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Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:38 pm
by much ado
Kendra wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:33 pm
Just trying to piece together the snippets of statements Trump is making to various right wing outlets, it looks like they are going to say that Trump had a “standing order” that all documents he took to the residence as president were automatically declassified, and that …

… standing order then applied to all documents he removed to Mar-a-Lago, essentially counting that as the equivalent to the WH residence.
That's actually kind of funny.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:41 pm
by Chilidog
Kendra wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:24 pm
Trump’s attorney says she has advised him that if he just says he won’t run for president, all these investigations and charges will go away and be dropped.
ELL. OH. ELL.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:41 pm
by Kendra

Statement from Trump Office: As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time… He had a standing order that documents removed from the Oval Office taken to the residence were deemed to be declassified..

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:47 pm
by pipistrelle
Windsor Mann

@WindsorMann
Trump takes more pains to hide his tax returns than classified info about nuclear weapons.
8:51 AM · Aug 12, 2022·Twitter Web App

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:21 pm
by Kendra

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:25 pm
by Kendra

Trump rolling out a defense that he often liked to bring home with him at the end of the day reams of intelligence reports and classified documents so he could read and study them at night is somewhat difficult to believe. Maybe I’m being too cynical, though.
:rimshot:

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:42 pm
by RVInit
This guy won't get invited back to Fox any time in the future, but I really copied it for the response tweet below the Fox clip. :rotflmao:


Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:53 pm
by RTH10260
These tweets would confirm my speculations i made further upthread, how papers ended up in the residence :cantlook: :doh:

But I still have difficulty to understand how WH staff would routinely "declassify" without adhering to the correct process.

Considering that impotus would use his personal phone without any oversight it is not a far stretch to assume that very sensitive information may have reached thankful recipients around the globe.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:11 pm
by much ado
RTH10260 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:53 pm These tweets would confirm my speculations i made further upthread, how papers ended up in the residence :cantlook: :doh:

But I still have difficulty to understand how WH staff would routinely "declassify" without adhering to the correct process.

Considering that impotus would use his personal phone without any oversight it is not a far stretch to assume that very sensitive information may have reached thankful recipients around the globe.
White House staff do not have the authority to declassify; only the President himself can declassify.

(I wonder, in passing, whether Congress might change this.)

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:16 pm
by Kendra

Just asked a former senior administration official who would be in a position to know about such a thing and they had absolutely no idea what this report is talking about
I think right now there's lots of spaghetti getting tossed on the wall to see what sticks.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:19 pm
by Dr. Ken

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:30 pm
by keith
RVInit wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:20 pm
Off Topic
I would love to see something like a Change.org demanding that all cable companies that offer packages remove Fox from their lineup until Fox removes the "News" from their logo. That is what I truly object to. Their programming director admits they are not "primarily a news" station. They are down to somewhere in the vicinity of 1-3 hours per day of actual "news" programming - which is programming that they actually CLAIM really is news.
1) False advertising is legal apparently.

2) Ex-PMs unite in Australia in bid to curb power of Murdoch empire

3) Anti-Murdoch petition in Australia gets record public support

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:31 pm
by RVInit
These Garland/Trump photos are hilarious.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:32 pm
by raison de arizona
Just checked, he’s got both of them, their kids, ex-wives, whole thing up on Telegram still.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:32 pm
by pipistrelle


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I don’t think it’s a mole. I think a secret service agent realized Trump’s team wasn’t being truthful and they were refusing to comply with a lawful subpoena and reported it.

I also still think Meadows is talking.
8:50 PM · Aug 12, 2022

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:52 pm
by keith
Kendra wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:24 pm
Trump’s attorney says she has advised him that if he just says he won’t run for president, all these investigations and charges will go away and be dropped.
Dream on.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:45 am
by Kendra

The documents are declassified once they pass the rim threshold in the toilet

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:47 am
by Kendra

Ruhle: I called a former member of his administration when this news came out and they laughed me off the phone.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:21 am
by Kriselda Gray
Kendra wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:25 pm
Trump rolling out a defense that he often liked to bring home with him at the end of the day reams of intelligence reports and classified documents so he could read and study them at night is somewhat difficult to believe. Maybe I’m being too cynical, though.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: OMG! He thinks we'll buy the idea he READS stuff? What, did someone rewrite the classified documents into bullet lists with pictures like they had to do with his Daily Briefing? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:33 am
by Greatgrey
Suranis wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:38 pm That said the Jim Muise of the Freedumb NEVERLUTIONARY Guard facebook group has a good theory...
Saudi Arabia has been working on a nuke program.
Saudi Arabia wants to blow up Israel and Iran.
Saudi Arabia “loaned” Kushner $2 billion
Saudi Arabia owns big chunks of Trumpty Tower and other properties
Saudi Arabia
Remember when this goes forward the chuckle buckets are doing this for Saudi Arabia.

Ya know, it doesn’t have to be “how to make a bomb” book. Hell, I sent Foggy one of those a few years ago.

It could be information about Israel’s nuke capabilities. You can bet Saudi Arabia would be interested in that.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:26 am
by bob
In retrospect, maybe bragging about the FBI raiding your house searching your hotel wasn't the best publicity move.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:52 am
by poplove
Fred Wellman
@FPWellman
I think everyone is sleeping on the fact that before they got the warrants the DOJ was given surveillance footage of the rooms in which the documents were stored.
They got video of who looked at them THEN went in.
Chew on what that implies for a second. It tastes like treason.

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:08 am
by Uninformed
The excuse that documents ended up being in the residence as “homework” is a sloppy reworking of the truth that they were taken there because tfg couldn’t be bothered to leave the residence and actually do the everyday work required of a President (and his staff were useless at their jobs).

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:32 am
by Uninformed
A Stonekettle “essay” about the probable impacts of tfg having unsecured documents:

https://www.stonekettle.com/2022/08/loo ... ships.html

Re: Trump's Classified Docs: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Merrick Garland - GOP Madness, Fallou

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:00 am
by Foggy
Trump’s attorney says she has advised him that if he just says he won’t run for president, all these investigations and charges will go away and be dropped.
That's interesting - there really aren't any charges yet, are there? Are you expecting charges? How can charges be dropped if they are never filed? :think: