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Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:20 pm
My point being, to stay on topic, is I wouldn't be surprised if dozens of men or more were killed in the original blast/fire and whomever survived could very easily have been forced to stay on board to try to keep the boat afloat, with no regard for their safety. If that's the case, who knows how many drowned from that.

qbawl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:38 pm

Off Topic

I probably should know but what's Bob up to there days? Analysis at Faux would be a good fit. SIRI thinks he's 84 so still kicking' I guess.

Post-war life

On 25 June 2003, British newspaper the Daily Mirror reported that al-Sahhaf had been captured by coalition troops at a roadblock in Baghdad.[4] The report was not confirmed by military authorities and was denied by al-Sahhaf's family through Abu Dhabi TV. The next day, al-Sahhaf recorded an interview for Dubai-based news channel al-Arabiya.[10] He was reportedly paid as much as US$200,000 for the television interview, during which he appeared very withdrawn, in contrast with the bombastic persona he projected during the war. Many of his answers consisted of a simple "yes" or "no". He refused to speculate on the causes of the downfall of the Iraqi government and answered only "history will tell" when asked if video clips purporting to prove that Saddam Hussein was alive were genuine, amid speculation at that time that Hussein had been killed during the war.

His fame quickly evaporated as the war continued into the insurgency phase; from the middle of 2003 onward, he faded from the public spotlight, and was no longer a figure in the war. Al-Sahhaf said that he had surrendered to United States forces, had been interrogated by them and then released.[11][12] He was not charged for his role in Saddam Hussein's government.[12]

In March 2008, it was reported by The Times that al-Sahhaf was living in the United Arab Emirates.

MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:41 am

bill_g wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:09 am It was accidentally damaged trying to avoid the stupid Ukrainian farmer and his tractor out at sea.

jemcanada2 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:11 am

bill_g wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:09 am It was accidentally damaged trying to avoid the stupid Ukrainian farmer and his tractor out at sea.

Oops! Silly me!

MN-Skeptic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:43 am

Russia’s faltering war against Ukraine suffered a pair of setbacks Thursday when the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet sank after a catastrophic explosion and fire, as the European Union moved closer to an embargo on Russian oil imports.

Ukraine claimed to have struck the vessel, the guided missile cruiser Moskva, with two of its own Neptune missiles, while Russia said the blast was caused by ammunition aboard the ship. If confirmed, the missile attack would be a serious blow to Russia, both militarily and symbolically — proof that its ships can no longer operate with impunity, and another damaging blow to morale.

It would also give a lift to Ukrainian hopes, while demonstrating the defenders’ homegrown technological capacity and exposing an embarrassing weakness in the Russian navy’s antimissile defenses.

Moscow also faces the possible loss of European markets in fossil fuels, which are providing billions of dollars a month to support its war effort. The European Union has long resisted calls to reduce its energy dependency on Russia, but officials revealed on Thursday that an oil embargo is in the works and is likely to be adopted in the coming weeks.

Michael McFaul
@McFaul
Everyone in America and the world should watch this talk today by @CIA Director William Burns and be deeply thankful we have Bill in this job at this most critical moment in world history.

Russian warship sunken in Ukraine war may have been carrying a piece of the 'true cross,' a treasured Christian relic

The Moskva, Russia's Black Sea fleet flagship, sank on Thursday after an explosion.

Russian state media reported in 2020 that the ship was due to take a holy relic on board.

It's unclear whether the relic — a piece of the "true cross" — was on board when the Moskva sank.

The Russian warship that was confirmed as sunk on Thursday may have been carrying a holy relic when it went down.

Suranis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:47 pm I haven't watched it myself yet, but apparently just one of his takeaways is that the longer and worse the Ukraine war goes the more likely Putin will unleash the Nukes.

Edit: I have the True Cross; everybody chill. I glued some tweezers on it and made it into a roach clip.

Volkonski wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:49 pm

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:10 pm

Russian warship sunken in Ukraine war may have been carrying a piece of the 'true cross,' a treasured Christian relic

The Moskva, Russia's Black Sea fleet flagship, sank on Thursday after an explosion.

Russian state media reported in 2020 that the ship was due to take a holy relic on board.

It's unclear whether the relic — a piece of the "true cross" — was on board when the Moskva sank.

The Russian warship that was confirmed as sunk on Thursday may have been carrying a holy relic when it went down.

https://news.yahoo.com/russian-warship- ... 46009.html