Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Mon May 21, 2018 11:02 pm

Hey guys, I was just trying to find some good in Philpot.

Even the dumbest poots should figure out that the case was not good if no other lawyers would take it. The current "legal team" of Philpot and Koerber may have told the Finicum clan that they are the only lawyers who have any possibility of winning.



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Post by Fortinbras » Mon May 21, 2018 11:07 pm

If they are not particularly successful lawyers, it may be because they have not particularly good judgment ... so they might sincerely believe that they might have a good chance of winning, just as my neighbor's 4-year-old thinks if he puts on a Superman cape he has a good change of jumping safely off off the roof.



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Post by scirreeve » Mon May 21, 2018 11:18 pm

Fortinbras wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 11:07 pm
If they are not particularly successful lawyers, it may be because they have not particularly good judgment ... so they might sincerely believe that they might have a good chance of winning, just as my neighbor's 4-year-old thinks if he puts on a Superman cape he has a good change of jumping safely off off the roof.
Domino's delivers more than pizza - law degrees too. Philpoot's alma mater.
Thomas S. Monaghan, founder of Domino's Pizza and former owner of the Detroit Tigers, supports the school through his Ave Maria Foundation and has served as the chairman of the board of governors of the school,
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Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia assisted Ave Maria School of Law leadership in developing the school's curriculum, and in 1999 Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas delivered the school's first annual Ave Maria Lecture.[14] Former professors include Robert Bork.
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In July 2017, 51.3% of Ave Maria graduates who took the Florida bar exam for the first time passed, vs. a 71.3% pass rate overall. This performance tied Ave Maria for second-to-last in the state.

According to Ave Maria's ABA-required disclosures, 57.1% of the Class of 2016 found long-term full-time employment where a JD is required.
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As reported in The Chronicle of Higher Education, Ave Maria School of Law was one of 114 private colleges nationwide to fail a federal financial responsibility test in 2007, 2008, and 2009.[30][31] In a statement about the Chronicle report, the ten-year-old law school said its low asset-to-debt ratio was “typical of recently founded institutions” and “represents no change in our fiscal health and should not be cause for concern.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave_Maria_School_of_Law



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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by NMgirl » Tue May 22, 2018 12:07 am

scirreeve wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 11:18 pm
:snippity:
Domino's delivers more than pizza - law degrees too. Philpoot's alma mater.
:snippity:
Ave Maria School of Law's first campus was a storefront in a strip mall in Ann Arbor, Michigan. When Philpoot began his law school studies, the school was not yet even accredited.


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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by pipistrelle » Tue May 22, 2018 6:21 am

Wasn’t the Finch out of her name for awhile?



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Post by scirreeve » Tue May 22, 2018 10:34 am

pipistrelle wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 6:21 am
Wasn’t the Finch out of her name for awhile?
Yes, at least her FB name. I noticed that she added it back last week. She says she is not back together with Spencer though.



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Post by realist » Thu May 24, 2018 11:09 am

Sorta related

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-stando ... _3d_m.html
Government expert who did 3D model of Finicum shooting scene admits errors made


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Post by scirreeve » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:11 pm

Status conference scheduled in Pendleton for the lawsuit.
2:18-cv-160-SU - Finicum et al v. United States of America et al [Status Conference]
Date and Time: Thursday, July 19, 2018 , at 11:00 am
Location : 104 Southwest Dorion
Judge: Sullivan



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Post by NMgirl » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:16 pm

scirreeve wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:11 pm
Status conference scheduled in Pendleton for the lawsuit.
2:18-cv-160-SU - Finicum et al v. United States of America et al [Status Conference]
Date and Time: Thursday, July 19, 2018 , at 11:00 am
Location : 104 Southwest Dorion
Judge: Sullivan
I haven't been paying enough attention. Is this lawsuit (should it come to trial) going to be in Pendleton :?: This is bad news, as it will be a jury trial for sure.


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Post by scirreeve » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:19 pm

The status conference for the other lawsuit (the sovcit one) will be held at the same time.
2:18-cv-165-MO - Cox et al v. Astarita et al [Status Conference]
Date and Time: Thursday, July 19, 2018 , at 11:00 am
Location : 104 Southwest Dorion
Judge: Sullivan



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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by scirreeve » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:20 pm

NMgirl wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:16 pm
scirreeve wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:11 pm
Status conference scheduled in Pendleton for the lawsuit.
2:18-cv-160-SU - Finicum et al v. United States of America et al [Status Conference]
Date and Time: Thursday, July 19, 2018 , at 11:00 am
Location : 104 Southwest Dorion
Judge: Sullivan
I haven't been paying enough attention. Is this lawsuit (should it come to trial) going to be in Pendleton :?: This is bad news, as it will be a jury trial for sure.
Yes - it is in Pendleton.



