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Kendra wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:47 pm https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... nc-vpx.cnn

Documents obtained by CNN show that Trump and his legal team weren't willing to agree on terms set by a judge in regards to the former president being able to speak during closing arguments in his New York civil fraud trial and attempted to use the death of Melania Trump's mom to postpone the closing arguments. CNN's Katelyn Polantz reports.

Justice Engoron I am sad to advise the Court that Mrs. Trump's mother passed away this evening. Because of the challenges presented by this deeply personal family matter, President Trump has asked that I request the Court postpone the date for closing argument until on or after January 29, 2024, so that he may attend and participate in the Court proceedings. Respectfully, Chris Kise

Dear Mr. Kise I am sorry to hear the sad news. The request to postpone tomorrow's closing arguments is denied. I'm sure you realize, although you may not realize to what extent, that every appearance of Mr. Trump requires court officers, court clerks, administrators, security details, technical people, etc. to rearrange their schedules and to plan for the day. The administration even had to "evict" the jury trial currently taking place in Room 300 for tomorrow. Of course, I am also anxious to hear a full day of closing statements as I consider the case as a whole. On balance, going forward makes the most sense. Please tell Mr. Trump that I am sorry. I still hope and expect to hear from you by 11:00 AM this morning as to whether all this is even an issue. Justice Engoron

Moreover, Mr. Trump had the right to present testimony on Defendants' affirmative case but elected at the last minute not to do so (explaining in a subsequent social media post that he "already testified to everything and [has] nothing more to say"). Allowing Mr. Trump to participate in closing arguments would effectively grant him an opportunity to testify without being subject to cross-examination, thereby depriving the People of a fundamental right to their significant prejudice - especially in light of the Court's prior determination that Mr. Trump was not a credible witness

Kendra wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:36 pm I haven't seen it in print yet, but heard on CNN that tfg's attorneys have toss the Melania's mother died card onto the table, presumably to delay the hearing. Who had that option on their Bingo card? Will he continue to play it, even after he shows up for the town hall with Hannity tonight?

keith wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:47 pm He should ask permission to go to the funeral (i assume international travel is blocked at the moment). I'll bet he could get Vlad to come too.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:10 pm The emails exchanged between Kise and Engoron (and others): https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ge-engoron

Kise (apparently) doesn't know how to use capital letters.

keith wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:53 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:10 pm The emails exchanged between Kise and Engoron (and others): https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ge-engoron

Kise (apparently) doesn't know how to use capital letters.

Trump has cornered the market on capital letters.

northland10 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:01 pm

keith wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:53 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:10 pm The emails exchanged between Kise and Engoron (and others): https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ge-engoron

Kise (apparently) doesn't know how to use capital letters.

Trump has cornered the market on capital letters.

Not a problem for e.e. cummings or that weird birther dude who commented on Doc Conspiracy and other blogs using all lowercase. I forgot who he was (the birther dude, not e.e. cummings).

bob wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:51 pm

keith wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 6:47 pm He should ask permission to go to the funeral (i assume international travel is blocked at the moment). I'll bet he could get Vlad to come too.

Melania's parents naturalized in 2018 (ironically, as recipients of chain migration). They lived near their daughter and grandchild, be it in Florida, New York, or DC. News reports say she was living at MAL.

Rumor was that Melania was living with her parents in Maryland during the previous administration.

Kendra wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 7:41 pm Do we have any inkling if tfg was truly close to Melania's parents, or if he's just paying lip service to try to get his trial delayed?

Do we know if they'll be buried in the homeland, or in their new home where their daughter and grandson can visit the graves?

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:10 pm The emails exchanged between Kise and Engoron (and others): https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ge-engoron

Kise (apparently) doesn't know how to use capital letters.

chancery wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:17 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:10 pm The emails exchanged between Kise and Engoron (and others): https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ge-engoron

Kise (apparently) doesn't know how to use capital letters.

I get "Page not found" when I click on that link.

Former President Donald Trump spoke to reporters outside of the courtroom before closing arguments, calling the $370 million lawsuit against him and his company an “unconstitutional witch hunt."

It's "election interference at the highest level" and a "disgrace," Trump said, statements that have been a constant since New York Attorney General Letitia James filed the lawsuit.

Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski wrote: Trump arrives at NY courthouse whining and crying about how unfair everything is. He says he still hopes the judge will let him give the closing argument.

Tristan Snell @TristanSnell wrote: BREAKING: Bomb threat at home of Judge Engoron, the judge presiding over the NY AG civil fraud case against Trump. Bomb squad on site now.

Closing arguments in the case are TODAY. Looks like an attempt to delay - but by whom?

Did Trump himself have anything to do with it?