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E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:32 pm
by Reality Check
ICP tweeted:
Drum roll, 5 minute warning: "Please be advised that a verdict has been reached in the above action and will be read in open court at 4:35PM"

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:41 pm
by chancery
https://twitter.com/innercitypress/stat ... 0130105705
Inner City Press
@innercitypress
Andy (clerk): 7.1 million... 11 million... punitives: $65 million

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:41 pm
by bob
$83.3 million total.

Expect, among other post-verdict motions, that $65M is excessive in relation to the $18.3M for actual damages.

(65/18.3 = 3.55, for the math/legal nerds.)

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:42 pm
by Reality Check
:thumbsup: :notworthy: :grouphug: :bar:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:42 pm
by Kendra
$83.3 million combined says MSNBC.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:43 pm
by AndyinPA
:bunny: :bunny: :bunny:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:43 pm
by Tiredretiredlawyer
🥂🥂🥂
Another multimillion dollar judgment!! Hooray for punitives!!!!!!!!! And hooray for the quick verdict turnaround!!!

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:44 pm
by Reality Check
I was going to predict $12 M and $50 M. This exceeds that.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:45 pm
by p0rtia
:winner: :winner: :winner:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:47 pm
by Reality Check
Alina Habba: "But, but I am pretty! How could this happen?"

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:48 pm
by Volkonski
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:48 pm
by Resume18
Reality Check wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:44 pm I was going to predict $12 M and $50 M. This exceeds that.
Ditto. I hope things keep getting worse for the shit-gibbon.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:50 pm
by AndyinPA
I hope he regrets ever coming down those escalator steps.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:52 pm
by Volkonski
Too bad Trump left the courthouse before the verdict was read.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:52 pm
by p0rtia
I was thinking that.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:52 pm
by Reality Check
As realist (I think) would say - for completeness: (Inner City Press, who did a fantastic job the entire trial.)
Judge Kaplan: I'm advised the jury has reached a verdict. We will have no outbursts in these proceedings, we will maintain decorum. Bring in the jury.
Jury entering!
Judge Kaplan: Please hand the verdict to Andy... Thank you. Clerk will read the verdict
Andy: id Ms. Carroll prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that 1. Ms. Carroll suffered more than nominal damages as a result of Mr. Trump’s publication of the June 21 and June 22, 2019 statements? Answer Yes.
Andy (clerk): 7.1 million... 11 million... punitives: $65 million
Judge Kaplan; Members of the jury, there was years ago a respected judge of this court would made it a practice never to thank a jury. Judge Weinfeld thought it was a duty - I think juries should be thanked
Judge Kaplan: If you wish to speak after the verdict - I order you not to disclose the names of any other juror, and I advise you not to disclose your own name.
Judge Kaplan: The transportation arrangements have been made. Enjoy the weekend.
[Jury leaves]
Judge Kaplan: Any other business?
Ms Habba: I would just like to thank the court staff
Judge Kaplan: You're welcome on their behalf. Adjourned.
Story (and vlog?) coming

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:55 pm
by Foggy
Yeah, this is how I like my Smackdown Fridays. Come on, Judge Engoron, you can pile on Prisoner #P01135809. :thumbsup:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:55 pm
by Frater I*I
Sucks to be Zee Orange Furher today :rotflmao:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:56 pm
by raison de arizona
Can't wait for tfg's inevitable meltdown.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:59 pm
by Reality Check
p0rtia wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:54 pm Just caught Lisa Rubin's take on closings--
:snippity:
Deer MSNBC and Rachael Maddow.

Please find a better legal "expert". This one sucks.

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:59 pm
by Flatpoint High
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:56 pm Can't wait for tfg's inevitable meltdown.
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E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:02 pm
by Kendra
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 0073262515
Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party. Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon. They have taken away all First Amendment Rights. THIS IS NOT AMERICA!

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:06 pm
by raison de arizona
Kendra wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:02 pm https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 0073262515
Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party. Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon. They have taken away all First Amendment Rights. THIS IS NOT AMERICA!
Does he have to post an appeal bond to appeal? Is that a thing?

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:13 pm
by Foggy
He "fully" disagrees. :roll:

E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:14 pm
by rossgw
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:06 pm
Does he have to post an appeal bond to appeal? Is that a thing?
He had to post one for the previous trial where he was also found guilty, trump posted $5.6 million to act as security so I assume in this case he will have to do the same.