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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by Curmudgeon » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:38 pm

There's nothing to stop the prosecution from moving to bring jurors from all over the state.....


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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:43 pm

scirreeve wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:20 pm
NMgirl wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:16 pm
scirreeve wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:11 pm
Status conference scheduled in Pendleton for the lawsuit.
I haven't been paying enough attention. Is this lawsuit (should it come to trial) going to be in Pendleton :?: This is bad news, as it will be a jury trial for sure.
Yes - it is in Pendleton.
Most defendants should get out on motions challenging the pleadings. The rest on summary judgment. I think it is doubtful this case will ever get to a jury trial. A few of the defendants may have to respond to discovery.



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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by woodworker » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:21 pm

NMgirl wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:16 pm
scirreeve wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:11 pm
Status conference scheduled in Pendleton for the lawsuit.
2:18-cv-160-SU - Finicum et al v. United States of America et al [Status Conference]
Date and Time: Thursday, July 19, 2018 , at 11:00 am
Location : 104 Southwest Dorion
Judge: Sullivan
I haven't been paying enough attention. Is this lawsuit (should it come to trial) going to be in Pendleton :?: This is bad news, as it will be a jury trial for sure.
Never going to get that far. Motions to Dismiss and for Summary Judgment will take care of this. And any remnants left will be handled by the Deep State.


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Post by Kendra » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:32 pm

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Update from Cry-Me-Challice, but she talks more about being pregnant and very little about raising $$ for the lawyer fees.



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Post by NotaPerson » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:43 pm

Kendra wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:32 pm
Update from Cry-Me-Challice, but she talks more about being pregnant and very little about raising $$ for the lawyer fees.
I can't help feeling sorry for this poor deluded young woman. She probably thinks she's going to raise thousands of dollars from her fundraiser. More likely, it'll be a few hundred bucks.


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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by Kendra » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:00 pm

NotaPerson wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:43 pm
Kendra wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:32 pm
Update from Cry-Me-Challice, but she talks more about being pregnant and very little about raising $$ for the lawyer fees.
I can't help feeling sorry for this poor deluded young woman. She probably thinks she's going to raise thousands of dollars from her fundraiser. More likely, it'll be a few hundred bucks.
I must be the cold one. Her tears don't move me. Ever.



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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by Curmudgeon » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:21 pm

Kendra wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:00 pm
NotaPerson wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:43 pm
Kendra wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:32 pm
Update from Cry-Me-Challice, but she talks more about being pregnant and very little about raising $$ for the lawyer fees.
I can't help feeling sorry for this poor deluded young woman. She probably thinks she's going to raise thousands of dollars from her fundraiser. More likely, it'll be a few hundred bucks.
I must be the cold one. Her tears don't move me. Ever.
You're not alone. I suspect mental health professionals would counsel her to come to grips with the fact that her father was just a piece of shit who put ego above family.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.


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Post by NMgirl » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:26 pm

Off Topic
I try not to make comments on personal appearance, but what is with Poots and their foreheads :?: Does the gene that makes you a Poot manifest itself in this physical characteristic as well as turning you into an ignorant, self-centered, attention-demanding scofflaw :?:


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Post by pipistrelle » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:41 pm

Who’s the father? He can kick in.



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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by Reality Check » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:48 pm

Kendra wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:32 pm
► Show Spoiler
Update from Cry-Me-Challice, but she talks more about being pregnant and very little about raising $$ for the lawyer fees.
Is there a rule that people named Chalice are assholes? :-D


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Post by NMgirl » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:10 pm

Because why not? Docket Report from RECAP:
Last updated: June 20, 2018, 3:47 p.m. PDT

Assigned To: Patricia Sullivan

Date Filed: Jan. 25, 2018

Cause: 28:2671 Federal Tort Claims Act

Nature of Suit: 890 Other Statutory Actions

Jury Demand: Plaintiff

1 Jan 25, 2018
Complaint. Filing fee in the amount of $400 collected. Agency Tracking ID: 0979-5291182 Jury Trial Requested: Yes. Filed by Jeanette Finicum against US GOvernment. (Ludwig, Lisa) (Entered: 01/26/2018)

