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Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:36 am
by northland10
RTH10260 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:46 pm Also too, all those military marked explicitely request a return, no hoarding. Also one expects one document per folder, not a hodepodge when returning.
Military doc return rule:

Thou shalt not return docs as an inartfully collatedan defectively stapled pile of papers.

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:36 am
by bill_g
RVInit wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:07 am
bill_g wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:01 am I like seeing shoulders drop and relief cross the faces of people that process my prints (at least once a year). With today's biometric systems, my right index alone will bring up pages of information.
I am very hard to fingerprint. I have had several jobs where it was required and they usually give up and say "well, this will just have to do, I guess" after trying everything, including cleaning my fingers over and over again. It apparently has nothing to do with my hands producing grease or whatever, I have exceedingly shallow ridges, so they really just don't come out very well, no matter how clean my fingers are. Oh well, so much disappointment. :mrgreen:
It happens. If they can get six good ones on a ten card along with notes why the others are missing, they'll be accepted especially if it is for common area access. But, if they really need those ten, your fingers can be soaked in warm water for several minutes to "fluff" up a bit.

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:38 am
by northland10
bob wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:55 pm I hesitate to get in the heads of idiots, but:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

You speak Taitz.

Yeah, I know. You can stop anytime.

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:40 am
by Foggy
Yes, see how much fun it is to speculate? Which is nice, because we may not learn anything new today.

And I speculate that if'n I knew I had touched some of those documents, I would definitely be interested in hiring an attorney to help me turn myself in before the feds came to get me. 'Course, I'd also too contact Queen Didulo for help, wouldn't you? :crazy:

I would not know for sure if they could successfully lift my prints. :think:

But better to be on the safe side. :batting:

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:40 am
by pipistrelle
bill_g wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:28 am
pipistrelle wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:07 am IIRC, his diet Coke has to be passed to him by gloved hands.
He's a self described germaphobe, but he'll deny it as fake news if it's brought up in the news.
https://www.mashed.com/338244/the-ritua ... diet-coke/

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:47 am
by RVInit
As to all those empty folders, how many of you believe he took the contents out so he could carry them around, possibly sharing them with others, without it being conspicuous by having them in those brightly colored folders? I can't think of any reason to remove them from the folders. Aside from the fact that he shouldn't have had them at all.

It's pretty clear he was up to something criminal and probably harmful to the United States.

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:48 am
by Slim Cognito
:yeahthat:

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:57 am
by Reality Check
Foggy wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:23 am It's not difficult to obtain fingerprints surreptitiously. :think:
I would check the ketchup bottles from the White House. 8-)

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:59 am
by bill_g
pipistrelle wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:40 am
bill_g wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:28 am
pipistrelle wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:07 am IIRC, his diet Coke has to be passed to him by gloved hands.
He's a self described germaphobe, but he'll deny it as fake news if it's brought up in the news.
https://www.mashed.com/338244/the-ritua ... diet-coke/
Oh yeah. Good times there.

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:17 am
by Greatgrey
Somebody coughed up some cash.

Transcript of the Special Master hearing, 70 pages.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... transcript

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:35 am
by Dr. Ken


So they're arguing that he handled them and knew about them now?

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:48 am
by Slim Cognito
A lot of this goes over my head but, yeah, it sounds to me like he's arguing, Sure he took them but he's prez forevah so it's all good, and the FBI are a bunch of stupidheads.

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:49 am
by Tiredretiredlawyer
RVInit:

I am very hard to fingerprint...I have exceedingly shallow ridges, so they really just don't come out very well, no matter how clean my fingers are.
Shhhhh! The Fogbow haz a real life SPY!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad she's spying for us! :biggrin:

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:54 am
by Tiredretiredlawyer
Reality Check wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:57 am
Foggy wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:23 am It's not difficult to obtain fingerprints surreptitiously. :think:
I would check the ketchup bottles from the White House. 8-)
:rimshot:

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:56 am
by pipistrelle
RVInit wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:47 am As to all those empty folders, how many of you believe he took the contents out so he could carry them around, possibly sharing them with others, without it being conspicuous by having them in those brightly colored folders? I can't think of any reason to remove them from the folders. Aside from the fact that he shouldn't have had them at all.

It's pretty clear he was up to something criminal and probably harmful to the United States.
Yep, but AMERICA FIRST!

And now Kushner's and Mnuchin's deals seem even more interesting...

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:58 am
by Tiredretiredlawyer
Pipi and I have never been fingerprinted! We have never been involved in an infamous golf ball caper. We have never been in the military. We have never lived in a state requiring fingerprints for a driver's license. The logical conclusion is we are identical twins!!!!!!!!! :biggrin:

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:06 am
by MN-Skeptic
RVInit wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:07 am I am very hard to fingerprint. I have had several jobs where it was required and they usually give up and say "well, this will just have to do, I guess" after trying everything, including cleaning my fingers over and over again. It apparently has nothing to do with my hands producing grease or whatever, I have exceedingly shallow ridges, so they really just don't come out very well, no matter how clean my fingers are. Oh well, so much disappointment. :mrgreen:
So you would make a great thief because you wouldn’t leave fingerprints behind!

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:28 am
by Kendra
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:58 am Pipi and I have never been fingerprinted! We have never been involved in an infamous golf ball caper. We have never been in the military. We have never lived in a state requiring fingerprints for a driver's license. The logical conclusion is we are identical twins!!!!!!!!! :biggrin:
Me too, does that make it triplets?

Meanwhile:


They can’t really be this dumb, can they? Newsmax host doesn’t understand why it’s a big deal that Trump had a bunch of classified cover sheets, since there were no documents attached to them: “What’s the problem?”

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:32 am
by bill_g
Oy vey. :cantlook:

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:35 am
by Tiredretiredlawyer
Kendra: Sister!!!!

🎶We three,
we're not alone,
Living on the great FB.
We're Pipi, and Kendra, and me.🎶

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:42 am
by Slim Cognito
Off Topic
I don't know if this applies to you, RV, but there is a genetic condition in which people are born without fingerprints. It's rare, but it's a thing.

In my 30ish years of medical transcription, I saw it once. I'd never heard of it before that.

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:05 pm
by bob
sugar magnolia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:14 am To my knowledge, all gov't employees and anyone applying for a security clearance has to be fingerprinted.
The president isn't an employee and doesn't have a security clearance.

But the assumption he has been fingerprinted by some agency at some point in his life is reasonable.

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:06 pm
by Kendra
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:35 am Kendra: Sister!!!!

🎶We three,
we're not alone,
Living on the great FB.
We're Pipi, and Kendra, and me.🎶
:bighug:

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:11 pm
by Chilidog
bob wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:05 pm
sugar magnolia wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:14 am To my knowledge, all gov't employees and anyone applying for a security clearance has to be fingerprinted.
The president isn't an employee and doesn't have a security clearance.

But the assumption he has been fingerprinted by some agency at some point in his life is reasonable.
Casino licence application?

Re: Spy Hard - Trump's Classified Doc Theft: FBI Subpoenas, Searches & Seizures - Mar-A-Lago, DOJ, Garland, GOP Madness

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:14 pm
by June bug
If you’ve ever signed a notarized document, there’s your thumbprint in the notary’s logbook. Don’t know how long those are kept, but I’d say the feds should check around Trump lawyers’ offices, etc.