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Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:11 pm
by Dr. Ken

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:32 am
by scirreeve
Do you have a new twitter handle Zinwhit? I think I saw you there. Gonna pat myself on the back. I think (but could be wrong) that I was the 1st person to figure out the Ammon/Abish-husbondi/warehouse thingy. Brag over. Took the media a LONG time to figure it out.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:18 am
by ZinWhit
You probably did.

I found some more.

Then, I put it into a consumable that few consumed until appropriated.

Yes. It took a long time - as usual.

c'est la vie

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:23 am
by ZinWhit
I don't write much anymore. It makes me feel like shit. I invest heavily, lots of time and emotional effort. In the case of Bundy and the Sagebrush Rebs, my work has been appropriated several times by multiple authors and reporters including Amanda Marcotte, Leah Sottile, Betsy Quammen and now James Dawson. They all used my work without attribution months after I researched and wrote. Only one has attributed - Mary Franks.

I'd love for my wife and kids to see part of what I do. Instead, only my wife understands and soothes my soul.

It makes me want to say "fuck you" to these experts, journos and authors - sometimes you've seen it here at FB. Now you know why.

Compare.

Mine, 2 + months ago.

https://link.medium.com/LElBYIQVGob

Dawson and Boise PR yesterday.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/pol ... 81285.html

And, he still didn't get the PRN angle.

I sent my piece to multiple Idaho news sites, including their reporters, 6 weeks ago. I documented my frustration in posts earlier in this thread's time-line, late Jan-early Feb or so.

It's bullshit.

Thanks for reading my rant.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:15 pm
by Frater I*I
ZinWhit wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:23 am I don't write much anymore. It makes me feel like shit. I invest heavily, lots of time and emotional effort. In the case of Bundy and the Sagebrush Rebs, my work has been appropriated several times by multiple authors and reporters including Amanda Marcotte, Leah Sottile, Betsy Quammen and now James Dawson. They all used my work without attribution months after I researched and wrote. Only one has attributed - Mary Franks.

I'd love for my wife and kids to see part of what I do. Instead, only my wife understands and soothes my soul.

It makes me want to say "fuck you" to these experts, journos and authors - sometimes you've seen it here at FB. Now you know why.

Compare.

Mine, 2 + months ago.

https://link.medium.com/LElBYIQVGob

Dawson and Boise PR yesterday.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/pol ... 81285.html

And, he still didn't get the PRN angle.

I sent my piece to multiple Idaho news sites, including their reporters, 6 weeks ago. I documented my frustration in posts earlier in this thread's time-line, late Jan-early Feb or so.

It's bullshit.

Thanks for reading my rant.
We here appreciate your work

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:00 pm
by ZinWhit
Thank you.

For shits.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:20 pm
by Foggy
We definitely appreciate your work. :thumbsup:

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:54 pm
by scirreeve
I read your stuff - you do good work.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:19 am
by Uninformed
ZinWhit, I’m sure you realise that if your efforts were successful in curtailing the prophet’s insincere activities and exposing his true aims, there would no longer be an easy source of relatively regular half-arsed news stories for “reporters”. :mrgreen:

Even so, it seems your own work, whilst being unattributed, is gaining exposure. To me, anything that causes Ammon Bundy problems is a worthy cause.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:03 pm
by ZinWhit
Thank you, all.

Exposing Bundy (and backers) to protect public lands (flora/fauna) is the focus of my research/written work - and I've alienated myself from professionals in both the "sovcit" and "environmental" communities. So much so, I'm blocked on social media and my work never shared by either cadre (deplatformed).

Ex: IREHR was aware of Investigating Ammon piece, communicated with them. Burghardt never shared it - but does the appropriated.

Professionals who I sent my piece to over 6 weeks ago call those who appropriate my work "dogged," the research "outstanding."

So, yes, uninformed. I'm exposing. However, it's become emotionally untenable. I expect professionals and experts to be just that. Consistently, they are not. I mean, since #oregonstandoff.

I'm tired of it. The cycle.

I think I'm done with it.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:09 pm
by Uninformed
You have to do what’s best for you and your family and friends. :thumbsup:

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:39 am
by ZinWhit
Hemphill is making videos again.

