dated DENNNIED. Judge said she spoke to the NY judge to discuss the dates. That call must have been epic. We're going to need a calendar soon![]()
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Trump will do everything he can to delay it.
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I loved it when the Molly Gaston used Lauro's TV blabbings about the case against him.
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Can't help myself.. Chita and Gwen's version.orlylicious wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:42 am One day before SUPER TUESDAY! March 4, 2024. T****'s impassioned pleas for a later dated DENNNIED. Judge said she spoke to the NY judge to discuss the dates. That call must have been epic. We're going to need a calendar soon
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One Twitter poster suggested that if Trump's lawyers hadn't been so outrageous and asked for a trial date two years in the future, they might have gotten a date other then one six months from now.
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Andrew Weissmann's comment: "Thoroughly unprofessional statement by Lauro" to Lauro's statement: "We will certainly abide by your honor's ruling, as we must. We will not be able to provide adequate representation ... the trial date will deny President Trump the opportunity to have effective assistance of counsel."
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Sounds like the perfect lie errrrr excuse for trump losing in court.
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INDICTED (INDICATED) #3 USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Maybe he just sucks at lawyering.
INDICTED (INDICATED) #3 USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
You have 6 months to hammer your clients mouth shut, Councillor. and beat some sense into his brain. I think you can find way to buy a hammer.
Anyway Axios has a stab at a timeline
Anyway Axios has a stab at a timeline
Hic sunt dracones
INDICTED (INDICATED) #3 USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
So this "not enough time" will certainly be an issue on appeal when (not if) he lands some convictions.
Can the AALs fill us in on what the parameters of "not enough time" look like legally?
Can the AALs fill us in on what the parameters of "not enough time" look like legally?
INDICTED (INDICATED) #3 USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Generally speaking, appellate courts will review the amount of pretrial preparation permitted, and the denial of continuances, for an abuse of discretion. Which is a high bar; appellate courts regularly defer to a trial court's discretion.
So if there is an appeal, expect this to be raised (and lose).
Every defendant has the right to effective counsel, and the inability to prepare is a very legitimate ground. But a lawyer who intentionally creates delay (by intentionally not preparing) can be removed from the case, sanctioned, referred for discipline, etc.
And no real lawyer wants a court to rule their representation was ineffective.*
But this is not an ordinary case; maybe one of these chuckleheads can be convinced to torpedo their legal career and go full And-Justice-For-All, just to create enough delay.
E.g.:
Defense counsel is playing to the cheap seats. In a regular case, zealously advocate, sure. But make your record and move on.
* It does happen, though; some true believers will say out loud, "I don't care if I'm found to be incompetent if it spares my client from [the likely sentence]." But you only get to say that if you are (1) very certain you are correct, or (2) very certain you are about to retire and don't care.
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The trial is rigged!Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:55 pm Sounds like the perfect lie errrrr excuse for trump losing in court.
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INDICTED (INDICATED) #3 USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Surely Lauro was laying the ground for a future appeal on the grounds of ineffective counsel and perhaps he is so stoopid that he doesn't understand how being that provider of ineffective counsel will drop on him and the flaming ashes of his reputation.
Well, Lauro is stoopid enough to be Trump's attorney, so I think it's almost impossible for us rational folk to appreciate what happens inside his underpowered misfiring brainbox.
Well, Lauro is stoopid enough to be Trump's attorney, so I think it's almost impossible for us rational folk to appreciate what happens inside his underpowered misfiring brainbox.
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Text from the above tweet -
Marc Elias' comment: "Dec. 4 is going to be a day to watch. 404b is evidence of other crimes, wrongs, or acts."UPDATE: We have the full trial schedule from Chutkan
Oct. 9: Pretrial motions
Dec. 4: 404b evidence
Dec. 11: Disclosure of expert witnesses
Dec. 18: Disclosure of exhibits
Dec. 27: Motions in limine
Jan. 15: Proposed voir dire questions/jury instructions
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The quadfectee will pull a Brunson and grift off the inevitable appeals.
And unless a stay is granted (hint: that won't happen), the trial remains on the schedule (unless the trial judge changes it).
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Is anybody else just sick to death of all this? ![I Can't Hear You! :notlistening:](./images/smilies/notlistening.gif)
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The question, though, becomes, do we start having other threads for each, or some combination thereof, of the fellow indicted co-conspirators?
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