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Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:28 am
by RTH10260
Emergency landing strands Sydney-bound passengers on Pacific island – never to see midnight on New Year’s Eve
Travellers on flight from Los Angeles treated to an idyllic, if brief and unexpected Pacific holiday, but with a twist
Royce Kurmelovs
Sat 31 Dec 2022 05.30 GMT
Airline passengers stranded on a remote Pacific island after an emergency landing on the way to Sydney have made the most of their unexpected, idyllic New Year’s Eve adventure – but there’s a catch.
The locals in Pago Pago, American Samoa, where the flight from Los Angeles was forced to land after fears over a potential mechanical problem in one of the plane’s engines, took passengers on a tour of the island and served beers on a deserted beach.
But thanks to a quirk of time zones, the rescue flight sent to take them on to Sydney was due to skip across the international dateline shortly after takeoff, flying from New Year’s Eve morning to New Year’s Day morning with no midnight to celebrate in between.
The time warp began when the aircraft they were originally travelling on from Los Angeles to Sydney was diverted to Pago Pago international airport. Crew aboard United Airlines flight 839 had noticed a potential oil leak in an engine of the Boeing 787-9.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -years-eve
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:43 am
by Volkonski
When I was in college one of the other tuba players in the college's concert band was from Pago Pago, American Samoa.
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:29 pm
by Greatgrey
Volkonski wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:43 am
When I was in college one of the other tuba players in the college's concert band was from Pago Pago, American Samoa.
Heck I had a Drivers License from there & was a member of the Pago Pago Yacht Club.
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:36 pm
by northland10
johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:15 pm
This should be shouted from the mountaintops. There are some businesses that should never be run by finance guys. Airlines are one of them, but there are many others. Boeing had an unassailable franchise in the aircraft business while it was run by rivet-pounders (the engineers or manufacturing people who actually designed or built airplanes). But when finance guys took over about 20 years ago, the company headed south in a big way. Quality and safety went to shit along with employee morale. And Airbus exploited the chaos; this year, it will ship around 2x as many airplanes as Boeing. Boeing is so larded up with debt that it is possible they may not be around in five years. We can name a ton of other industries as well: movie studios, oil companies, software companies, and on and on.
This is what happened when McDonnell Douglas bought Boeing with Boeing's money.
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:00 pm
by Tiredretiredlawyer
Greatgrey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:29 pm
Volkonski wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:43 am
When I was in college one of the other tuba players in the college's concert band was from Pago Pago, American Samoa.
Heck I had a Drivers License from there & was a member of the Pago Pago Yacht Club.
My Navy vet brother was there many times in the 70's as it was the fuel stop for his ship.
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:23 pm
by raison de arizona
Equipment outage affecting many flights in Florida.
Edit: apparently fixed
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:34 am
by AndyinPA
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/american-a ... osha-says/
January 5, 2023 / 10:12 AM / CBS News
FORT WORTH, Texas — Federal investigators allege that American Airlines, one of the nation's largest airlines, retaliated against flight attendants who reported illnesses caused by toxic fumes, CBS DFW's Alex Keller reports.
According to a Department of Labor spokesperson, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) launched a whistleblower investigation into the Fort Worth-based airline on Aug. 2, 2022, after flight attendants who reported their concerns were allegedly docked attendance points and discouraged from reporting work-related injuries or illnesses.
Following the investigation, OSHA proposed that American Airlines pay $6,837 in penalties. The company now has 15 business days to comply, request a conference with OSHA's area director Timothy Minor, or formally contest the filings in front of an independent commission.
Minor said in a statement that the airline's actions violated federal laws that protect workers who report health and safety concerns from retaliation and that their actions may have created "a chilling effect that may stop workers from reporting future issues, putting their health and well-being, and that of co-workers, at risk."
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:39 pm
by Frater I*I
A whole seven grand, that'll teach the multi-billion corporation a lesson....
The lesson being that they can still treat their workers like indentured servants...
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:02 pm
by Volkonski
OSHA fines have long been rendered weak by inflation.
Frater I*I wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:39 pm
A whole seven grand, that'll teach the multi-billion corporation a lesson....
The lesson being that they can still treat their workers like indentured servants...
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:15 pm
by RTH10260
Wells Fargo sacks India executive for urinating on plane passenger
Fri, January 6, 2023 at 3:19 PM GMT+1
US banking giant Wells Fargo on Friday sacked a top Indian executive now being pursued by police for allegedly urinating on a fellow passenger aboard an Air India flight.
Shankar Mishra, who local media reports said was the vice president of the bank's India operations, was terminated after a 72-year-old woman wrote to Air India's management to complain about the November incident.
