One of those clues: A list of keywords that the select committee recently asked John EASTMAN to prioritize when combing through his emails. It includes 14 GOP lawmakers + House/Senate domains.
https://politico.com/news/2022/03/02/ja ... p-00012960
January 6 Select Committee
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https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/0 ... UAGfhT9aFQ
The Jan. 6 select committee says its evidence has shown that then-President Donald Trump and his campaign tried to illegally obstruct Congress’ counting of electoral votes and “engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States.”
In a major release of its findings, filed in federal court late Wednesday, the committee suggested its evidence supported findings that Trump himself violated multiple laws by attempting to prevent Congress from certifying his defeat.
“The Select Committee also has a good-faith basis for concluding that the President and members of his Campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States,” the committee wrote in a filing submitted in U.S. District Court in the Central District of California.
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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
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Jan. 6 Committee Lays Out Potential Criminal Charges Against Trump
In a court filing, the panel said there was enough evidence to suggest that the former president might have engaged in a criminal conspiracy as he fought to remain in office.
By Luke Broadwater and Alan Feuer
Published March 2, 2022
Updated March 3, 2022, 7:34 a.m. ET
WASHINGTON — The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol said on Wednesday that there was enough evidence to conclude that former President Donald J. Trump and some of his allies might have conspired to commit fraud and obstruction by misleading Americans about the outcome of the 2020 election and attempting to overturn the result.
In a court filing in a civil case in California, the committee’s lawyers for the first time laid out their theory of a potential criminal case against the former president. They said they had accumulated evidence demonstrating that Mr. Trump, the conservative lawyer John Eastman and other allies could potentially be charged with criminal violations including obstructing an official proceeding of Congress and conspiracy to defraud the American people.
The filing also said there was evidence that Mr. Trump’s repeated lies that the election had been stolen amounted to common law fraud.
The filing disclosed only limited new evidence, and the committee asked the judge in the civil case to review the relevant material behind closed doors. In asserting the potential for criminality, the committee largely relied on the extensive and detailed accounts already made public of the actions Mr. Trump and his allies took to keep him in office after his defeat.
The committee added information from its more than 550 interviews with state officials, Justice Department officials and top aides to Mr. Trump, among others.
It said, for example, that Jason Miller, Mr. Trump’s senior campaign adviser, had told the committee in a deposition that Mr. Trump had been told soon after Election Day by a campaign data expert “in pretty blunt terms” that he was going to lose, suggesting that Mr. Trump was well aware that his months of assertions about a stolen election were false. (Mr. Trump subsequently said he disagreed with the data expert’s analysis, Mr. Miller said, because he thought he could win in court.)
The evidence gathered by the committee “provides, at minimum, a good-faith basis for concluding that President Trump has violated” the obstruction count, the filing, written by Douglas N. Letter, the general counsel of the House, said, adding: “The select committee also has a good-faith basis for concluding that the president and members of his campaign engaged in a criminal conspiracy to defraud the United States.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/02/us/p ... jan-6.html
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Here’s the smoking gun email, where Eastman actually says to Pence’s lawyer that he’s aware he’s asking Pence to violate the law. “I implore you to consider on more minor violation [of the electoral count act]”
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In a world that wasn't upside down, it seems like that would get Eastman prosecuted. Or at least his law license pulled. Can we get a censure? A reprimand? How about a heartfelt talk about not doing that again?
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So the January 6th committee believes laws were broken. They cannot indict Trump or anyone else. They can refer their findings to the DOJ of course but nothing compels them to act. What can or would a federal judge do? If you had Congress and a federal judge both saying yeah laws were broken it is difficult to imagine the DOJ would do nothing.
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Is it though?Reality Check wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:28 pm So the January 6th committee believes laws were broken. They cannot indict Trump or anyone else. They can refer their findings to the DOJ of course but nothing compels them to act. What can or would a federal judge do? If you had Congress and a federal judge both saying yeah laws were broken it is difficult to imagine the DOJ would do nothing.
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
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Some people have blown off the J6 committee, and the DOJ says they're moving at deliberate speed. Yet not everyone has been indicted.
So predicting indictments resulting from the J6 committee's recommendations is not a sure bet.
So predicting indictments resulting from the J6 committee's recommendations is not a sure bet.
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Perhaps we can get Senator Collins to help us out here.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:38 am How about a heartfelt talk about not doing that again?
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One more minor violation...
One more...
Uh...
What were the other ones you had already done, Mr Pense?
One more...
Uh...
What were the other ones you had already done, Mr Pense?
Hic sunt dracones
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Eastman's point was that Congress' handling of the objections to Arizona's votes already had violated the Electoral Count Act, so what's just one more "relatively minor" violation of it ... by calling for unprecedented 10-day adjournment?
Nb.: Eastman sent his email at 9:44 pm MST, which is 11:45 pm EST. On January 6. After the day's insurrection, it was nearing midnight and Eastman was still pushing his nonsense.
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Kimberly gets a subpoena today.
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fer completness, the subpoena:
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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
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THREAD: as promised, here is my breakdown of the 1/6 committee filing asserting that donald trump and John Eastman violated federal criminal law. 1/
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Mike D. is livestreaming his reading of the Eastman filing.
Mike D. suggests, if the repeached Florida Man's tweets during the insurrection were made with him knowing the insurrectionists were insurrecting, it might be criminal incitement:
Mike D. suggests, if the repeached Florida Man's tweets during the insurrection were made with him knowing the insurrectionists were insurrecting, it might be criminal incitement:
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Ah, Bach!
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Is that you, Radar?
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I'm not on Twitter so I'm having trouble reading Mike D's thread but I would really love to. Anyone know how to find and/or post one of those thread unroll things?
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Are you getting stuck at the "see what's happening" login dialog box?
If that's the problem, you can just click "sign up" then x out of the sign-up dialog.. then you'll be able to continue reading.
If that's the problem, you can just click "sign up" then x out of the sign-up dialog.. then you'll be able to continue reading.
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Ha.
And now one of the Brandenburg concertos is stuck in my head.
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Hubby's and my solution to eliminating an earworm is to suggest a song substitute, usually "Dead Puppies Aren't Much Fun".northland10 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:22 am
Ha.
And now one of the Brandenburg concertos is stuck in my head.
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