INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:46 am
by realist
You certainly are correct there. She laid out what she wants and basically says tell me which is which. Problem is they essentially want all material protected. And it’s not and is not
Going to be.
Lawyer seems incapable of taking a hint.
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:05 am
by realist
Windom is doing a little better now, later in the hearing.
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:05 am
by p0rtia
What a read. HIghly recommended.
So Windom FINALLY says what the DOJ's position is-- ALL of them are sensitive (at bottom).
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And having elicited this, and established that Defense is bluntly saying it believes fuckhead has the right to say whatever he wants because he's in a political race, Chutkan makes her move:
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INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:13 am
by p0rtia
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:20 am
by p0rtia
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INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:28 am
by p0rtia
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INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
US District Judge Tanya Chutkan said that she plans to put serious limits over how sensitive evidence is handled in the Donald Trump 2020 election interference case, in a dramatic hearing Friday in Washington, DC, that could set the tone for the upcoming trial.
The former president has a right to free speech, but that right is “not absolute,” Chutkan said. “Mr. Trump, like every American, has a First Amendment right to free speech, but that right is not absolute. In a criminal case such as this one, the defendant’s free speech is subject to the rules.”
This is the first hearing before Chutkan. She has already shown a habit of responding quickly and tersely on the docket to debates between the parties over scheduling. An Obama appointee and former public defender who has overseen several cases regarding the events of January 6, 2021, Chutkan has been outspoken about the harm the US Capitol attack caused to American democracy.
Trump pleaded not guilty to four criminal charges related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election last week, and the judge warned Trump about any possible intimidation of witnesses.
Whether or not Trump’s public statements are covered by the protective order that’s issued, she said, if they result in the intimidation of a witness or the obstruction of justice, “I will be scrutinizing them very carefully.”
Trump’s lawyer John Lauro said: “President Trump will scrupulously abide by his conditions of release.”
Chutkan adopted restrictions proposed by prosecutors that would bar Trump from publicly disclosing information from interview transcripts and recordings from the investigation, including from witness interviews with investigators that took place outside of the grand jury.
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:07 pm
by RTH10260
Trump reading documents without his lawyers present? And then is expected to make a true and complete statement for his defense from that
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:26 pm
by noblepa
Trump’s lawyer John Lauro said: “President Trump will scrupulously abide by his conditions of release.”
Has Lauro actually met the former guy?
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:37 pm
by Dr. Ken
Full order is out
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:57 pm
by raison de arizona
Hide the ketchup bottles!
He's going to violate it. Guaranteed.
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:18 pm
by much ado
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:57 pm
Hide the ketchup bottles!
He's going to violate it. Guaranteed.
And when he does, what will the consequences be?
What do our lawyerly members think?
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:28 pm
by neonzx
much ado wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:18 pm
And when he does, what will the consequences be?
What do our lawyerly members think?
NOT. A. DAMN. THING. (but IANAL)
He slides/slithers-away on most everything ... because of who he is.
He should be remanded to pre-trial custody but it is not going to happen. Mark my words.
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads)🌻 @AWeissmann_ wrote:
Not messing around: Judge Chutkan after warning against "inflammatory" public statements: “I will take whatever measures are necessary to safeguard the integrity of these proceedings."
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:59 pm
by Gregg
He wants to be remanded.
Because he knows he will at most spend a night or a weekend in actual jail and will make millions, tens of millions, in the fundraising he will do afterwards.
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:40 pm
by somerset
Dr. Ken wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:37 pm
Full order is out
There's a certain irony in tfg being forced to comply with what is basically a NDA
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:03 pm
by Gregg
The over/under on the Judge demanding a response to a Show Cause Order is Wednesday at noon.
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:27 pm
by Tiredretiredlawyer
somerset: There's a certain irony in tfg being forced to comply with what is basically a NDA
Yes. Yes, there is.
INDICATED #3! USA v. Donald Trump, Defendant - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 6:43 pm
by Dr. Ken
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