Russia Invades Ukraine
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The Russians are shelling an operating nuclear power plant!
Beyond stupid.
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Ukraine Foreign Minister.
Dmytro Kuleba @DmytroKuleba 49m
Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Fire has already broke out. If it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chornobyl! Russians must IMMEDIATELY cease the fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone!
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I guess this means Russia's generals are sufficiently behind Putin that they are willing to shell a nuclear plant. I was kinda hoping they were on the fence, since so little is coming out about their stance... but this suggests they are beyond hope.
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Fu*king Ian Miles Cheong, Malaysian RT & Rebel News contributor, says "nothing to see here".
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No link yet, but MSNBC saying fire is outside the nuclear plant.
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I see nothing happening at all in that videoraison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:56 pm Well this seems bad.
Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
Dmytro Kuleba @DmytroKuleba wrote: Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Fire has already broke out. If it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chornobyl! Russians must IMMEDIATELY cease the fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone!
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There's a fire on the right, mostly obscured by a small building.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-n ... 4/?rpc=401&
I think about half of Ukraine's electricity comes from nuclear reactors. Where will the people get their heating and electricity from if the reactors, or some of them, are shut down? That, I guess, is part of Putin's plan, such as it is.WASHINGTON, March 3 (Reuters) - U.S. Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said on Thursday the reactors at Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station "are protected by robust containment structures and reactors are being safely shut down".
Granholm said on Twitter she had just spoken with Ukraine's energy minister about the situation at the plant, where a fire broke out during fighting between Russian and Ukrainian forces.
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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It was a livestream, the action died out it appears, thankfully. Here’s what it looked like earlier.keith wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 9:49 pmI see nothing happening at all in that videoraison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:56 pm Well this seems bad.
Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine
https://twitter.com/AlisonR61423986/sta ... 59009?s=20Dmytro Kuleba @DmytroKuleba wrote: Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Fire has already broke out. If it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chornobyl! Russians must IMMEDIATELY cease the fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone!
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Natasha Bertrand
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Secretary Blinken has arrived here at NATO HQ for meetings with
@jensstoltenberg
and NATO foreign ministers to discuss the war in Ukraine. Later he’ll meet with E.U. Ministers and European Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen.
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Secretary Blinken has arrived here at NATO HQ for meetings with
@jensstoltenberg
and NATO foreign ministers to discuss the war in Ukraine. Later he’ll meet with E.U. Ministers and European Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen.
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I found this thread informative about the attack on the nuclear power plant.
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An interesting analysis of Russian army logistics and the problems in invading Ukraine.
The interesting part is that it was written last November.
https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feedi ... logistics/
The interesting part is that it was written last November.
https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feedi ... logistics/
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Oops.
Alexander S. Vindman @AVindman wrote: Reports of a significant armor engagement in a suburb of Kyiv, …between Russian forces. Friendly fire restulted in the loss of 9 tanks and 4 infantry fighting vehicles.
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Damn. Now that is some weapons grade snark.
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ian bremmer
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2h
51% of people in sweden—which hasn’t been in a war since 1814—now in favor of joining nato.
first time a majority has responded in favor
thanks to putin
-demoskop/aftonbladet poll
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51% of people in sweden—which hasn’t been in a war since 1814—now in favor of joining nato.
first time a majority has responded in favor
thanks to putin
-demoskop/aftonbladet poll
“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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This labelled google maps image from the New York Times helps understand the orientation of what happened at the reactor site. It seems there was a firefight directed at an ancillary building (some sources are calling it a training facility) adjacent to the reactor complex proper. The surveillance camera whose images we saw would be pointed downward along the road in front of it with the fire going right to left across that road.
Here's the building the next morning:
Here's the building the next morning:
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