"Wells Fargo holds employees to the highest standards of professional and personal behavior and we find these allegations deeply disturbing," the company said in a statement.
"This individual has been terminated from Wells Fargo," it added, without naming Mishra or specifying his position.
The bank said they were "cooperating with law enforcement and ask that any additional inquiries be directed to them".
Mishra, who was reportedly drunk during the journey from New York to New Delhi on November 26, has been on the run from authorities after the airline lodged a criminal complaint.
Police in Delhi said the accused was still at large and that they had been in contact with his family.
But in a statement released by his lawyers and reported by local media, Mishra said that he had already settled the matter by compensating the woman at the time of the incident.
"The WhatsApp messages between the accused and the lady clearly show that the accused had got the clothes and bags cleaned on November 28 and the same were delivered on November 30," the statement read, according to India Today.
Air India, recently bought by the sprawling conglomerate Tata Group after decades under state control, has faced a torrent of criticism for its handling of the woman's complaint.
India's aviation regulator has admonished Air India's management for not reporting the incident.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wells-fargo- ... 39439.html
(original: AFP)
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:47 pm
by RTH10260
She was catching a flight in Florida. Then TSA noticed her ‘emotional support’ snake
Madeleine Marr
Mon, January 9, 2023 at 5:44 PM GMT+1
Snake on a plane? Almost.
This isn’t the plot of a sequel to the action flick. Last month, a woman traveling through Tampa International Airport attempted to stow her boa constrictor in her carry-on luggage, according to the Transportation Security Administration.
A TSA tweet shows the X-ray of the four-foot creature that passed through the screening machine passengers must navigate before getting to the gate.
The reptile is lit up in orange, coiled up into a figure eight. Nearby are images of a laptop and two pairs of shoes.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/she-catching ... 56589.html
+(original Miami Herald)
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:25 am
by Maybenaut
FAA halts all U.S. flight departures; system outage causes mass delays
The Federal Aviation Administration directed U.S. carriers to temporarily halt all domestic flight departures until 9 a.m. Eastern Wednesday morning, as the agency works to fix a technical outage that caused travel disruptions across the country. The FAA said earlier that its Notice to Air Missions system, or NOTAMs — which issues essential notices to flight personnel — had “failed,” affecting operations “across the National Airspace System.” Technicians were working to restore it, it said, and the ground stop was intended "to allow the agency to validate the integrity of flight and safety information.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... lights-us/
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:29 am
by RTH10260
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:08 pm
by chancery
Off Topic
Maybenaut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:25 am
[The FAA said earlier that its Notice to Air Missions system, or NOTAMs — which issues essential notices to flight personnel
Interesting to learn that the FAA has updated the term "Notice to Airmen." Apparently it happened recently, in 2021.
Notices to Airmen (NOTAM) have a new name: Notices to Air Mission.
Effective Dec. 2, 2021, the new name is a “more applicable term” that is “inclusive of all aviators and missions.”
The name change has already been made to many FAA documents, according to agency officials.
The name change is one of many we will see as the FAA reviews its language and strives to make it more inclusive. The agency recently held on online Inclusive Language Summit that addresses some of these changes.
In his story on the summit, Questions From the Cockpit columnist William E. Dubois says of the change to Notices to Air Mission: “Personally, I think Notices to Air Mission is not only more accurate, but really cool-sounding. “I’m not going on a $100 hamburger run, honey, I have an air mission to complete.”
“Dare I say for those of us with the Y chromosome, that’s even more masculine? Heck, male pilots might actually start checking them.”
“It’s also handy that it would allow us to update the sensitivity of the language without dumping the acronym NOTAM that we are all used to.”
https://generalaviationnews.com/2021/12 ... r-mission/
I find the new term slightly imperfect because a mission can't notice something in the same way that a person does.
But the motivation is sound, and keeping the acronym the same makes lots of sense.
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:14 am
by RTH10260
Police footage from Odell Beckham Jr.'s plane incident shows officers telling Beckham he had to leave plane
Chris Cwik
Wed, January 11, 2023 at 11:44 PM GMT+1·2 min read
Odell Beckham Jr. remains a free agent after he wasn't signed during the regular season. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)
For a few weeks during the 2022 NFL season, Odell Beckham Jr. was the hottest free agent on the market. Then, Beckham was involved in a weird incident in which he was kicked off a plane.
Details were scarce at the time. The police claimed Beckham was ill. American Airlines said Beckham refused to put on his seat belt. Beckham's attorney blamed the flight attendant.
