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neeneko wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:52 am What is scary is that it sounds like he expected world leaders to rise up and reject the Biden presidency kinda how like the US will decide if a leader of some 3rd world country is legitimate or not and restrict their access to things like foreign assets.

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:47 pm

neeneko wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:52 am What is scary is that it sounds like he expected world leaders to rise up and reject the Biden presidency kinda how like the US will decide if a leader of some 3rd world country is legitimate or not and restrict their access to things like foreign assets.

That's what he did expect.

noblepa wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:01 pm

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:47 pm

neeneko wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:52 am What is scary is that it sounds like he expected world leaders to rise up and reject the Biden presidency kinda how like the US will decide if a leader of some 3rd world country is legitimate or not and restrict their access to things like foreign assets.

That's what he did expect.

Has that ever worked when the US tried it? Has any country, faced with the US threatening (or actually) to not recognize their newly elected leader, backed down and said "Oh, well, if the US doesn't like it, we'll just have to elect someone else"?

I'm not saying that it is a bad policy, but, even when a country with the size and both military and economic clout of the US can't convince a banana republic to overturn their elections, how can anyone expect the tactic to work on us?

noblepa wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:01 pm

pipistrelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:47 pm

neeneko wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:52 am What is scary is that it sounds like he expected world leaders to rise up and reject the Biden presidency kinda how like the US will decide if a leader of some 3rd world country is legitimate or not and restrict their access to things like foreign assets.

That's what he did expect.

Has that ever worked when the US tried it? Has any country, faced with the US threatening (or actually) to not recognize their newly elected leader, backed down and said "Oh, well, if the US doesn't like it, we'll just have to elect someone else"?

I'm not saying that it is a bad policy, but, even when a country with the size and both military and economic clout of the US can't convince a banana republic to overturn their elections, how can anyone expect the tactic to work on us?

SuzieC wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:51 pm Has Asshole offered one word of condolence to the Dole family upon the death of 98 year old former Senator and Republican Presidential nominee Bob Dole? IIRC Dole endorsed him. Twice.

Many of you may dislike Dole but I am sad to see all the WWII vets passing away. My Dad was a WWII vet who lived well into his nineties, though did not reach the great age of 98.

Until Dole's death this week, half of the contenders in the 1976 Presidential race were still alive. Jimmy soldiers on. Our longest living ex-President.

Washington (CNN)Bob Dole, the longtime US senator from Kansas and 1996 Republican presidential nominee, said that while he is still "a Trumper," he is "sort of Trumped out," in an interview published Thursday by USA Today.

Dole also said he believes former President Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential election and noted that there is no evidence of election fraud, contrary to Trump's repeated claims.

"He lost the election, and I regret that he did, but they did," Dole told USA Today's Susan Page. "He had Rudy Giuliani running all over the country, claiming fraud. He never had one bit of fraud in all those lawsuits he filed and statements he made."

Dole is among the most prominent members of the Republican establishment who has stood by Trump. He endorsed Trump for President in 2016 and hasn't engaged in the public criticism levied by other living past GOP presidential nominees George W. Bush and Mitt Romney. Dole has also plainly recognized Joe Biden's legitimacy as President.

Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:38 pm
If he's in favor of someone, he'll say "great guy" but it has to be based on what that person did for Trump. And when the great guy inevitably falls out of favor, further on down the road, he finally admits: "I barely knew him." Because he doesn't know anyone well besides, including himself.

neonzx wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:00 pm

SuzieC wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:51 pm Has Asshole offered one word of condolence to the Dole family upon the death of 98 year old former Senator and Republican Presidential nominee Bob Dole? IIRC Dole endorsed him. Twice.

Many of you may dislike Dole but I am sad to see all the WWII vets passing away. My Dad was a WWII vet who lived well into his nineties, though did not reach the great age of 98.

Until Dole's death this week, half of the contenders in the 1976 Presidential race were still alive. Jimmy soldiers on. Our longest living ex-President.

I don't think he's issued any statement regarding Bob Dole. I do miss Dole talking in third-person of himself. Never voted for him.

Statement from President Carter on Sen. Bob Dole
Dec. 5, 2021
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Rosalynn and I are deeply saddened to learn of the death of former Sen. Robert Dole. A true leader, Bob was willing to work across political parties to make progress on important issues. He showed that our differences need not divide us, but can foster effective answers to our nation’s most difficult problems. His unrelenting efforts enriched the lives of countless people in need, including military personnel, veterans, and their caregivers. We extend our condolences to his wife, Elizabeth, their family, and friends.