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Kendra wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:06 pm
Dave from down under wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 7:01 pm Isn’t leaving the scene of a collision an offence?
That's what I was wondering.
It depends. The law usually requires you exchange info with all drivers involved, but leaving after that is usually not a problem unless a police report is needed for insurance. People around here get around that by reporting it as a hit and run.

If there are injuries, that might change.
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Because, ya know, this is Floriduh....

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/orang ... -deviation

Some Florida school districts requiring permission slips to use students' nicknames
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. - If your child has a nickname they go by in school, some Florida school districts are requiring parents sign a permission slip for the upcoming school year.

Students who wish to be called anything other than their legal name in school will need their parents to sign off, according to memos sent to parents by Orange County Public Schools and Seminole County Public Schools.

Spokespersons for Marion County Schools and Volusia County Schools confirmed to FOX 35 that they have plans to issue similar memos, but have not sent them out yet. FOX 35 has reached out to the other districts in Central Florida and will update our story when we receive a response.

This new rule comes amid legislation adopted in July that requires school boards to implement a policy for educational records. School districts will in turn develop a form for parents to provide any required documents.

That form, which is available below, must be used for all deviations of a child's legal name.
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Hopefully Foghorn does not put this policy in place here or else we are all screwed. My parents are deceased so no permission slip would be forth coming.

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DeSantis Suspends Second Elected Prosecutor in Florida
The Republican governor accused Monique H. Worrell, the state attorney in Orlando and a Democrat, of leniency against violent criminals, a charge her office has denied.

Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida suspended the top state prosecutor in Orlando on Wednesday, accusing her of incompetence and neglect of duty for what he characterized as lenience against violent criminals.

Mr. DeSantis suspended Monique H. Worrell, the elected state attorney of Florida’s Ninth Judicial Circuit, which includes Orange and Osceola counties, and cited her handling of three cases. One involved a man who shot and injured two Orlando police officers over the weekend.

It is the second time in a year that Mr. DeSantis, a Republican running for president, has taken the drastic and exceedingly rare step of removing an elected state attorney. Both have been Democrats.

Mr. DeSantis was heavily criticized in August 2022 when he removed Andrew H. Warren, the top prosecutor in Tampa, who had signed a statement along with 90 other elected prosecutors across the country vowing not to prosecute people who seek or provide abortions. Critics, and even a federal judge, decried Mr. DeSantis’s ouster of Mr. Warren as politically motivated. But Mr. Warren remains out of office — and Mr. DeSantis mentions his removal in just about every campaign stump speech.
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Florida’s Voice @FLVoiceNews wrote: JUST IN: Suspended State Attorney Monique Worrell calls Gov. Ron DeSantis a "dictator"

"This is an outrage [...] There used to be a very high standard for the removal of elected officials."

"Under this tyranny, elected officials can be removed simply for political purposes." (Video/
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New College is a warning about the price of populist incompetence
What happens when inexperienced radicals can't run public services

DON MOYNIHAN - AUG 17, 2023
They were careless people, Rufo and DeSantis – they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their ideology or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.

Competence, the ability to perform organizational core tasks, is an underrated quality. In its presence, we take it for granted. We miss it only in its absence. It is an especially overlooked quality by people who value other things, like ideological goals, or people who believe that existing institutions are fundamentally corrupt, or people who have never actually run things.
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As the new semester starts, New College is an administrative disaster. One third of faculty have gone. Students cannot find classes. Students with housing contracts are being relocated to an airport hotel.

The mismanagement of the New College is entirely predictable. It is a product of the DeSantis school of public management. Experienced administrators were pushed out. They were replaced by political cronies. The new President is a former GOP House speaker, who was handed a salary more than double than that of his predecessor. The new Dean of Students is a lobbyist. Trustees were selected for their ideological leanings rather than experience.

Faculty feel excluded given hostile messaging of the new trustees, cancelation of majors for ideological reasons, and the preemptory denial of tenure by the same trustees of five faculty without any actual review.
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This is an excellent example of what he would do to the rest of the country if he got anywhere near the presidency. For that matter, I'm sure there are quite a number of republican contenders that are about as bad.
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I wonder why this reminds me so much of Russia run by the Communist Party :think:
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DeSantis struggles to shake Hurricane Idalia’s dark clouds after snub to Biden
Florida governor aims to rescue flailing presidential campaign that has been further scarred by ‘petty and small’ snub of Biden’s visit

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Fri 8 Sep 2023 12.00 BST

One reality of Florida politics is that a bad hurricane for the state traditionally blows good fortune for its governor. It was true for Rick Scott, elected a senator in November 2018, one month after guiding Florida through Category 5 Hurricane Michael; and again for Ron DeSantis, whose landslide re-election last year followed his much-praised handling of the aftermath of Hurricane Ian.

This year, however, DeSantis is struggling to shake the dark clouds of Hurricane Idalia, as his return to the national stage to try to rescue his flailing presidential campaign after an 11-day break has been further scarred by his “petty and small” snub of Joe Biden’s visit to Florida last weekend to survey the storm’s damage.

Opponents seized on it as a partisan politicization of a climate disaster, contrasting the Republican Florida governor’s approach to a year ago after Ian, when DeSantis and Biden put their differences aside to praise each other and tour the worst-affected areas with their respective first ladies.

“Your job as governor is to be the tour guide for the president, to make sure the president sees your people, sees the damage, sees the suffering, what’s going on and what needs to be done to rebuild it,” Chris Christie, the former New Jersey governor, and a rival for the Republican presidential nomination, told Fox News Radio’s Brian Kilmeade.

“You’re doing your job. And unfortunately, he put politics ahead of his job,” added Christie, who was applauded by Democrats and savaged by Republicans for working closely with Barack Obama after superstorm Sandy mauled his state in 2012.




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DeSantis backs Florida surgeon general in urging residents against new vaccines
Democrats say deaths will follow false claim by Dr Joseph Ladapo that new boosters were not tested on humans

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Sat 9 Sep 2023 13.00 BST

Covid-19 deaths are inevitable in Florida, Democrats are warning, after rightwing Republican governor Ron DeSantis joined the state’s controversial surgeon general in urging residents to ignore public health advice and avoid new vaccines targeting a resurgence of the virus.

The extraordinary advice came at a feisty press conference in Jacksonville this week that was also marred by an unseemly shouting match between DeSantis, a candidate for his party’s presidential nomination, and a Black Air Force veteran.

Lashing out at what he called the “medical authoritarianism” of mask mandates and other anti-Covid measures, DeSantis accused federal health agencies of being “basically an arm of Big Pharma” as they mulled authorizing the vaccines as early as next week.

“Pharma will make more money if this thing is approved and they start pushing it on everybody,” said DeSantis, touting Florida’s “freedom” from vaccine mandates.

DeSantis is lagging badly in the race for his party’s 2024 nomination, but his campaign has forged a rightwing agenda that has seemed at times to outflank even that of dominant frontrunner Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, Dr Joseph Ladapo, the governor’s hand-picked surgeon general and a vaccine skeptic previously found to have manipulated data on vaccine safety, falsely claimed the new booster shots had not been tested on humans, and contained “red flags”.

Earlier this week, the nation’s two leading vaccine manufacturers, Moderna and Pfizer, released data showing a strong response in its updated vaccines against Covid strains fueling a rise in cases across the country.

In Florida this week, the overall pandemic death toll passed 90,000, and the weekly number of reported new cases was almost 24,000 for a second consecutive week, up from 7,320 in June.



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Thousands donate to save Florida abortion clinic amid crippling state fines
Center of Orlando for Women ordered to pay $193,000 for contravening state law requiring 24-hour waiting period

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Mon 4 Sep 2023 10.00 BST

Just a few weeks ago, one of the few abortion clinics left in Orlando, Florida, looked like it would have to close its doors. A government agency had ordered it to pay $193,000 in fines – enough to potentially bankrupt the clinic.

But supporters of the clinic, the Center of Orlando for Women, had an idea: they would crowdfund the money to keep it open. Within days, they succeeded.

As of Friday, the fundraiser had amassed more than $199,000 from roughly 5,500 donors. Many of the donations were less than $50.

“I’ll never forget how those protesters traumatized me as a scared teen making the hardest decision of my life,” wrote one donor who gave $5. “I one day hope to go back there and support women the way you do.”

Had the Center of Orlando for Women gone dark, abortion patients across the south would have been affected. Because Florida is one of the few southern states that still permits abortion, it saw a greater surge in patients seeking the procedure than any other state in the country after Roe v Wade collapsed last year, according to researchers from the Society of Family Planning.

But the future of the procedure in the state is decidedly uncertain. Although Florida already bans abortion past 15 weeks of pregnancy, Ron DeSantis, the governor, signed a six-week abortion ban into law earlier this year. (It is currently on hold pending a review by the state’s supreme court of the 15-week ban.)

The fines arose from a 2015 law that mandated patients wait 24 hours between getting an initial consultation for an abortion and undergoing the procedure. Litigation put that law on ice for seven years, but in April last year, a judge agreed to let it take effect. A few weeks later, that judge issued a court order confirming that the 24-hour waiting period was now law.

There was one problem with that order, according to Julie Gallagher, an attorney for the Center of Orlando for Women: no one told the center about it.

Over the course of three weeks in April and May last year, the center called the Agency for Health Care Administration – the Florida bureau that regulates abortion – more than a dozen times, trying to get information about the 24-hour law, according to court records and notes from the clinic.

“The agency wouldn’t tell them anything,” Gallagher said. “You’re calling the regulators to try to get some guidance on what your current obligations are. And they’re saying they don’t know. Well, they knew. They just weren’t telling.”

The Agency of Health Care Administration ultimately accused the Center of Orlando for Women of performing 193 abortions without waiting the now-required 24 hours, according to court records. The agency then fined the center $1,000 for each of those abortions – almost three times more than a judge’s recommendation.



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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... eph-ladapo
Covid-19 deaths are inevitable in Florida, Democrats are warning, after rightwing Republican governor Ron DeSantis joined the state’s controversial surgeon general in urging residents to ignore public health advice and avoid new vaccines targeting a resurgence of the virus.

The extraordinary advice came at a feisty press conference in Jacksonville this week that was also marred by an unseemly shouting match between DeSantis, a candidate for his party’s presidential nomination, and a Black Air Force veteran.

Lashing out at what he called the “medical authoritarianism” of mask mandates and other anti-Covid measures, DeSantis accused federal health agencies of being “basically an arm of Big Pharma” as they mulled authorizing the vaccines as early as next week.
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The newest booster is supposed to be available in the next couple of weeks and we will be first in line, that I can guarantee you. Also, fuck DeSantis and his worthless surgeon general.

That will just mean more Republicans too sick to vote.
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The newest booster is supposed to be available in the next couple of weeks and we will be first in line
Us too!!!!!!!! :biggrin:
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us too
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RTH10260 wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:07 am older, may be duplicate
Over the course of three weeks in April and May last year, the center called the Agency for Health Care Administration – the Florida bureau that regulates abortion – more than a dozen times, trying to get information about the 24-hour law, according to court records and notes from the clinic.

“The agency wouldn’t tell them anything,” Gallagher said. “You’re calling the regulators to try to get some guidance on what your current obligations are. And they’re saying they don’t know. Well, they knew. They just weren’t telling.”

The Agency of Health Care Administration ultimately accused the Center of Orlando for Women of performing 193 abortions without waiting the now-required 24 hours, according to court records. The agency then fined the center $1,000 for each of those abortions – almost three times more than a judge’s recommendation.
I am noticing a bit of a trend with conservative law enforcement telling people one thing then turning around to arrest them for doing as they were told. It concerns me how readily judges have been going along with this, and there really need to be some legal consequences.
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The Intellectualist @highbrow_nobrow wrote: Ron DeSantis: "I think the danger from Congress is if we lose the election, they’re going to try to nationalize abortion up until the moment of birth. And in some liberal states, you have post-birth abortions and think that is wrong." @justinbaragona
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Conservative states delight in having post-birth abortion. They call it "the death penalty."
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I would love for one of these mofos to give us a legit proof of any case where a woman LEGALLY killed her child after it was born.
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The rubes buying this shit is, well, it sucks but they're not the smartest people in the class now, are they?

