Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 4:12 pm
by Suranis
Ok if you are using business funds that you put into your personal account in order to fig leave that it was a personal transaction, how the heck is that not fraud in any case. I'm sure he was doing that with the Trump foundation and that was ruled as fraud, so why not this?
It's at the very least money laundering.
Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 4:19 pm
by much ado
sterngard friegen wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 3:58 pm
As for the cross of Stormy Daniels, either Trump's lawyer does not know about the rule never to ask a witness a question to which you don't know the answer (unlikely), or her idiot client insisted she get tough (likely) and she simply got tangled up in trying to make the witness look bad. Stormy Daniels was pretty much equal to the challenge and left the lawyer looking like a fool. Susan Necheles should be embarrassed.
Yeah, even though the prosecution has made the substantial errors that Stern has pointed out, I think we can rely on the likelihood that Trump's lawyers will f**k things up so badly it will not make a difference.
Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 4:34 pm
by Jim
Suranis wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 4:12 pm
Ok if you are using business funds that you put into your personal account in order to fig leave that it was a personal transaction, how the heck is that not fraud in any case. I'm sure he was doing that with the Trump foundation and that was ruled as fraud, so why not this?
It's at the very least money laundering.
Wouldn't it be funny if the IRS used this to claim the money given to Stormy was personal money (not a business expense since it went through his personal account) and he owed back taxes and penalty on it as income?
Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
sterngard friegen wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 3:58 pm
As for the cross of Stormy Daniels, either Trump's lawyer does not know about the rule never to ask a witness a question to which you don't know the answer (unlikely), or her idiot client insisted she get tough (likely) and she simply got tangled up in trying to make the witness look bad. Stormy Daniels was pretty much equal to the challenge and left the lawyer looking like a fool. Susan Necheles should be embarrassed.
Yeah, even though the prosecution has made the substantial errors that Stern has pointed out, I think we can rely on the likelihood that Trump's lawyers will f**k things up so badly it will not make a difference.
We don't have to rely on Trump's attorneys. How about Trump himself? He gave a declaration admitting to the reimbursements in one of the cases where Michael Avenatti represented Stormy Daniels. (I haven't been able to locate it.) And then Trump put out these tweets the morning after Rudy Giuliani stated in an interview that Trump had reimbursed Cohen.
Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA. These agreements are.....
...very common among celebrities and people of wealth. In this case it is in full force and effect and will be used in Arbitration for damages against Ms. Clifford (Daniels). The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair,......
...despite already having signed a detailed letter admitting that there was no affair. Prior to its violation by Ms. Clifford and her attorney, this was a private agreement. Money from the campaign, or campaign contributions, played no roll in this transaction.
("Roll." Trump is illiterate.)
I only see one way out for Trump but his lawyers haven't been asking the right questions to set it up. Maybe they will with Cohen, but so far they are as bad as Alina Habba.
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Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 5:08 pm
by Maybenaut
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Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 5:10 pm
by Reality Check
Justice Merchan really brought it on the rulings on the requests for mistrial. He was well prepared for what the defense was arguing and had even gone back and reviewed his prior rulings. Very impressed.
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Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 5:45 pm
by sterngard friegen
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Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 6:00 pm
by bob
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This is a case about stupid greed. If this had been conducted by professional fixers, there would have been no paper trail (at least in the business's ledgers).
Taking notes on a criminal conspiracy, etc.
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This is a case about stupid greed. If this had been conducted by professional fixers, there would have been no paper trail (at least in the business's ledgers).
Taking notes on a criminal conspiracy, etc.
From The Wire...
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This is a case about stupid greed. If this had been conducted by professional fixers, there would have been no paper trail (at least in the business's ledgers).
Taking notes on a criminal conspiracy, etc.
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p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 11:58 am
Cross concludes.
Necheles's closing argument decoded: So you're a slut and thus couldn't possibly have been shocked to see a guy in boxers on the bed, so you made it up, right?
So transparent. Good luck with that, fuckhead.
I'd be forever traumatized seeing dookiepants in boxers and tee
I swear my eyes first passed over this as 'boxers and tie', and I thought "Ew, but at least on brand."
Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads)
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Notes from 100 Centre St: KEY ADMISSION --on redirect the state elicits that Trump admitted in a CA legal case that he, Trump, reimbursed Cohen the $130,000 hush money.
If anyone knows where that document can be found, I'd be grateful for a link.
Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
p0rtia wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2024 11:58 am
Cross concludes.
Necheles's closing argument decoded: So you're a slut and thus couldn't possibly have been shocked to see a guy in boxers on the bed, so you made it up, right?
So transparent. Good luck with that, fuckhead.
I'd be forever traumatized seeing dookiepants in boxers and tee
I swear my eyes first passed over this as 'boxers and tie', and I thought "Ew, but at least on brand."
His ties are long enough to... uh... cover.
Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads)
@AWeissmann_
Notes from 100 Centre St: KEY ADMISSION --on redirect the state elicits that Trump admitted in a CA legal case that he, Trump, reimbursed Cohen the $130,000 hush money.
If anyone knows where that document can be found, I'd be grateful for a link.
I don't know, but maybe a clue here?
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Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 7:24 pm
by chancery
Thanks, that's helpful. I'd like to read the brief, and that snippet probably supplies enough information to identify the case and download the pdf, but I think I'll wait and see if it surfaces.
It's a helpful piece of evidence, but I'm not sure how admissions and potential collateral estoppel from civil cases work in criminal prosecutions. There's no such thing, for instance, as a summary judgment of conviction.
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Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 7:27 pm
by MN-Skeptic
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Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 7:28 pm
by MN-Skeptic
By the way, the prosecutors have now said that they will not be calling Karen McDougal.
Bragg Manhattan DA charges tfg? Hush money. tfg “INDICATED!”
Posted: Thu May 09, 2024 7:38 pm
by chancery
Interesting. Has there already been testimony about the McDougal affair?
Edit: duh, Mr. Pecker. And maybe that lawyer.
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