This ignorant fuck has 72 grandchildren.


Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:07 am
by scirreeve
LOL - She gets sentenced on May 18.
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Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:41 am
by realist
ZinWhit wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:39 am Hemphill is making videos again.

This ignorant fuck has 72 grandchildren.

"Clavin"??

:rotflmao:

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 10:43 am
by bill_g
Calvin was taken already.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:34 pm
by ZinWhit
Before and just after #oregonstandoff JJ MacNab followed me on social media, appreciating some of my work. Then, I pressed both she and her cadre to include a description of a distinct Mormon subset of sovereign citizens that drive much of the indoctrination. I was promptly deplatformed by this cadre, a bigot.

Beyond religion/philosophy, that work was following the money of Skousen associate Bert Smith, owner of the NCCS (pocket constitutions) and NFLC (public lands).

Today on Sam Bushman's Smith funded show, he used two hours talking sovcits (he's been on a kick). Bushman is also the VP-OPS of the CSPOA - an org that Smith seed monied. His guest was Gerard Cote, Cote's employment since 4/16 is running the website https://sovereignhope.org/.

Here are his collaborators, supporters.

The sovereign movement has distinct segments, mostly religious based. This subset consisting of radical, well funded, religiously motivated Mormons should not be lumped with other Christians, especially Evangelical. It has been at the indoctrination forefront since the late-60s, building the foundation for today.

I mean, why is Islam treated differently through sect descriptors?

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:04 am
by scirreeve
Diego had a hissy fit about Baby Cyrus' wellness check yesterday.
https://freedomman.org/cyrus/archive/th ... yrus-again
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Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:50 am
by ZinWhit
Love the Donate Here button next to the headline.

Love that the grift is in the open, that Rodriquez has gained attention. It will help pressure state and federal LE & Depts of Revenue to investigate both he and Ammon - regardless of whether there is a formal complaint by the public as per Idaho.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:12 am
by ZinWhit
Adding, Bundy has not updated Campaign Finance info since 3/8, coinciding with his Independent bid. This is his longest stretch of no updates.

I hope he plays with this fire. He knows it's stoked.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:17 am
by bill_g
Off Topic

@zinwhit

Something happened yesterday that reminded me of your non-attribution woes: I found engineers using my wiring schematics that have had my mark removed.

I don't get sexy with my schematics. I just draw them up in Excel, and distribute them as pdf's. I made a blank template with grid squares, border, and a description bar along the bottom with the project name, drawing name, date, our company, my name. Pretty standard stuff. Generally for my consumption and future reference only. If as-builts are required as a deliverable, we have a drafting group do that based off my docs.

Sometimes a copy gets left behind on site to help the next guy figure out my madness. So, I was pleased to see my basic template on their desk. I recognized it immediately. And then I noticed our company name and my name had been excised somehow. The project name, schematic name, and date remained. Just the attribution had been removed, and now it is in wide circulation by this national engineering group to the field.

Well, how about them apples?

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:45 am
by ZinWhit
How awful.

You described it well: a good, bad feeling. I also see it as professionally corrupt and a personal violation of "worth." We worked hard, we put in time away from our families to do the work. Yet, a good number of professionals are ruthless, ethics (much less morals) an afterthought.

Like frat boys and girls looking over my shoulder in college or the insular/elite in-crowd who abuse the privilege of being in the top of a hierarchy knowing full well they are untouchable.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:56 pm
by Azastan
I can't help anyone with their attribution woes, but I do want to say that *I* appreciate all the hard work you do on the Bundy clan, and thank you very much for keeping us up to date on the worthless grifting scum.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:04 am
by ZinWhit
Thank you.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:44 am
by ZinWhit
A few tidbits to watch.

* PRN and Loving Liberty are conducting fire arms training, including concealed weapons. This started ramping in the last month.

* Soper's PRN faction is building to this summer in the KBasin, recently holding several events. The KBasin is, again, record drought and historically low winter precipitation. This summer in both the KBasin and most of Cali will be a nightmare.

Re: Bundy Clan 411

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:50 pm
by ZinWhit
Am spending some time following the money of this movement that coincided with the rise of PRN.

Got this in the mail the other day. Costs money.