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Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 pm
by Greatgrey
sugar magnolia wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:41 am
Greatgrey wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:37 pm
Kendra wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:22 pm

Isn’t 20 kinda young to be an Oathkeeper?

As I remember, when Oathkeepers were formed during the TeaBagger days, the name came from the oath they took as military member & their assertion that the oath didn’t expire when they were discharged.
You can join any branch of the military at 17.
He didn’t though.

If he did, he would still be in, or if somehow he managed a 2 year term he would be in the Reserves for an additional 6 years.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pm
by raison de arizona
And now he has PROOF!

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:40 pm
by RTH10260
:confuzzled: how would a DEA staffer who stormed the Capitol in his free time be able to identify FBI agents :?:

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:14 am
by fierceredpanda
Further confirmation of my hypothesis (first conceived during my time interning at the DOJ) that DEA agents are useless at literally everything. The guy can't even do a television segment on a show where the host and guests spew bullshit correctly.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:00 am
by neeneko
Greatgrey wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 pm He didn’t though.

If he did, he would still be in, or if somehow he managed a 2 year term he would be in the Reserves for an additional 6 years.
Somehow I doubt the oath keepers require honorable discharge.

But since we have already seen examples of people who start training, wash out, and then claim they were whatever elite thing the training was for, so I would not be surprised if he showed up for basic training, failed the first week, and the oathkeepers still took him.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:03 am
by bill_g
RTH10260 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:40 pm :confuzzled: how would a DEA staffer who stormed the Capitol in his free time be able to identify FBI agents :?:
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LEPD - Law Enforcement Proximity Detector

It's one of the many augmentations that federal agents in all departments are eligible for, though not all receive them.
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Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:23 am
by Maybenaut
neeneko wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:00 am
Greatgrey wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:23 pm He didn’t though.

If he did, he would still be in, or if somehow he managed a 2 year term he would be in the Reserves for an additional 6 years.
Somehow I doubt the oath keepers require honorable discharge.

But since we have already seen examples of people who start training, wash out, and then claim they were whatever elite thing the training was for, so I would not be surprised if he showed up for basic training, failed the first week, and the oathkeepers still took him.
Some of the articles I read about Berry said he was “associated with” the oath keepers. He may have never entered the military.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:58 am
by Slim Cognito
raison de arizona wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pm And now he has PROOF!
Funny, yes, but the video was cut off pretty abruptly. I'd feel better about my reaction if I'd seen what happened immediately after the guy said he didn't see any evidence of the FBI interfering, if for nothing else than seeing Carlson's probably trademarked stupid face.

I'm off to the doc to see about this really bad "cold" but I'll see if I can find a longer clip while I'm waiting.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:14 am
by raison de arizona
Slim Cognito wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:58 am Funny, yes, but the video was cut off pretty abruptly. I'd feel better about my reaction if I'd seen what happened immediately after the guy said he didn't see any evidence of the FBI interfering, if for nothing else than seeing Carlson's probably trademarked stupid face.

I'm off to the doc to see about this really bad "cold" but I'll see if I can find a longer clip while I'm waiting.
Full clip:

Good luck on the cold!

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:32 am
by neonzx
raison de arizona wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:14 am
Slim Cognito wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:58 am Funny, yes, but the video was cut off pretty abruptly. I'd feel better about my reaction if I'd seen what happened immediately after the guy said he didn't see any evidence of the FBI interfering, if for nothing else than seeing Carlson's probably trademarked stupid face.

I'm off to the doc to see about this really bad "cold" but I'll see if I can find a longer clip while I'm waiting.
Full clip:
https://twitter.com/columbiabugle/statu ... 66432?s=21
Good luck on the cold!
Hey oh... Cuba gets dragged into this discussion ...? :?

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:16 am
by Kendra

Former US Army Sgt. Landon Copeland is charged with assaulting police at Capitol on Jan 6

From his jailhouse, we spoke about the case by phone.... he has theories ===>

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:24 pm
by raison de arizona
"Pre-emptive assault?" Dumb take, great clip :thumbsup:

In other news, being locked up after insurrecting sucks. Apparently. Should've thought ahead. (This is a Proud Boys leader BTW.)
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Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:42 pm
by filly
Kendra wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:16 am
Former US Army Sgt. Landon Copeland is charged with assaulting police at Capitol on Jan 6

From his jailhouse, we spoke about the case by phone.... he has theories ===>
Confused, delusional and stoopid.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:46 pm
by filly
Who knew soy lacks protein? Learn something "new" every day from these geniuses.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:48 pm
by roadscholar
When other folks (especially in the sociological meaning of "other") are locked up, these people are the first to say "Jail is supposed to be unpleasant!"