2 Jan 26, 2018
Notice of Case Assignment to Magistrate Judge Patricia Sullivan and Discovery and Pretrial Scheduling Order. NOTICE: Counsel shall print and serve the summonses and all documents issued by the Clerk at the time of filing upon all named parties in accordance with Local Rule 3-5. Discovery is to be completed by 5/29/2018. Joint Alternate Dispute Resolution Report is due by 6/25/2018. Pretrial Order is due by 6/25/2018. Ordered by Magistrate Judge Patricia Sullivan. (joha) (Entered: 01/26/2018)

2 Jan 26, 2018
Notice of Appearance of James S. Smith appearing on behalf of Katherine Brown, Oregon State Police, State of Oregon Filed by on behalf of Katherine Brown, Oregon State Police, State of Oregon. (Smith, James) (Entered: 01/26/2018)

4 Jan 29, 2018
Civil Cover Sheet regarding Complaint 1 . Filed by All Plaintiffs. (joha) (Entered: 01/29/2018)

5 Feb 28, 2018
Notice of Appearance of Casey S. Murdock appearing on behalf of Steven E. Grasty, Harney County, David M. Ward Thomas F. Armosino, Lead Attorney, Filed by on behalf of Steven E. Grasty, Harney County, David M. Ward. (Murdock, Casey) (Entered: 02/28/2018)

6 Mar 5, 2018
Notice of Appearance of Thomas F. Armosino appearing on behalf of Steven E. Grasty, Harney County, David M. Ward Filed by on behalf of Steven E. Grasty, Harney County, David M. Ward. (Armosino, Thomas) (Entered: 03/05/2018)

7 Apr 23, 2018
Notice of Appearance of J. Morgan Philpot appearing on behalf of All Plaintiffs Filed by on behalf of All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/23/2018)

8 Apr 23, 2018
Proposed Summons for Def. Center for Biological Diversity Filed by All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/23/2018)

9 Apr 23, 2018
Proposed Summons Def. Harney County, Oregon Filed by All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/23/2018)

10 Apr 23, 2018
Proposed Summons Def. State of Oregon Filed by All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/23/2018)

11 Apr 23, 2018
Proposed Summons Def. United States - UA Attorney Filed by All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/23/2018)

12 Apr 23, 2018
Proposed Summons Def. United States DOJ OR Dist. Atty. Filed by All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/23/2018)

13 Apr 24, 2018
Amended Proposed Summons (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Summons, # 2 Proposed Summons, # 3 Proposed Summons, # 4 Proposed Summons, # 5 Proposed Summons, # 6 Proposed Summons, # 7 Proposed Summons, # 8 Proposed Summons, # 9 Proposed Summons, # 10 Proposed Summons, # 11 Proposed Summons, # 12 Proposed Summons, # 13 Proposed Summons) Filed by All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/24/2018)

14 Apr 24, 2018
Summons Issued Electronically as to W. Joseph Astarita, BLM, Greg T. Bretzing, Katherine Brown, Center For Biological Diversity, FBI, Steven E. Grasty, Salvatore Lauro, Daniel P. Love, Oregon State Police, Harry Mason Reid, United States of America, David M. Ward, Ronald Lee Wyden. NOTICE: Counsel shall print and serve the summonses and all documents issued by the Clerk at the time of filing upon all named parties in accordance with Local Rule 3-5. (ecp) (Entered: 04/24/2018)

15 Apr 24, 2018
Amended Proposed Summons (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Summons, # 2 Proposed Summons, # 3 Proposed Summons, # 4 Proposed Summons, # 5 Proposed Summons, # 6 Proposed Summons, # 7 Proposed Summons) Filed by All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/24/2018)

16 Apr 24, 2018
Amended Summons Issued Electronically as to W. Joseph Astarita, BLM, Greg T. Bretzing, FBI, Salvatore Lauro, Daniel P. Love, Harry Mason Reid, Ronald Lee Wyden. NOTICE: Counsel shall print and serve the summonses and all documents issued by the Clerk at the time of filing upon all named parties in accordance with Local Rule 3-5. (ecp) (Entered: 04/24/2018)

