Ain't a one of 'em going to get any serious jail time. They're all gonna slide and the left is going to go "see how nice we were to the criminals" and leave it open to happen again.
Ya know, these aren't kids, they don't need guidance or instruction: they knew exactly what they were doing that day and they're going to get away with it.
Just like congress not policing itself with the 14th Amendment.
Opportunities lost now are going to return bloody result in the future.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:16 am
by Foggy
I wish I could disagree.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:25 am
by fierceredpanda
Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:16 am
I wish I could disagree.
I do. The ones that are pleading now are the ones who are least culpable and least committed. The true believers who got really out of control on 1/6 aren't going to get such nice deals, and I suspect more than one will end up going to trial. We're talking about hundreds of defendants. To simply dismiss the whole bushel and say none of them is going to jail is, in my judgment, wildly premature at this point.
Y'all think DOJ is staffed with a bunch of bleeding heart lefties who just want to show everyone how merciful they are? Granted, I was only an intern there, and it's been a while, but that was distinctly not my experience.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:30 am
by bill_g
Well, we don't exactly want to invoke the alternative of lining the deluded up against the firing squad wall. They are mostly pawns. The leaders stretched the limits of the 1A as far as it can go. Their psyop manipulation of a large group succeeded. The internet did it's job. It's time to identify *Them*, put *Them* in jail, and rap the knuckles of the followers. This element has always existed. We've had konstitutional lesser lights ranging from moonshiner tax evaders to well armed religious zealots since the founding days with new examples every decade. Put the latest round of anti-gummint leadership in prison for a couple decades while the gullible try to return to a life.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:38 am
by sad-cafe
spare no second thought on them....
they spared none for the Speaker
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:30 am
by noblepa
The low hanging fruit is being harvested right now.
The run of the mill guy/gal who just put on a red MAGA hat and followed the crowd is being given the opportunity to plead out. At least a couple of them have said that they will cooperate with the DOJ to go after those more involved in the planning and execution of the more dangerous aspects of the attack.
The ones pleading guilty now are the little fish.
I think that, when we get to the big fish, we're going to see some jail time. A few might get some serious jail time (5 years or more). I'm thinking of zip-tie guy and the couple of insurrectionists who have been identified as carrying handguns into the capitol.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:06 am
by filly
New reporting on what was going on at the higher levels. This should have been a report by a major media outlet, but ProPublica is doing the work.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:07 am
by Slim Cognito
I'm cool with the littlest fish getting probation, but I really want them to do community service, like 100 well-supervised hours at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. I wouldn't trust them with Big Brothers/Sisters.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:22 am
by Kendra
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:23 am
by Kendra
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:27 am
by raison de arizona
Haul her back into court, she was clearly bullshitting the judge. Isn't that frowned upon?
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:33 am
by Kendra
covfefe wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:27 am
Haul her back into court, she was clearly bullshitting the judge. Isn't that frowned upon?
Goooooooooooooooooooo Brianna!!!
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:47 am
by Kendra
!! ALERT: Court has ordered US Justice Dept to release this video exhibit in Jan 6 case of Dan Egtvedt of Maryland
Egtvedt has pleaded NOT GUILTY in his case. Feds say this is first video of him facing off against police
This is what police saw and heard on Jan 6
(VULGAR)
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:53 am
by RVInit
I think the one that bothers me the most is the joker that was wearing tactical gear and carrying zip tie cuffs getting a plea deal. Of course, at this point I don't think we know what his deal actually is, but it had better involve jail time. This man came prepared to take someone into "custody", that is kidnapping. Yes, he did not succeed in kidnapping anyone, but his obvious intention is frightening. I hope the judge takes that into consideration in sentencing.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:18 pm
by noblepa
RVInit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:53 am
I think the one that bothers me the most is the joker that was wearing tactical gear and carrying zip tie cuffs getting a plea deal. Of course, at this point I don't think we know what his deal actually is, but it had better involve jail time. This man came prepared to take someone into "custody", that is kidnapping. Yes, he did not succeed in kidnapping anyone, but his obvious intention is frightening. I hope the judge takes that into consideration in sentencing.
"Zip Tie Guy", Eric Munchel has not, I believe been offered or accepted a plea deal. He has been released on bail, but has plead not guilty.
On June 2, the charges against him and his mother were significantly increased, after it was revealed that he carried a Taser into the capitol.
But, I agree with you. I will be very unhappy if he gets off without spending a significant amount of time (several years) behind bars.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:34 pm
by RVInit
Thanks for the correction, noblepa! i must have read something wrong, glad to hear that not only is he not getting a deal, but sounds like his charges are even more than what I was aware of.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:14 pm
by bob
Too also: Larry Brock, an Air Force vet from Texas, also was photographed holding zip ties. (IIRC, he said he picked them up so others wouldn't.)
Brock, I believe, has not accepted a plea (assuming one was offered).
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:24 am
by Kendra
D.C. Police Officer Michael Fanone, who was beaten during the Jan. 6th insurrection, and Harry Dunn, a U.S. Capitol Police officer who faced rioters, leave a meeting with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
D.C. Police Officer Michael Fanone, who was beaten during the Jan. 6th insurrection, and Harry Dunn, a U.S. Capitol Police officer who faced rioters, leave a meeting with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
(AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:33 am
by neonzx
Officer Michael Fanone Injured in Capitol Riots Says 'I Need a Drink' After McCarthy Meeting
Michael Fanone, a D.C. Metropolitan Police officer who was attacked and injured by insurrectionists during the January 6 Capitol riots, said "I need a drink" after his Friday meeting with Republican House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
Fanone requested the meeting last month. In the meeting, he reportedly asked McCarthy to denounce the 21 Republican members of Congress who voted against awarding the Congressional Gold Medal to police officers who defended the Capitol during the riots.
Fanone also asked McCarthy to reprimand Georgia Rep. Andrew Clyde for saying that the Capitol riots looked like a "normal tourist visit." Lastly, Fanone requested that McCarthy disavow Republican conspiracy theories that the FBI was involved in causing the riots, CNN congressional correspondent Ryan Nobles reported.
"I asked [McCarthy] specifically for a commitment to denounce [those comments] publicly, and he said that he would address it at a personal level with some of those members," Fanone told reporters after the meeting. "But again, I think that as a leader of the House Republican Party, it's important to hear those denouncements publicly."
Fanone said that, in his mind, McCarthy didn't agree to any of his requests. When asked why Fanone said, "I need a drink" after his meeting. The officer explained, "This experience for me is not something that I enjoy doing. I don't want to be up here on Capitol Hill. I want to be with my daughters."
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:58 am
by Kendra
I Officer Fanone.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:03 am
by raison de arizona
He’s really relentless and a credit to that department.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:19 am
by Kendra
And seeing him sitting there with a Democrat and a Republican on either side. I heard some report the Fox refuses to book Fanone.
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:26 am
by Kendra
Edit, wrong thread
Re: Assault on the Capitol (DC)
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:29 am
by Slim Cognito
I've been expecting this.
Too also, instead of sending LE to Miami to assist, DeSantis sent them to the border for photo ops.
Officer Fanone.