Heh. Suffer, bitches. :twisted:

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:52 pm
by filly
roadscholar wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:48 pm When other folks (especially in the sociological meaning of "other") are locked up, these people are the first to say "Jail is supposed to be unpleasant!"
:winner:

You can see him laying the ground for a lawsuit: Lower back pain, shoulder pain, anxiety (which will surely morph into PTSD). No protein, only soy!

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:55 pm
by Azastan
filly wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:46 pm Who knew soy lacks protein? Learn something "new" every day from these geniuses.
And he apparently doesn't know that gelatin is high in protein, either.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:56 pm
by raison de arizona
Azastan wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:55 pm
filly wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:46 pm Who knew soy lacks protein? Learn something "new" every day from these geniuses.
And he apparently doesn't know that gelatin is high in protein, either.
He's a proud boy, not a smart boy!

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:59 pm
by Kendra

Hearing now underway for Matthew Loganbill, who admitted to the FBI he told a Capitol officer "we came peacefully this time,” but that “it would be different if we have to come again.”

He also commented sarcastically on Facebook: "I'm just a dumb ‘terrorist' I guess.”

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:44 pm
by Kendra
ALERT: Feds charge Texas man with assaulting police with *metal whip* and chemical spray outside Capitol on Jan 6

Court filings say federal agents used messages & location info from the BUMBLE dating app to make case against Andrew Taake of Houston-area

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:05 pm
by Kendra
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl3dkCjqP9E
Set a reminder to watch the first hearing by the House select committee investigating the U.S. Capitol riot on Tuesday. CBSN’s coverage will begin at 9 a.m. ET. The panel will hear testimony from several Capitol and Metropolitan police officers who responded to the attack on January 6.
Broke the link, there's really nothing there yet.
Edit: Wrong thread, my bad :bag:

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:33 pm
by SlimSloSlider
raison de arizona wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:14 am
Slim Cognito wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:58 am Funny, yes, but the video was cut off pretty abruptly. I'd feel better about my reaction if I'd seen what happened immediately after the guy said he didn't see any evidence of the FBI interfering, if for nothing else than seeing Carlson's probably trademarked stupid face.

Full clip:

Tucker Carlson: “He did not commit any crimes. He did not brandish his DEA-issued revolver.”

Er, the revolver, that’s a crime, in D.C.
On Federal property, that’s a serious crime.
As part of an attempt to prevent …

Oh, forget it, Tucker.
You’re too busy being right.
And offended.

May all your lies turn to bile and choke you.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:20 am
by Greatgrey
Was wondering if anyone still has videos of TeaBagger events where the Oafkeepers were present or providing security?

I remember some with Chalice, wanting to try and correlate with the Capitol bunch.

Thx

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:26 am
by Tiredretiredlawyer
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-pastor-f ... 33740.html
Florida pastor facing U.S. Capitol riot charges has court hearing July 22, 2021, 3:59 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A 72-year-old Florida pastor facing federal criminal charges arising from the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol by supporters of former President Donald Trump took part in a preliminary hearing on Thursday before a judge.

James Cusick Jr., pastor of the Global Outreach Ministries of Melbourne, Florida, faces four misdemeanor charges related to the riot, including violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds. His son Casey Cusick, 35, also a pastor at his father's church, faces similar charges but did not participate in Thursday's hearing.

One of the their parishioners, David Lesperance, 69, also faces similar charges. Lesperance did not take part in the hearing.

According to an FBI affidavit, Lesperance told investigators that his pastor had attended Trump's speech before the riot and then went to the Capitol building.

At Thursday's hearing, a prosecutor told U.S. District Judge Randolph Moss that consolidating the cases of Cusick, his son and Lesperance was under consideration. A further hearing for James Cusick was set for Sept. 28.

Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:54 am
by keith
SlimSloSlider wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:33 pm
Tucker Carlson: “He did not commit any crimes. He did not brandish his DEA-issued revolver.”

Er, the revolver, that’s a crime, in D.C.
On Federal property, that’s a serious crime.
As part of an attempt to prevent …
In fairness, he was an accredited DEA officer. He was actually supposed to be carrying his DEA issued weapon.

At least I believe that is so, I do not speak from direct experience so I can be corrected.