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SuzieC wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:42 pm They will lose this last minute untimely motion. How desperate is Trump?

p0rtia wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:00 pm MeidasTouch lawyers say Joe Taco is intentionally trying to rile the judge to create opportunities for mistrial. Not sure if they meant mistrial would be due to Judge being so annoyed he's make some error, or if the idea is to behave so badly (like bringing up topics the judge has said are not coming in) that judge will offer mistrial to EJ Caroll's team.

Both seem unlikely to me, although they were both mentioned at some point, so maybe it's something else.

Anyway, the point is that they think Joe Taco is being an ass in the hope of gaining some advantage.

I first became aware of Joe Taco a dozen years ago when he was representing Joran van der Sloot. He was a scuzzbag then, too. It wasn't just his lies, it was the uber heavy-handed denial of the facts of the case. And of course, coming across as a dumb fuck. But I assume that is intentional, to keep people from wanting to be in the same room with him, where they might be able to point out his awfulness.

RVInit wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:17 pm
Oh wow. I had no idea he had represented Van der Sloot. Is that guy still in prison? He got what I thought was a fairly short sentence for murder.* He is pretty much the only suspect in the disappearance of Natalie Holloway as well. I believe his father helped him dispose of her body out in the ocean, the two of them went out "fishing" pretty early in the AM, didn't take fishing gear, and came back, surprisingly, with no fish.

* I think sentences in other countries always seem short to me. In the USA we have a tendency to impose what I often think are terribly long sentences.

Team Trump Takes One More Stab At Pissing Off Judge Before Start Of E. Jean Carroll Defamation Trial
Cool strategy, bro.
By LIZ DYE on April 24, 2023 at 6:18 PM

On the eve of the E. Jean Carroll defamation trial, Trump’s lawyers are making one last push to maximally piss of Judge Lewis Kaplan before facing the jury.

The case was originally filed in 2019, and since then Trump has ducked process, removed to federal court, claimed that he was acting as president when he implied that Carroll was too unattractive to assault, moved to dismiss and postpone countless times, and generally made himself obnoxious to the court. Perhaps if he’d been less obstreperous and more inclined to turn his homework in on time, he’d have gotten a better reception back in March when his sparklemagic lawyer Alina Habba filed a bizarre motion to exclude evidence from Natasha Stoynoff and Jessica Leeds, two other women who accused Trump of making unwanted sexual advances, on the grounds that perhaps he hadn’t grabbed them by the genitals. She also sought to exclude the “Access Hollywood” tape where he famously bragged about his habit of grabbing women by the genitals.

Judge Kaplan rejected that motion, finding that the testimony and tape were pertinent under the Rule 415 FRE exception for propensity evidence in the case of sexual assault. He also found that the motion was untimely.
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Unsurprisingly, Judge Kaplan yeeted this one into the sun:

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:32 pm

SuzieC wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:42 pm They will lose this last minute untimely motion. How desperate is Trump?

Now they want to bring their own recording equipment into jury selection.

I’m looking for a DENINED in 3….2….1

ORDER terminating 121 Motion in Limine. In these circumstances, the motion to preclude defendant from offering evidence or making arguments prohibited by Fed. R. Evid. 412 (Dkt 121) is granted for the obvious reason that defendant should not be permitted to violate the rule.

bob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 3:03 pm "For completeness," Fed. R. Evid. 412 precludes evidence of a victim's other sexual behavior or sexual predisposition.

MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:56 pm But Trump's lawyers being Trump lawyers... will they still bring up the topic, knowing that it will be objected to, but still trying to bring doubt in to the minds of the jurors by just alluding to it?

OrlyLicious @Orly_licious 1m
Replying to @marlene4719
In the 90's I got to know Marla pretty well when she was in The Will Rogers Follies. I worked with Tommy Tune often (Tommy directed, AD Phil Oesterman put her in). She was a replacement for the wonderful Cady Huffman (who won the Tony). #CarrollVTrump

Marlene Robertson @marlene4719 3h
Pictured are photos of Marla Maples and E Jean Carroll in their younger days. The similarities between the two are staggering……So much for tRump claiming E Jean is not his type.

Tony - Resistance @TonyHussein4 2h
E. Jean Carroll civil rape trial will hear from second sexual assault accuser, Natasha Stoynoff. While Donald Trump is on trial for rape, President Joe Biden is on Air Force One. What a contrast between former President Trump and President Biden!

‘Fear and shame’: jury hears opening arguments in Trump civil assault trial
Writer E Jean Carroll is suing former president for battery and defamation for allegedly assaulting her at a store in 1996

Chris McGreal in New York
Wed 26 Apr 2023 02.07 BST

Donald Trump’s lawyer told a New York jury on Tuesday that the advice columnist E Jean Carroll conspired with other women to falsely accuse the former president of rape because they “hate” him for winning the 2016 election.

The opening day of a civil trial in a Manhattan federal court heard that Carroll is suing Trump for battery and defamation “to clear her name, to pursue justice and to get her life back” after the former president allegedly raped her in a New York department store in 1996 and then denied it years later.

But Trump’s lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, told the jury of three women and six men that Carroll filed the lawsuit for political ends, to sell a book and for public attention.

Tacopina said that the rape accusation was invented by Carroll and two other women who are expected to testify that she told them about the assault shortly afterwards.

“They schemed to hurt Donald Trump politically,” he said.

Tacopina suggested to the jury that Carroll first accused then president Trump of rape after meeting George Conway who was a vocal critic who was married to Kellyanne Conway, one of the president’s closest aides in the White House. The judge upheld an objection to the claim by Carroll’s lawyers. It is not clear if Tacopina will return to it when Carroll gives evidence.

Carroll accuses Trump of assaulting her in a dressing room of the New York department store Bergdorf Goodman in 1996 after they ran into each other at the entrance and he asked for help in choosing a present for a friend.

Carroll sat stony faced at the front of the courtroom as her lawyer, Shawn Crowley, told the jury that Trump manoeuvred her client into a dressing room and then attacked her. The lawyer said Trump banged Carroll’s head against the wall, pinned her arms back with one hand, pulled her tights down with the other and then rammed his fingers into her vagina.

Crowley said that Carroll kicked Trump and tried to knee him off but he was too strong for her.

“He removed his hand and forced his penis inside her,” the lawyer told the jury.

Crowley addressed what she said would be two of the biggest questions on the jurors minds. Why did Carroll go into the dressing room with Trump? And why didn’t she report the alleged rape to the police at the time?




https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... al-day-one