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scirreeve wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:40 pm Karl is in jail in Utah. Don't know the story.
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scirreeve wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:40 pm Karl is in jail in Utah. Don't know the story.
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johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:11 pm

scirreeve wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:40 pm Karl is in jail in Utah. Don't know the story.
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Looks like he's been arrested as a "fugitive from justice" and may be being held without bond, if I'm interpreting the data from the Iron County jail correctly.

Perhaps Wisconsin actually wants to pay to get him back to teach him a lesson. Is he wanted anywhere else like Nevada that might get him instead of his home state?

It would be amusing to figure out what he did to catch the attention of the Utah authorities. Did they have an automated plate reader on the OpVec? Not sure an extremely rural county (population ~40,000) would be able to afford such things. Or did he get busted for drunk driving yet again and they figured that holding for another jurisdiction would be cheaper than trying another DUI case?

https://ironsheriff.net/jail/inmate-bookings

scirreeve wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:24 pm He has a NV warrant for FTA for charges related to his joy ride on his motorcycle on Mt. Charleston. I didn't realize the warrant was valid in Utah - maybe Karl didn't either.

ETA - I just checked his NV case. Shows warrant still active and no entry about him being caught in Utah (yet).

johnpcapitalist wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:38 pm

scirreeve wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:24 pm He has a NV warrant for FTA for charges related to his joy ride on his motorcycle on Mt. Charleston. I didn't realize the warrant was valid in Utah - maybe Karl didn't either.

ETA - I just checked his NV case. Shows warrant still active and no entry about him being caught in Utah (yet).

Makes sense that Nevada would pay to get a crack at him, given that they're adjacent states. I'm sure that if he was driving the OpVec, it was impounded along with the motorcycle. Storage charges for that ought to be impressive after Karl spends a few weeks in jail in both UT and NV. A quick search shows that in Utah, an impounded vehicle can be sold after 30 days in the clink.

Remember when the OpVec was impounded during Karl's stupid Florida adventure and it was 45 days before a sale there? He barely managed to get it back in time because they wouldn't release it until it was properly registered. But now that he's being held without bail, it is going to be an even more fun race against the clock.

The OpVec is such a monstrosity that it might go for a fraction of its market value. It would be a certain amount of fun if a Fogbowser were to snatch it at auction for $1,500 or so and broadcast that fact to all of Karl's AMFF supporters. Oh, wait...

Index Utah Code
Title 77 Utah Code of Criminal Procedure
Chapter 30 Extradition
Section 13 Fugitives from justice -- Warrant of arrest.

77-30-13. Fugitives from justice -- Warrant of arrest.
Whenever any person within this state shall be charged on the oath of any credible person before any judge or magistrate of this state with the commission of any crime in any other state, and, except in cases arising under Section 77-30-6* that he has fled from justice, or with having been convicted of a crime in that state and having escaped from confinement, or having broken the terms of his bail, probation or parole, or whenever complaint shall have been made before any judge or magistrate in this state setting forth on the affidavit of any credible person in another state that a crime has been committed in such other state and that the accused has been charged in such state with the commission of the crime, and except in cases arising under Section 77-30-6, has fled from justice, or with having been convicted of a crime in that state and having escaped from confinement, or having broken the terms of his bail, probation or parole, and is believed to be in this state, the judge or magistrate shall issue a warrant directed to any peace officer commanding him to apprehend the person named therein, wherever he may be found in this state, and to bring him before the same or any judge, magistrate or court who or which may be available in or convenient of access to the place where the arrest may be made, to answer the charge or complaint and affidavit, and a certified copy of the sworn charge or complaint and affidavit upon which the warrant is issued shall be attached to the warrant.

Enacted by Chapter 15, 1980 General Session

* Index Utah Code
Title 77 Utah Code of Criminal Procedure
Chapter 30 Extradition
Section 6 Extradition for crime committed in another state by person while in this state.

77-30-6. Extradition for crime committed in another state by person while in this state.
The governor of this state may also surrender, on demand of the executive authority of any other state, any person in this state charged in such other state, in the manner provided in section 77-30-3**, with committing an act in this state, or in a third state, intentionally resulting in a crime in the state whose executive authority is making the demand, and the provisions of this act not otherwise inconsistent shall apply to such cases even though the accused was not in that state at the time of the commission of the crime, and has not fled therefrom.

Enacted by Chapter 15, 1980 General Session

** Utah Title 77 — Utah Code Of Criminal Procedure :: 77-30-3 — Form Of Demand -- What Documents Presented Must Show.

77-30-3. Form of demand -- What documents presented must show.

No demand for the extradition of a person charged with a crime in another state shall be recognized by the governor unless in writing alleging, except in cases arising under Section 77-30-6, that the accused was present in the demanding state at the time of the commission of the alleged crime, and that thereafter he fled from the state, and accompanied by a copy of an indictment found or by information supported by affidavit in the state having jurisdiction of the crime, or by a copy of an affidavit made before a magistrate there, together with a copy of any warrant which was issued thereupon or by a copy of a judgment of conviction or of a sentence composed in execution, together with a statement by the executive authority of the demanding state that the person claimed has escaped from confinement or has broken the terms of his bail, probation or parole. The indictment, information or affidavit made before the magistrate must substantially charge the person demanded with having committed a crime under the law of that state and the copy of the indictment, information, affidavit, judgment of conviction or sentence must be authenticated by the executive authority making the demand.

Enacted by Chapter 15, 1980 General Session

Uninformed wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:51 pm Does Ryan the legal idiot Buddy still live in Iron County?

scirreeve wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:58 pm

Uninformed wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:51 pm Does Ryan the legal idiot Buddy still live in Iron County?

No - he lives in Mesquite NV now.

poplove wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:23 pm I found the impounded opvec!

scirreeve wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:39 pm

poplove wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:23 pm I found the impounded opvec!

You rock Poppy!