But DeSantis is not stupid, Yale and Harvard Law kind of leads me to think he knows that the "up until and even after the moment of birth" is not just bullshit, it's not even logical bullshit. He's just throwing chum in the water because he's that desperate to suck up on the right side of Mango Mussolini.

That is what really pisses me off.
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Gregg wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:03 pm The rubes buying this shit is, well, it sucks but they're not the smartest people in the class now, are they?

That is what really pisses me off.
Well, they don't even get how much contempt he has for them.
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Gregg wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:03 pm The rubes buying this shit is, well, it sucks but they're not the smartest people in the class now, are they?

But DeSantis is not stupid, Yale and Harvard Law kind of leads me to think he knows that the "up until and even after the moment of birth" is not just bullshit, it's not even logical bullshit. He's just throwing chum in the water because he's that desperate to suck up on the right side of Mango Mussolini.

That is what really pisses me off.
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While some of the rubes are not "smart" some would be considered by society standards to be "smart". They just have decided to not bother using that brain they have and instead follow those who tell them what they want to hear, even if it is not true. In their head, they may even realize some of the banter is BS but they just don't care.

As a proper false teacher, DeSantis is likely intentionally leading folks away from the truth for his own benefit.

And, thus like you, That is what really pisses me off.
pipistrelle wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:09 pm Well, they don't even get how much contempt he has for them.
When your desires and passions are fulfilled, you are blinded to the contempt.

I have rarely seen in real-time such a textbook example of the works of the devil until now. It is quite ironic that the right-wing supposed lovers of the Bible are completely oblivious to exact examples of the works of evil right in front of them.
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There is a hell of a lot of "blaming the victim" going on.

When every single media source around you is saying that the Biden's are criminals and Trump is only getting indicted because of political revenge, it would take a VERY strong personality to say every one of them is wrong.

People who fall for this stuff are not necessarily stupid, and thinking they are is just putting yourself on a pedestal. They are victims. They are Dangerous Victims that you have to guard against, but they are still victims.

The problem with realizing that is that the word "victim" is only reserved for certain classes in Social Media society. Realizing that they are victims means that you cant have contempt for them, and that is too much of a cognitive dissonance to handle for the victims of the outrage culture.
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Suranis wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:10 pm There is a hell of a lot of "blaming the victim" going on.

When every single media source around you is saying that the Biden's are criminals and Trump is only getting indicted because of political revenge, it would take a VERY strong personality to say every one of them is wrong.

People who fall for this stuff are not necessarily stupid, and thinking they are is just putting yourself on a pedestal. They are victims. They are Dangerous Victims that you have to guard against, but they are still victims.

The problem with realizing that is that the word "victim" is only reserved for certain classes in Social Media society. Realizing that they are victims means that you cant have contempt for them, and that is too much of a cognitive dissonance to handle for the victims of the outrage culture.
Thanks for another way to look at things, food for thought.
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Suranis wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:10 pm There is a hell of a lot of "blaming the victim" going on.

When every single media source around you is saying that the Biden's are criminals and Trump is only getting indicted because of political revenge, it would take a VERY strong personality to say every one of them is wrong.
But it's NOT every single media source around them. It's every media source they CHOOSE to pay attention to.
People who fall for this stuff are not necessarily stupid, and thinking they are is just putting yourself on a pedestal. They are victims. They are Dangerous Victims that you have to guard against, but they are still victims.
I can't see them as victims because too many of them are, as northland10 said, smart enough to realize it's not true but simply don't care. And the reason they don't care about the truth is simple: The culture war being waged by the Republicans is giving them the society that they want - one by and for conservative white men. It's putting women back 'in their place' and under men's control again, marginalizing everyone who is of what they consider to be a lesser race and either eradicating anyone who's sexually 'different' or, at the very least, pushing them so far back into the closet no one will ever notice them - and if they are noticed, stripping them of many of the freedoms most people enjoy. It forces conformity to a single way of life that they're comfortable with and rolls back many of the social changes that have made this country a better and more freedom-oriented place. And they want all of this so desperately that they're willing to act like they believe in and help promote utter crap in order to have it.
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