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RVInit wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:05 am What was "Stop the Steal" supposed to actually mean, if it did not mean to prevent Biden from being certified and officially recognized as the President-Elect?

RVInit wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:05 am What was "Stop the Steal" supposed to actually mean, if it did not mean to prevent Biden from being certified and officially recognized as the President-Elect?

bill_g wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:29 pm

RVInit wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:05 am What was "Stop the Steal" supposed to actually mean, if it did not mean to prevent Biden from being certified and officially recognized as the President-Elect?

[devil's advocate]

STOP THE STEAL could have been conducted like any other protest by standing in front of the Capital en masse with signs, singing, shouting et al to show their dissatisfaction.

The Capital was closed to the public preventing their physical presence in the chamber. There were no trees to sit in (logging), or bulldozers to stand in front of (pipeline). They best they could accomplish was to gather a large group, and make their presence known.

[/devil's advocate]

RVInit wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:05 am What was "Stop the Steal" supposed to actually mean, if it did not mean to prevent Biden from being certified and officially recognized as the President-Elect?

bob wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 12:59 pm

RVInit wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:05 am What was "Stop the Steal" supposed to actually mean, if it did not mean to prevent Biden from being certified and officially recognized as the President-Elect?

The plauble-deniability answer would be they were going to "stop the steal" by "encouraging" the vice president to lawfully and totes constitutionally! "pause" the certification (to rustle up some alternative slates of electors).

"Just because it was unprecedented doesn't mean it was wrong or done in bad faith," and such weak excuses.

AndyinPA wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:26 pm The title saying Commission has been bothering me for a good while since we never got one. Changed to Committee, which is what we got.

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:39 pm Jim Jordan posts 4 page letter saying he’s not gonna cooperate because Benghazi!

The public focus of Congress’ Jan. 6 investigation, so far, is what happened in Washington, D.C. Behind the scenes, the probe’s state-level work is kicking into overdrive.

The House committee investigating the Capitol attack has gathered thousands of records from state officials and interviewed a slate of witnesses as it attempts to retrace former President Donald Trump's attempts to subvert the 2020 election, particularly in four key states that swung the presidency to Joe Biden. They're getting ready to take their work public, possibly as soon as the spring.

“We want to let the public see and hear from those individuals who conducted elections in those states,” select panel chair Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) said in an interview. He described those witnesses as particularly important given their mandates to keep elections “fair and impartial” while hailing from one political party.

Kendra wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:36 am https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/1 ... ion-526752

The public focus of Congress’ Jan. 6 investigation, so far, is what happened in Washington, D.C. Behind the scenes, the probe’s state-level work is kicking into overdrive.

The House committee investigating the Capitol attack has gathered thousands of records from state officials and interviewed a slate of witnesses as it attempts to retrace former President Donald Trump's attempts to subvert the 2020 election, particularly in four key states that swung the presidency to Joe Biden. They're getting ready to take their work public, possibly as soon as the spring.

“We want to let the public see and hear from those individuals who conducted elections in those states,” select panel chair Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) said in an interview. He described those witnesses as particularly important given their mandates to keep elections “fair and impartial” while hailing from one political party.

What's happening: Jonathon Moseley, a lawyer who has represented the far-right militia group in a civil lawsuit and who represents one member facing criminal charges, told POLITICO that he and Oath Keepers head Stewart Rhodes discussed the Jan. 6 panel's subpoena last week.

Moseley added that Rhodes may appear before committee investigators on Jan. 19.

“I believe he will not answer questions but assert the Fifth Amendment,” Moseley said. “Again, though, he is still reviewing these plans with counsel.”

“I believe no one can be sure what the law will be next month or next year, so anyone would have to plead the Fifth Amendment,” Moseley added, citing the government’s prosecutions under a statute barring witness tampering.

Important context: Rhodes has not been charged with any crime in connection to the insurrection and did not enter the Capitol on Jan. 6. But his leadership of Oath Keepers has made him a top focus for congressional investigators.

neonzx wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:48 pm

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:39 pm Jim Jordan posts 4 page letter saying he’s not gonna cooperate because Benghazi!

Surprise (not). But remember to address him as "Gym Jordan", the pederast protector.

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:39 pm Jim Jordan posts 4 page letter saying he’s not gonna cooperate because Benghazi!

Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:31 pm

Greatgrey wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:39 pm Jim Jordan posts 4 page letter saying he’s not gonna cooperate because Benghazi!

I'd prefer to not read 4 pages of Jim Jordan's junk - is there a short summary of how he is applying Benghazi to this investigation? It strikes me as odd that anyone would want to bring Benghazi up right now given that it truly was an unending witch hunt where one incident was being investigated multiple times. With Trump, there have been multiple investigations, each over a single incident (or group of incidents) - the main ones being Russia, Ukraine and Jan 6th.

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:59 pm That was hyperbole. The letter says I Know Nothing About 1/6 and Here's All The Reasons It Was All Your Fault. So I Won't Testify.

The Jan. 6 Committee issued subpoenas on Tuesday to three people purportedly involved in discussions with Trump administration officials and rally planners on Jan. 6.

The panel issued subpoenas to Arthur Schwartz, Andy Surabian, and Ross Worthington, all Republican political operatives who worked in support of the Trump administration.