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Which is why Ukraine's requesting former Soviet Blocs' planes is intriguing. No one can stop Russia from making any rationalization. But Ukrainians' flying Soviet planes isn't worth whining about.
Fuckwit sure knows how to pick 'em. Disgusting.
More at the link, including an overview of the past use of no-fly-zones: https://warontherocks.com/2022/03/the-d ... -fly-zone/The fact that Russia does not yet have air superiority has not significantly impeded its advance. Ukraine does not control its skies either — the two sides have air parity. Enforcement of a no-fly zone would require overflight of Ukrainian airspace, putting coalition forces directly in the air space both sides are fighting over — and at extreme risk from both Russian and Ukrainian air defenses. Surface-based air defenses in bordering nations could only command airspace where Russian aircraft aren’t flying, having no practical effect except to commit NATO. The obvious Russian response, attacking aircraft over Ukraine from outside Ukraine, would be yet another escalatory element that would render Russian air defenses politically immune from counterattack.
From a distant viewpoint, the no-fly zone might seem like a somewhat impersonal option for the employment of military force. The reality is that effective enforcement involves flying over territory where fighting is occurring, and enforcing a no-fly zone means the intent to kill anything that opposes it — whether a fighter in the air or a missile system on the ground.
Damn. That made cry - just like it did the first time I remember hearing it so many years ago...
keith wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:04 pmAnd probably the horses were off to the side assuming there was stable ground there. Or maybe they had planks on top of the logs?
We have to get to the other side of this "conflict" first. Then we'll know what ramifications will come from it. What is evident is these guys are as bright as J6 insurrectionists straming their triumphs. It will be another bit of technology that will get used against them.Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:55 pm I know Russia isn't a member of the ICC (neither are we) but is there any organization that could hold them responsible for their war crimes? Are they a party to the Geneva Convention? What kind of enforcement does it provide?
I believe the song you're hearing at Christmas time is "I Believe in Father Christmas" by Greg Lake (of Emmerson, Lake and Palmer fame.) It's absolutely gorgeous and deeply cynical, but its probably the only song I look forward to hearing at Christmas time anymore. If I can dig it up on YouTube I'll drop it in the music thread.Maybenaut wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:27 pm The melody the cellist is playing is a sample of Serge Prokofiev’s “Romance,” which was part of an original musical score of a soviet-era move, Lieutenant Kije, released in 1934. Lieutenant Kije was a comedy about a non-existent officer in the Russian Imperial Army who was invented to cover up a clerical error, and hilarity ensued.
I also hear “The Troika Song” from that same movie here in the US at christmas time, but it’s not really christmas music - it takes place during a chase scene, IIRC.
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Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:04 amOff TopicI believe the song you're hearing at Christmas time is "I Believe in Father Christmas" by Greg Lake (of Emmerson, Lake and Palmer fame.) It's absolutely gorgeous and deeply cynical, but its probably the only song I look forward to hearing at Christmas time anymore. If I can dig it up on YouTube I'll drop it in the music thread.Maybenaut wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:27 pm The melody the cellist is playing is a sample of Serge Prokofiev’s “Romance,” which was part of an original musical score of a soviet-era move, Lieutenant Kije, released in 1934. Lieutenant Kije was a comedy about a non-existent officer in the Russian Imperial Army who was invented to cover up a clerical error, and hilarity ensued.
I also hear “The Troika Song” from that same movie here in the US at christmas time, but it’s not really christmas music - it takes place during a chase scene, IIRC.
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Maybenaut wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:55 amKriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:04 amOff TopicI believe the song you're hearing at Christmas time is "I Believe in Father Christmas" by Greg Lake (of Emmerson, Lake and Palmer fame.) It's absolutely gorgeous and deeply cynical, but its probably the only song I look forward to hearing at Christmas time anymore. If I can dig it up on YouTube I'll drop it in the music thread.Maybenaut wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:27 pm The melody the cellist is playing is a sample of Serge Prokofiev’s “Romance,” which was part of an original musical score of a soviet-era move, Lieutenant Kije, released in 1934. Lieutenant Kije was a comedy about a non-existent officer in the Russian Imperial Army who was invented to cover up a clerical error, and hilarity ensued.
I also hear “The Troika Song” from that same movie here in the US at christmas time, but it’s not really christmas music - it takes place during a chase scene, IIRC.
Off TopicNo, I’m hearing Prokofiev’s Troika Song.
Kriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:15 amMaybenaut wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:55 amKriselda Gray wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:04 amOff TopicI believe the song you're hearing at Christmas time is "I Believe in Father Christmas" by Greg Lake (of Emmerson, Lake and Palmer fame.) It's absolutely gorgeous and deeply cynical, but its probably the only song I look forward to hearing at Christmas time anymore. If I can dig it up on YouTube I'll drop it in the music thread.Off TopicNo, I’m hearing Prokofiev’s Troika Song.
Off TopicYes, thats the music Lake built "I Believe in Father Christmas" around, much like how Sting built "Russians" around Prokofiev’s "Romance". I posted Father Christmas in Music-free-for-all
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