17 Apr 24, 2018
First Amended Complaint . Filed by Tierra Collier, Tean Finicum, Thomas Kinne, Estate of Robert LaVoy Finicum, D. Jeanette Finicum, Challice Finch, Mitch Finicum, Tawny Crane, Robert Finicum, Brittney Beck, Arianna Brown, Danielle Finicum, James Finicum, Thara Tenney against All Defendants. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/24/2018)

18 Apr 25, 2018
Motion for Extension of Time for Service upon Defendants. Filed by All Plaintiffs. (Philpot, J.) (Entered: 04/25/2018)

19 May 1, 2018
ORDER: Motion for Extension of Time 18 is GRANTED. Plaintiff has until 5/25/18 to serve Defendants. Ordered by Magistrate Judge Patricia Sullivan. (dsg) (Entered: 05/01/2018)

20 May 4, 2018
Notice of Appearance of Amy R. Atwood appearing on behalf of Center For Biological Diversity Filed by on behalf of Center For Biological Diversity. (Atwood, Amy) (Entered: 05/04/2018)

21 May 4, 2018
Corporate Disclosure Statement . Filed by Center For Biological Diversity. (Atwood, Amy) (Entered: 05/04/2018)

22 May 11, 2018
Unopposed Motion for Extension of Time to Answer by Non-Federal Defendants. Filed by Harney County, Oregon State Police, Katherine Brown, David M. Ward, Center For Biological Diversity, Steven E. Grasty, State of Oregon. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order) (Atwood, Amy) (Entered: 05/11/2018)

23 May 15, 2018
ORDER: Motion for Extension of Time to Answer 22 is GRANTED. Answer for Non-Federal Defendants is due by 7/23/2018. Ordered by Magistrate Judge Patricia Sullivan. (dsg) (Entered: 05/15/2018)
And PACER from June 20-June 26:
06/22/2018-- 24-- Notice of Appearance of Leah Brownlee Taylor appearing on behalf of Greg T. Bretzing, United States of America Filed by on behalf of Greg T. Bretzing, United States of America. (Brownlee Taylor, Leah) (Entered: 06/22/2018)

06/22/2018-- 25-- Motion for Extension of Time to File a Responsive Pleading and to Set a Consolidated Responsive Pleading Deadline. Filed by Greg T. Bretzing, United States of America. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed Order) (Brownlee Taylor, Leah) (Entered: 06/22/2018)

06/25/2018-- 26-- Scheduling Order: Status Conference is set for 7/19/2018 at 11:00AM in Pendleton before Magistrate Judge Patricia Sullivan.
Ordered by Magistrate Judge Patricia Sullivan. (dsg) (Entered: 06/25/2018)
Are these docs as yawn-y as they appear to be from the docket :?: If not, let me know and I will fetch anything that looks even remotely interesting.

Even a cursory glance at Judge Patricia Sullivan's judicial history reveals that she has had more than her fair share of Poot cases: a miner living on USFS land (Medenbach and Sugar Pine), a rancher illegally grazing his cattle on Fed-owned land (just so many welfare rancher Poots), among other Pooty cases. No wonder she wants to retire, poor thing.


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Re: Finicum Lawsuit

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Post by pipistrelle » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:22 pm

I watched Challice's video because it was short by their standards.

Hasn't she been pregnant before? Quelle surprise there are symptoms.

Why is the lawsuit so expensive? I thought it shouldn't be.

Anyone ever ask her why they're suing the Center for Biological Diversity, which has nothing to do with anything? Or really Grasty and Ward? They didn't cause his death (yes, I know he caused his death, but even being a little generous).

She's kind of whiny and sounds like a teenager. How old is she?



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Post by Curmudgeon » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:23 pm

I know I'm repairing myself, but Ave Maria (Philpoot's law school) translates to "Hail Mary," and this suit seems like a last minute desperation pass in football.


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Post by Curmudgeon » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:26 pm

pipistrelle wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:22 pm
Anyone ever ask her why they're suing the Center for Biological Diversity, which has nothing to do with anything? Or really Grasty and Ward? They didn't cause his death (yes, I know he caused his death, but even being a little generous).
They've named everybody but the Burns street cleaner.
My take is that it's harassment. Nobody could be that stupid.
..... but on second thought, poots are a special case.
I hope massive counter-suits are on the horizon.


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