Police footage from the incident was released Wednesday. It provides some insight into what happened with Beckham, but still leaves a lot of questions unanswered.
The footage, from WPLG Local 10 News in Florida, picked up as an officer boarded the plane and asked to speak with Beckham. It then showed footage of a flight attendant saying Beckham refused to put his seat belt on. Officers repeatedly tell Beckham it was not their decision, but that he would have to get off the plane.
Beckham then watched as every other passenger deplaned. One passenger confronted Beckham, who angrily responded, "That s*** don't mean nothing to me." After passengers left the plane, Beckham was escorted out by police.
https://sports.yahoo.com/police-footage ... 59442.html
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:43 pm
by Frater I*I
To demonstrate just how much responsibility the FAA has given me I give you pics of what I pulled out of an engine of a Piper Lance II today, a result of the previous owner getting an A&P mech to pencil whip his annual inspections. What you see happened when the new owner was in midflight heading north from Perry FL...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1hoDTAuR2W2JouvE9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/parpjUyfBVdfAMvHA
https://photos.app.goo.gl/96xkpqEShy95jAjB9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bdXgMTArza8jdJag9
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:46 pm
by W. Kevin Vicklund
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:03 pm
by Frater I*I
Soooo...yeah, forgot to put them on "share", fixed the links in the original post....
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:09 am
by tek
Ouch.
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:21 pm
by johnpcapitalist
None of that would have happened if your customer had saved up his box tops and bought himself a
real aircraft engine, one that goes "whoooooosh" instead of "boing boing boing" with all them pistons and stuff. I'm not sure if the hull of a Lance is rated for supercruise, but if you had one of our engines, you could sure have fun trying.
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 9:39 am
by Foggy
The ones that go "boing boing boing" are the ones with the cool smoke trails coming out the back.
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:17 pm
by RTH10260
Airline passengers endured a 13-hour flight to nowhere after their plane to New Zealand was forced to turn back mid-flight
Stephanie Stacey
Sat, January 28, 2023 at 4:45 PM GMT+1
- An Emirates flight from Dubai to Auckland had to turn back halfway through its 8,824-mile journey.
Passengers spent around 13 hours in the air, only to end up right where they'd started.
The aircraft couldn't land at Auckland International Airport due to major flooding and heavy rain.
Passengers spent more than 13 hours flying onboard an Emirates flight only to land right back where they'd started.
Flight EK448 departed from Dubai International Airport at around 10:30 a.m. on Friday but was forced to turn back almost halfway through its 8,824-mile journey because of major flooding at its destination in Auckland, New Zealand. It landed again in Dubai shortly after midnight, data from Cirium and FlightAware showed.
Auckland International Airport shut its domestic and international terminals on Friday after heavy rain caused widespread chaos and triggered a local state of emergency. According to the airport's website, no international flights would be permitted to arrive until at least 7 a.m. local time on Sunday. Domestic arrivals and departures would be permitted from 12 p.m. local time on Saturday, it said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/airline-pass ... 01108.html
(original: Business Insider)
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:20 pm
by neonzx
Wouldn't it have made more sense to stop over in Australia?
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:26 pm
by RTH10260
neonzx wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:20 pm
Wouldn't it have made more sense to stop over in Australia?
Emirates passengers would have been stuck in transit lounge cause they cannot enter Australia without visa and pre-confirmation of flight, so no temporary hotel accomodation there. I understand that Auckland airport is still closed for international flights until Sunday. Some passengers may cancel their travel plans if delayed (eg business people).
Flying the Unfriendly Skies
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:09 pm
by RTH10260
Aahem - unfriendly parent ...
Parents late to their flight at an Israeli airport left their baby at check-in and raced away to try to get on board, Israeli authorities say
Natalie Musumeci,Isobel van Hagen
Thu, February 2, 2023 at 2:48 PM GMT+1
A baby boy was ditched by his parents at a check-in counter at a Tel Aviv airport, authorities said.
The parents arrived late for their flight and did not have a ticket for the infant, CNN reported.
The couple then raced off to try and board a Ryanair flight, the Israeli Airport Authority said.
A baby boy's parents ditched him at a check-in counter at a Tel Aviv, Israel, airport after they arrived late for their flight and did not have a ticket for the infant to travel, Israeli authorities said.
The unidentified parents, who held Belgian passports, left their baby behind in a carrier Tuesday inside Ben Gurion Airport when they raced off to try and board a Ryanair flight bound for the Belgian capital of Brussels, the Israel Airports Authority told CNN.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/parents-flig ... 00885.html
(original: Business Insider)
how to send a NOTAM about the NOTAM system outage when the NOTAM system is broken 
